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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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Uh, what’s a “Spigitti Monster”?
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This truly takes great meatballs, as the first entry said. You, my friend, are an inspiration to all Pastafarians. So what if the signs sucked? You went out there and preached for our Holy Lord. Great job, Cap’n Awesome. May you be Touched By His Noodly Appendage throughout your life.
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-Cap’n Awesome-Back off my turff! I cliamed this joint first so there’ll be no whore’n for you! Now stop trying to noodle-in on my gig! :
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I have some suggestions. Your heart is in the right place but you need to work on the details. The sign is fine it does not have to be fancy, it got the point across, and I am not going to nit pick on timing issues. I have a lot of experience as a member of the MSU chapter. There is power in numbers, I know you at least had yourself and the cameraman, but bringing a couple of people into it makes you look less like the town crazy. A huge problem I have seen people have is the difference between talking and harassing. I know that sounds harass but let me explain. Talk to those that wish to and don’t push it on others. I push pamphlets pretty hard because they can ignore it after they leave. I understand that I am ranting but I just see a lot of common mistakes.
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Ummmm…ok, Colleen, the point was to look like a town crazy. Are you expecting me to set up a both and politely speak the advantages of our noodly lord and savior?
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You truly have been touched by his noodly appendage. You make us all proud.
RAmen!
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Awwww, come on Brian, we just like a good argument is all. Don’t go away. I actually agree with most of what you said, I’ve said it myself. I don’t have any problem with people having religion,I don’t care what religion you are. I don’t provoke people (usualy)
The things I hate are when the fundies or born agains get up in my face or try to shove thier stuff on me or insult me first or think their better than everyone else, then I insult them to my hearts content. I also hate religion trying to pose as science, which is why I came here in the first place.That being said, please don’t deprive yourself of this wonderful site. You were very polite and intelligent. A good conversationalist.
RAmen.
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Cap’n Awesome is the man who introduced me to The Flying Spaghetti Monster. So I was inspired to make this video:
If that didn’t work I E-mailed Bobby the link for the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHHgY7rRu5o
RAmen
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BTC: The point I was making with the quote was that while I hear both christians and muslims decry the fundies in their ranks as unrepresentative of their religion they rarely actively try to counter them, even on an intellectual level. Or at least, not with with the same passion as the fundies espouse their particular brand of hate. Some of this is to do with the tolerance, at least in the West, to differing ideas, but there must come a point where we must stand up and say that we can no longer tolerate the intolerable as our very tolerance is being used against us. I believe that there is a quote by a US christian fundamentalist where he uses our tolerance as an apparent winning debating point in an argument with opponents as I have heard many radical muslims in the UK say that they will use our tolerance and values as a means to defeats us, implying that we are too weak to fight for what we really want as a society and so radical islam will win more by default rather than any need for actual battle. There is an element of truth in this as many in the West simply want to get on with their lives without bother and are likely to see the danger too late. Much as happened with Germany in the thirties where the memories of the horrors of WWI was still uppermost in many peoples thoughts and none wanted to believe that it could happen again even though all the signs where there.
Unfortunately, this often means that the fundies voice is the one heard the loudest as is sadly is often the case nowadays and especially the one heard loudest and clearest by the disaffected and simple minded and which they latch on to. Witness the number of societies’ malcontents and disenfranchised who have been recruited, such as the so called shoe bomber. We see a certain similarity with the type of activists recruited by many racist groups such as the BNP in the UK. Of course, in many ways, it is not the brainwashed activist we need to counter so much as the brain washers who really want political power more than anything and who take advantage of and recruit the disaffected. Often by giving them a sense of belonging or community while also giving them an apparent sense of certainty in our ever changing world. In fact, much like religion in general has done over the millennia.
Thus by default, their actions are often allowed to be seen as the norm for their belief system. Take the example of the bombing of abortion clinics or the murder of those who work at such. Now I know plenty of moderate catholics who disagree with abortion and campaign politically against it and who don’t believe that the aforementioned actions of the fundies are in the least representative of christian teaching. But rarely do I hear them actively denouncing these actions, or when I do it is nearly always accompanied with excuses along the lines of ‘I don’t agree but with their actions I can understand their anger’ or similar statements. Similarly, with regards to muslims, I have heard many decry suicide bombings when asked to comment, but also nearly always with the proviso that they can understand what drove them to it. Usually with some excuse about societal alienation or foreign policy decisions by our governments. Therefore, if the moderate believers won’t take the fundies to task it is left to the rest of us. Unfortunately, for the moderate believers, the only real way to do that is to point out what we see as the nonsensical basis of all their belief systems not being based on evidence but only faith and so any actions by the fundies have no basis of any kind. After all, if the two faiths mentioned are really as peaceful at their core as the moderates espouse it shouldn’t be too hard for them to counter the fundies. Though when you consider the contradictions at the very core of their holy books it is perhaps understandable that anyone can twist them to any end thus the only answer we non believers can see is to point out how utterly ridiculous and irrational is the basis of their beliefs and thus, so are many of the actions carried out in their religion’s name. Of course I have used the extremes in the above post but that often only equates to the degree of immeduate damage as I consider all fundies dangerous to our world, whatever their shade.
P.S. Brian, I agree with you, for if we can’t discuss things rationally, even the irrational :) then we are no better than fundies ourselves.
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Yeah, at least 80% (not basing this on research, just guestimating by my own opinion) of large religious groups are moderates, and the majority of them are really nice, it’s just the radicals that get heard more often cause they have the loudest voices.
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Let the Flying Spaghetti Monster bless his piraty clad preachers and all those thst convert. May his noodly appendage bless you all.
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Here’s the thing: the LDS Church and the Jehova’s Witnesses have the largest organized armies of missionaries in the world. Convert the Heads of each religion to the Gospel of the FSM, and you will have the largest religion in the world… which is what He intended.
RAmen
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im sure this man meant well but he is clearly breaking the first “I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts”
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Lol alex. well i worship spagetti, but the meatballs have got to go
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Go man go! Keep spreading his noodly goodness! RAmen.
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@John Phillips Nov 23rd, 2006 at 12:45 am
RAmen John.. RAmen
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Is this University of Vermont????
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OK, my show was a rerun so I added another chapter,enjoy.
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Not the University of Vermont. Try again!
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wow,cap’n you made the # 69 th post!-be proud.
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outstanding!
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@Bartholomew:
Actually, the Kansas School Board’s decision to redefine science had everything to do with the teaching of ID. They replaced the good science of Methodological Naturalism (that is, finding naturalistic explanations for observed phenomena) with something that was not science at all (as allowing supernatural explanations for observed phenomena falls outside the bounds of science). Moreover, it is common knowledge that the Kansas School Board was influenced by the Discovery Institute with regards to its science standards, and its changes to the curriculum were specifically designed to challenge evolutionary theory.
And as for the Dover case, while it may not have any immediate impact beyond that particular school district, it *has* established a legal precedent, which will presumably make things much easier for other challenges to the teaching of ID as “science.”
But of course, we Pastafarians *want* alternative theories discussed in the classroom. We’re just wondering why the Discovery Institute and its fellows still haven’t moved to embrace our eminently-logical and empirically-verifiable arguments. We can offer so much to bolster their claims, yet they continue to ignore us in favor of their zombified (and most assuredly NOT al dente) Savior. A pity.
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listen, Christianity is what this country was founded on, if you dont like it go live with the Budists or something
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Strange, I don’t remember your god being specifically mentioned in the US Constitution. In fact if I recall correctly, there are a number of quotes by the founding fathers that promote a secular society or outright denounce religion. I’ll have to track those down sometime.
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Here we go: http://monotheism.us/
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Interesting how our early leaders were outright against religious influence in the government.
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@jesus freak
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america is not a christian nation you dumbass. typical for you being a jesus freak to say that. if it were, then our nation would suck.
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what do you got against buddhists (you spelled it wrong you dumbass, and in this case that is not a typo). what, has your loving religion tought you to hate other religions.
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how much time do you spend with jesus christ? maybe you should ask him out.
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Well yeah, considering the state it’s helped the country get into, the main thing being deviding it so badly.
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so true
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-’Christianity is what this country was founded on’-No,no,no, the europeans that came to North America because they wanted religious freedom from fundie nut jobs like you who enjoyed burning people at the stake if they tried to express their own ‘different’ belifes.
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Jesus Freak writes:
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“listen, Christianity is what this country was founded on, if you dont like it go live with the Budists or something”
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Please spare me. The US was founded on commerce. The first explorers/colonists in the US were financial ventures. Some came later for religious freedom (Freedom of their own religion, mind you. They had no problem repressing the religions of others.), however, most immigrants came to the US for economic reasons.
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Take five minutes and learn some facts before you try and spread that shit here.
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OEJ, Ship’s Navigator
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Jesus Freak writes:
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“listen, Christianity is what this country was founded on, if you dont like it go live with the Budists or something”
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Please spare me. The US was founded on commerce. The first explorers/colonists in the US were financial ventures. Some came later for religious freedom (Freedom of their own religion, mind you. They had no problem repressing the religions of others.), however, most immigrants came to the US for economic reasons.
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Take five minutes and learn some facts before you try and spread that shit here.
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OEJ, Ship’s Navigator.
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@Penne
Actually, you have that backwards. Some of the original settlers like the Pilgrims were Protestant fundamentalists that would make most modern fundies cream their pants in envy.
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Here is a good site that tells of some of the MANY religions that came to the new world,but the first religions, of course, belonged to the Native Americans who were here long before any of them. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel02.html
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Here is a good site that tells of some of the MANY religions that came to the new world,but the first religions, of course, belonged to the Native Americans who were here long before any of them. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel02.html .
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-Just Guess,they also wanted to get away from persecution by the establishments like the Church of England.And I think it was the Puritianswho were fundies and the Quakers were fairly peaceful,dance’n round,eat’n oatmeal and such. http://www.uncp.edu/home/canada/work/allam/16071783/religion.htm
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We at the first fundamentalist Pastafarian Church of the North Woods will be taking to the street in full Pirate gear as Cap’t Awsome has done. He is one mighty an stronh and will be blessed many fold by His noodly appendages.
Johnny Corvette
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I thought I recognized that building. Was that infront of the Focus on the Family Education Center in Colorado Springs? If so that guys got a lot of guts! They are real Fundi nutcases in there.
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-chapter 6 online
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I’m going to wait till I get a grouup together to go spreading the word, or get to college, I’m kinda nervous about going alone out here.
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I have all my pamphlets ready for a roll out on campus tomorrow. I had decided to wait til the end of semester (term) exams, as I personally know how distracting the FSM site/cause can be. Also nearly everyone turns up to celebrate.
It has been a frustrating wait, but I felt it was the right thing to do so as to attract the most attention and conversions. I intend to save the following, (after this one) roll out on campus for orientation week next year.
RAmen
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Thumb tacks! Must remember to buy more thumb tacks in the morn.
RAmen
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Thumbtacks? Why?
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LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Anna
To post (fix..um attach) the pamphlets to boards ect. It did not matter anyway, they went so fast I didn’t have a chance to actually pin them up anywhere.
@Bill
Hello Bill. Did you lose something?
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@Bill
The ability to think for yourself, maybe?
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“they went so fast I didn’t have a chance to actually pin them up anywhere.”
“I feel good…. doodle oodle oodle ooo, I feel fine….”
RAmen
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Yall need straight jackets and padded walls. Maybe you should also join the military. Go over and ask the terrorists if they beleve (spelled wrong, I know) in the so called FSM.
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Bill
I have never heard of terrorists who believe in the FSM (they wouldn’t be aloud to terrorise anyone) but there are plenty of terrorist groups who believe in god. For example your beloved president who decided that Iraq needed to be bombed because god told him to do it. The civillians who were bombed by the US were no doubt terrified by this unjustified attack and so it was TERRORISM thats right the US+UK army are terrorists.
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You are one. So is the “fsm”
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Bill how the fuck does the FSM terrify anyone unless you happened to be scared of a sense of humour, something that truly is terrifying is your lack of intelligence.
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