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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
wow…u guys truly are morons…what a productive use of ur allotted time…
“what a productive use of ur allotted time…”
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Ahhh, like posting a stupid comment on a website when you know everyone will laugh at your horrible spelling and unbridled arrogance.
That man has truly been touched by His Noodly Appendage… as for ‘mr frodo’ …
“u can get ur sadly consorvitive rere back too the land of bad speeling from witch u came”
That is all I have to say to you.
Cap ‘n you mistake what I was saying. I wasn’t claiming that anyone was unintelligent, just we can use our intelligence without attacking those who have done no harm. I know several Christians who keep their beliefs to themselves, who also think the whole idea of teaching ID in science class is mentally deficient. If you argue just as dogmatically as they do, and insult their beliefs without provocation, then you are no better than they are. If they come here and start shit…well they’re fair game…
BTC: The very existence of a competing belief system is considered an insult and an attack on their beliefs by significant numbers of believers. So on that basis, using your logic, this site shouldn’t exist as many believers with other belief systems would consider this site an attack on their beliefs. As witnessed by the many inane posts by such on this section of the site. Part of the problem is the very legitimacy that your moderate good quiet christians give the fundies by not standing up and being counted as being more representative of their belief system.
As the saying goes;
The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Author: Edmund Burke
Wait wait wait. Are you saying that I’m unintelligent or not. Because you say that that isn’t what you are saying in your first statement, and then go on to say that intelligent designers are mentally deficient, however I am no better then they are if I attack their beliefs without “provocation”
I call total and utter bullshit on all of that. Beliefs deserve to be attacked when they are stupid. Would you say that it is ok to let someone have Nazi beliefs or racist beliefs, as long as they aren’t fitting your definition of what is ‘harming’ a society? Of course not. Do you feel that it is important for us to respect adults who believe in Santa Claus? Of course not.
What you get with Christians and Muslims, (and to a slightly lesser extent, Buddhists, Hindus and Jews) is a combination of both of those. The idea that it automatically merits my respect, or even merits my non-mockery of it, simply for being a belief, is a rediculous and frankly dangerous idea. As dangerous as some beliefs are, it is equally dangerous to believe that they should be left alone simply because someone holds to them.
Or do you have another reason for respecting theistic belief?
Brian is a theist (stated continuously in his posts) Cap’n Awesome. Still trying to work out what he is doing at our church.
RAmen for your preaching.
“I’m sure we are all intelligent enough”
Also quite fond of using the “we” as to imply speaking on behalf of us pirates.
The only reason I can see for a theist to be here is to look for intelligent conversation, not going to get that from mental fundies.
More to the point, great costume Cap’n, did you manage to show anyone the error of their ways, or did they all just cling to their old religion?
@ John Phillips: Good quote, I think it is something everyone should keep in mind, however, are you going to hold every member of a specific group accountable for those that they have no control over? Also, I don’t think what the fundamentalists are doing is inherently evil, just really ignorant. And I don’t think my Christian friends stand by while these fundamentalists do they’re work. There is probably a good damn reason that in Alberta intelligent design is not taught in schools, but believe me we have our share of fundamentalists, and I live in the bible belt of that particular province. You also put words in my mouth, you guys have every right to express you’re views on this site without being attacked, I just fail to see why you have to attack the things you do not agree with. Yes, I am a theist, but have I said anything against being an athiest? Hell no! I could care less about something like that. Good people are found regardless of creed, colour, political affiliation. I don’t belong to a church, I don’t preach my beliefs like truth, I don’t try to convert people, and I have a serious problem with organized religion because of people like the ones who post hate on here. As far as my government is concerned I am an atheist…
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@ Cap’n: In my first post I said “I’m sure we are all intelligent enough to take the high road.” No where in that des it say that you or anyone else isn’t intelligent. It could imply that… but only if you were looking for it to do that. It was never intended to be taken like that. You made an excellent choice about choosing not to take the high road. According to Sartre, people are human becomings, not human beings. You have to constantly choose who you are and take responsibility for those actions. I think he was right about that, and that is exactly what you did. I disagree with what you have to say, but I don’t think you’re stupid just because I don’t agree with your point of view.
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@ Rabbit and Nikkiee- I wasn’t aware that you had to be an atheist to belong or support the cause of the FSM. The we pronoun was directed at everyone on here because of all of the threads I have read have contained much intelligent discussion and wit. The only people clearly lacking intelligence, and I can only judge that by they’re posts, are the fundamentalists that curse while extolling the virtue of they’re tolerant religion, because God loves you. So unless I miss my mark we, the people viewing this website, are intelligent. If I offended you by the use of we I could use I, but that would sound a little smug…
-the point of this whole thing was never to slander anyone’s beliefs-Well that is a very nice idea,but I not sure you’ve been paying attention.The point of this whole site and the FSM himself is really to make fun of the idea of ID, and the notion that it should be allowed in schools to be taught as though it were fact.-Which,yes,is sort of like slandering that belife.
I was paying attention Penne…
Some are questioning why I, as a theist, would be on this site.
I don’t think this site is slandering the religion at all, just the silly notion that a belief should be taught as a science. Personally I don’t want my beliefs measured and weighed… Besides which you could not, at the present moment, prove or disprove anything… hence why they’re called beliefs, and hence why this concept works so beautifully. I may have missed the point so I copied from the F.A.Q. on this site. These are Bobby Henderson’s words, not mine.
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Q: Are you an atheist / heathen / what?
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A: I don’t have a problem with religion. What I have a problem with is religion posing as science. Teach Creationism in school, fine, but don’t teach it in a science classroom. And don’t change the definition of science so that you can teach these things. That’s retarded.
Supernatural explanations are by definition not science, so why would you teach them in a science classroom?
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Religion, itself, isn’t bad. But it isn’t necessarily good, either. There are plenty of good Christians (and Muslims, and Buddhists, and Hindus), and plenty of bad ones.
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Dogma is bad for everyone.
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And that is simply what I have been trying to argue as well.
Religion itself isn’t bad,no, but there are a lot of out-dated, and by todays standards,offencive rules and ideas in many of them, that the people on this site(me too) just don’t like . I myself have only been comming her a few weeks and already I am tired of seeing the crap these guys have to take for expressing their fustration and personal belifes and beefs with said rules and ideas. I can certainly understand if they are a little touchy when a newbie comes here and talks in a manner that makes them feel as if you are demeaning them.Now,being from Canada myself,and knowing some people from out west I know that this is just how most of you talk and you probably don’t even reilise it.But most people who come here are from different parts of the world and they know that not everybody talks the same way,even if we all speak english,so they seem to(usally) say things as plainly as possibly so no one gets the wrong idea. Except J ,some days I have no clue what that guy is talking about.
@ BrianTheCanuck
I don’t remember saying I was atheist, but you can have much better conversations with people who don’t try to ’save your soul’ because you’re not the right kind of theist, that’s why I said you couldn’t get an intelligent conversation from a fundie.
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster *bows politely* The Chinese are so special.
@ Penne: I take your point and I realize that these guys who are backing this have to put up with many ignorant people clinging to outdated ideas. I think these ideas need to be updated as well, and it was never my intnet to demean anyone, except those who come and curse, and claim to be something they are clearly not.
@ Rabbit- I never said you were an athiest… I was addressing you and Nikkiee at once, “Brian is a theist (stated continuously in his posts) Cap’n Awesome. Still trying to work out what he is doing at our church.”… and your absolutely right! You can have a much better conversation, even if it is about a touchy subject such as religion, as long as they are willing to listen to and consider your point of view. Otherwise the conversation is dogmatic. But upon rereading my first post I realize that I forgot to include that part. I apologize.
give that matey the best stripper factorie!
Why are we even arguing? We’re all on the same side here(except for Chad(or whatever his name was) if anyone remembers him and amen.com). We should be out there recruiting more people to our cause.
We argue because we like to argue, and the arguement is what recruits more to our cause. The point is to argue, or at least talk about religion in general. It is good to have faith in religion - whichever religion it may be. Just don’t allow that religion to control your life. Don’t allow that religion to dictate what is fact because religion is just theory anyway.
That looks in awful lot like the University of Northern Colorado campus. Is that correct?