Nick Jones came up with this FSM money stamp. It covers up “In God We Trust” and replaces it with “In Pasta We Trust”. I like it.
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BoingBoing had a post a while ago showing a tiny stamp to strike out the word “God” from paper money:
Which prompted Kim Moser to suggest the following FSM stamp:
Here’s what I want to know: how many people would be interested in a money stamp? We could have them made if there’s enough interest.
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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What is the Pastafarian equivalent of ganja? My vast experience in the worship of Spaghetti would tempt me to say perhaps oregano, but I don’t want to risk offending the priesthood of pasta.
As a former (all thanks to the FSM for the virtue of recidivism) Pirate and enabler of Pirates, I must say that believers in the religion of Science are particularly easy prey and hardly worthy of a healthy wholesome ransacking. Nope, it’s the deity guys who seem to rack up the booty, but the MONEY worshipers make the best target.
Now for the horrible dilemma – there’s all this money looking to buy little stamps depicting His Noodleness in all his Magnificence, and this money has not yet been sanctified by that same likeness. Would it not be best if we could pass legislation (the new Congressional sheriff in town loves legislation) modifying the currency in an appropriate fashion? That way we would not have to sully our hands by touching the root of all evil.
RAmen
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Send me a stamp, and I will leave this site forever. Seriously. Oh yeah, learn how to spell argument Ramen. Its the truth. Oh wait, you dont believe in the truth.
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Bill,
Just to clarify… the use of “RAmen” at the end of a post is a play on “Amen”. Sort of goes with the whole pasta theme.
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Oh, and why would we want you to leave? More importantly, why the hell would someone send you a stamp when those of us who don’t talk trash on the CoFSM are willing to pay for one?
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May you be guided by His Noodly Grace.
RAmen.
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EXXXXXCUSE ME! Bunch of…………..
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Bill, I have to ask… are you one half of the animated duo, Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men?
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Just reading back up this thread to the ignorant postings max-a-million and James. Please tell me that these kids are not college level students. That kind of thinking and logic wouldn’t even get them through high school (nor into high school for that matter) in Australia.
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That’s the truth Nikkiee. I can’t believe I wasted my lunch hour arguing with them. Well, I would have been bored otherwise.
RAmen.
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I’m feeling a bit sorry for myself that I missed them. I just really love (or as Mad John Kidd or Davey would say… lurrvv) their type and laughingboy is getting tediously repetitive.
RAmen
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Fookin’ lurvely, I missed all the fun. Congrats to all brothers and sisters of the sauce who fought so galantly in the name of the FSM. ‘Twas a long and bloody battle against the heretical horde from the looks of it, but you have served Him well. You have truely earned a place near the front of the evergrowing line at the beer volcano and a lapdance with the stripper of your choice.
RAmen
MJK, Orthodox Pastafarian
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@Jingles Dec 7th, 2006 at 7:27 pm
‘Bill, I have to ask… are you one half of the animated duo, Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men?’
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Yes we all know about Bill & Ben and their little potted weeeeed.
@Mad John
I couldn’t even get through the whole debate.
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Ahoy all, well this thread took some reading to catch up on! nice to have some decent abuse back on here, damn i miss the fundis who think they can convert us…
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Max – you’re great, good effort…however
“max-a-million Dec 7th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
OEJ
if you can’t see the FSM then how come there is a picture of it on the website…… idiot
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max-a-million Dec 7th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
Farseer
I don’t see why you would even put a picture up in the first place”
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Are you really sure about this? Didn’t the Pope commission his own piccy on the sistine chapel? Just how many pics of your God do you think there are? Are you saying that the Pope was wrong to do so?
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@Kevin, very entertaining…..(wait for it)…………however!
“OEJ, I’ll prove there isn’t. It’s Impossible. Thats how. Spaghetti can’t fly. Theres no such thing as monsters. And this is just a religion that some bored guy made when he was to lazy to go do something with his life one day. You prove to me that this FSM exist.
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OEJ, Have you ever even heard of the bible? Not the gospel of the flying spagetti monster. The Holy Bible. Thats my proof”
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So run this one by me again. Everyone needs to prove their chosen diety/ies exist – and you’re offering the bible as proof that only your faith is correct? is that the King James version? the old testicle? the nes one? the Gideons one in my hotel? Which language? And there’s no such thing as monsters? who many demons o you want quoted from your own set of fairy tales?
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apologies for typing. not enough grog today
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RAmen
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well…im sure you guys have thoroughly missed me, but I’m back
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and I have a little something else to say, though mostly towards “Jesus Christ” who was trying to prove to me that evolution has evidence
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@Jesus Christ (and all others who tried to prove evolution)
The “facts” you showed me mean absolutely nothing. Fossils, you’ve shown me bones of three foot tall humans with weird shaped skulls. Over time, man has…oh lets say…improved. We have better eye sight, we’re taller, we’re smarter and more civilized. Now show me the evidence of one different species changing into a completely different species. In case there are some of you that are a bit more challenged than others and try to use the lame excuse of primates mating with another species to create us, that doesn’t work. It’s like trying to mate a horse and a donkey,they create a mule, but the mule is now sterile and can never reproduce or help reproduce. So unless you want to try explaining to me that we came from animals where that doesn’t apply, like dogs, I’m not thinking so. Also, to you college attending people and you oh so clever graduates, If you’re half as smart as you’ve been making yourself, you’ll know about the simple laws of thermodynamics.These laws tell us that energy is always decreasing, mountains are becoming short and dull, our very sun is slowly going out, you get the idea. The point is, things aren’t “evolving” if anything, we’re declining in everything. Knowing that, tell me this, do you know any man who knows everything? I didn’t think so. So in other words, you’re saying that you trust the hypothetical guesses given to us by some heap of metal with elctricity run through it? (for those of you who might be too stupid to know what I’m talking about…computers)Humans are imperfect by nature, therfore, it is virtually impossible for us to ever design or create something that is perfect.
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@james
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i gave you evidence of evolution and you just say it’s all fake. the problem is that i’ll give evidence that profesionals of science have approved of, and you’ll just say it’s fake. and the 2nd second law of thermodynamics does not disprove evolution at all. the point is you’ll never seem to understand evolution. evolution has evidence, you just don’t accept it. the scientific community has accepted evolution because it can be tested, makes a hypothesis, and it does explain our actual origins. just because we won’t find every transitional fossil does not mean evolution is false. the fact we have transitional fossils shows that evolution has happened. why are simple science facts so hard to accept.
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this is the lord jesus christ speaking. listen to my words of wisdom, “thou shalt not resort to stupidity. just because thou don’t like evolution doth not make it false. also, thou shall meet thy friend the flying spaghetti monster. if thou obey thy FSM, you will have beer volcanoes and strippers. what’s better than that”
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@James
The veryin thing that you were describing was evolution. HUMANS IMPROVING. We as a species evolve to increase our chances of survivability in our environment. Oh and for everyone we didn’t evolve from apes. Apes and humans share a common ancestory. (Homo Hablis) Chimpanzee DNA matches human DNA by 96.6% or more. There is a very small difference, but the difference makes all the difference. Wow that was cool. Anyway that small bit of DNA where we differ controls our brain development, looks, behavior, and much, much more. Humans have evolved. There is proof that snakes once had legs. Over time the snakes adapted to better suit there environment. A skeleton of a snake still has small, tiny appendages from which its legs were located. The snake didn’t lose its legs because of disuse, but rather because the legless shape better increased its chances of survivabilty for the species. These changes are not instantaneous. There is also proof that humans, or Homo Sapien Sapiens, have evolved in the last 40 years. Kids today have better use of their thumb than their older parents or grandparents. Evolution is true, but who is to say God didn’t have a hand in the evolution of humans. God is supposedly very powerful he would certainly be capable of making humans evolve. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN A FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER. The thought of a God like that is absurd, even childish. I do not want to bash your religion too much, but your god was created from the whimsical ideas of a never-had-a-girlfriend, lives in his parents basement, hasn’t ever been to a party or social event, loser, smart, twenty-five year old boy. A twenty-five year old is hardly well versed enough to create a legitamite god. Don’t throw the 10 million followers thing at me because I already know. Those ten million followers are crazy for thinking A flying Carbohydrate created the world. Satire I get it you don’t need to refresh my memory.
Amen
Amen
-Dark Knight
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Welcome back, James.
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So, fossil evidence does not convince you? Fair enough. I won’t debate that with you. I’m am neither a biologist nor paleontologist.
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I will address your thermodynamics statement. Creationists love to throw this one out, but it only demonstrates a lack of understanding of the laws of thermodynamics
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1st law: “The increase in the internal energy of a thermodynamic system is equal to the amount of heat energy added to the system minus the work done by the system on the surroundings.”
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2nd law: “The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium.”
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There are others, but these are the two that apply to this discussion.
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You write, “These laws tell us that energy is always decreasing, mountains are becoming short and dull, our very sun is slowly going out, you get the idea.”
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Energy is not decreasing. It is becoming more dispersed. It is an important distinction.
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The laws of thermodynamics apply to closed systems. The Earth is not a closed system. Energy from the Sun is constantly added.
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Some mountains are becoming shorter through erosion. Others are growing. http://www.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/exhibits/journeys/english/mountain_2_1a.html
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None of this refutes the possibility of life evolving naturally in a localized system, so what is your point?
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@Jesus Christ…
FSM came over yesterday and fondled me. Oh, make a beleiver out of me. Amen
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Caped Crusader,
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“A twenty-five year old is hardly well versed enough to create a legitamite god.”
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How old do you have to be?
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Joseph Smith was 24 when he published his revelation that lead to the founding of Mormonism. Of course, I suppose you could argue that he didn’t create a new god, but just revised Him a bit.
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OEJ
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A 25 year old loser created a religion. That is a joke.
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@caped crusader
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i wasn’t saying the FSM was real. i was just showing some satire. i’m not trying to convince anyone that the FSM exist. i just want people to open their eyes and accept evolution. for the best part, if you’re religious, there’s something called theistic evolution. that’s basically just saying that evolution is true (which it is) and saying that maybe it was god that was responsible for it. i know that you accept, but people like james don’t seem to get evolution.
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MONSTER POST
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“…was trying to prove to me that evolution has evidence”
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Yep. It does.
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Observed on the micro scale, with viral and bacterial resistance to antibodies.
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Now, this should be satisfactory, as when you get right down to it, macro and micro evolution are the same mechanism, but here is some other stuff.
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We effectively have a complete evolutionary record for the horse including transitory fossils, which kinda helps support macro.
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On top of that, we have WITHIN HUMAN EXISTANCE the splitting of one species into two or more that cannot interbreed. This is, quite simply, the domestication of the canine. If you have ever seen a chihuaha try to mount a great dane, or the reverse, you’ll realise it doesn’t work. They cannot interbreed without technological assistance.
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To someone such as myself, without a strong background in the clinical definitions of species, that seems satisfactory.
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We compare this to the two most common ideas put forward by, let us say, the more literal variety of the faithful;
ID and Creationism.
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Okay, let us argue creationism first. It is nice and easy to disprove.
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Creationists argue for either a 6000 or 12000 year old earth, which aside from contradicting a large amount of fossil evidence also would require the rewriting of some fundamental laws of physics.
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You see, during my university studies, I have had the good fortune of getting a part time job operating a rather large mass spectrometer.
We use it to analyse the ratios of uranium isotopes to their lead decay (or thorium-lead ratios) products in a variety of minerals, primarily zircons. By comparing the various ratios, it is possible to form a plot that directly shows the age of the rocks.
I personally have dated rocks well over a billion years old.
Colleagues have dated 4 billion year old rocks (nearly the age of the Earth).
There are examples of the machine being used to date rocks almost 7 billion years old (meteorites in case you were wondering)
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So, either the creationists are wrong, and the universe is AT least 7 billion years old (without resorting to any branch of science with even the least controversy), or somehow, the decay rates for various isotopes of Uranium and Thorium have all changed, AT EXACTLY THE SAME RATIO to the current levels, when all the observations and theory we have indicate that is impossible.
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The timeframe of creationism is wrong. This leads to the assumption that the theory is wrong. In addition, the evidence of the fossil record, would tend towards disproving the creationistic view point. Considering the high regard with which these are held in the scientific community, I would think there is good reason to doubt creationism.
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Then we get to ID. Now, we have to use a philosophical argument here, because that is the only differentiation between evolution and ID; the untestable extra variable.
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From Occam’s razor alone, we would disregard the theory, assuming they where equally valid (they are not, as you can make verifiable predictions with evolution, you cannot with ID), that is more complicated. ID relies on the evolutionary mechanism, with a divine escape clause tacked on.
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Even if it somehow passed this, we would still have the question of why.
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What sort of loving god would create a strain of tuberculosis that is resitant to antibiotics, then allow it to infect and kill pious innocents?
It happens in Russia.
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What sort of just god allows an incurable HIV virus to be passed from a raped mother to her unborn child?
It happens in Darfur.
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What would be the motivation of any other being that might decide to play with all evolution on earth, from the microbial to the mammalian? What would possess them to waste billions of years doing it? HOW do they do it?
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Until you can DEFINATIVELY answer those questions, Intelligent Design is a pointless theory, as we have a better than can explain the evidence in the testable domain.
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Now lets see how many posts came while I wrote that.
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“A 25 year old loser created a religion. That is a joke. ”
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Aren’t they all? Why single out CoFSM?
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OEJ
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Not all religions are a joke. Most religions have logical reason and some proof supporting them. FSM does not. There is no proof that FSM ever exsisted. There is proof that Jesus could have exsisted. There is also proof that stories in the Bible are true. That is why COFSM is a joke. The religion has been around for one year and is hardly credible.
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TO OEJ
I’m back, so shall we pick up from where we left off.
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Hang on, hang on, hang on, Caped Crusader.
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‘There is proof that Jesus could have exsisted. There is also proof that stories in the Bible are true.’
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Yes. And there’s very good proof that pasta exists and that there used to be more pirates (proper pirates, mind) than there are today. Christianity is not Jesusianity. The existence of Jesus is not the point – the idea that he was The Christ, God Incarnate, is. There’s no more proof of that than there is of spaghetti existing as a flying, usually invisible, omnipotent FSM.
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Pastafarianism has very similar logic to the ‘most religions’ you’re on about. It has a few logical(ish) links to the real world and then an internal logic of its own – as well as a lot of stuff that is not logic, but that looks a bit like it if you are very credulous, predisposed to believe, or a bit dense.
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First of all God does not temp man, satan does. It also says in 1 corinthians 10:13 that, “there hath no tempation taken you but such as is common to man: but god is faithful, who will not suffer you to temptationalso make a way to escape that ye may be able to bear it.”
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Heya Max!
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Sure. What would you like to discuss?
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OEJ
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Max,
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Going with the old, Satan is the serpent argument? Please show me the relevent biblical passage which supports that the serpent in the garden of Eden was Satan. The bible only mentions a serpent.
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Either way it does not matter. If god is the creator of all, then he created both the serpent and Satan. Either way, God is the ultimate origin of the temptation in Genesis.
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I don’t follow the relevence of 1 Cor 10:13 to the discussion. Could you exlpain?
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Well said as always, J.
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“Not all religions are a joke. Most religions have logical reason and some proof supporting them. FSM does not. There is no proof that FSM ever exsisted. There is proof that Jesus could have exsisted. There is also proof that stories in the Bible are true. That is why COFSM is a joke. The religion has been around for one year and is hardly credible.”
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whoa there me hearties! some proof supporting them? where? i’ve missed it. please don’t say the collected fairy tales of hundreds of years worth of loonies rewritten by churches for their own ends (yes i do mean the bible) and what proof the stories are true? have you actually read the thing? it could have written by a spaced out tripping hippy for the coherence involved. So which bits are true? eden? the flood? all the animals going 2 by 2? the smiting of tribes for no other crime than living where the chosen few were promised by a leader that heard voices? do you hear the voices? if so i believe lithium helps….
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1 cor. explains how when the devil temps you God gives you a way out of it, he only allows tempations that you can handle.
The reason the allows tempation is becuase he is testing us to see if we are truely love him
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@ J
I guess I can’t proove that Jesus was the son of God, but evidence of Gods work have been recorded. The Egyptians have records of plagues written on tomb walls. This could be a coincidence but they also wrote that the nile turned red. Gee thats hard to explain. Why would they write that unless it was true. And archaeologists have found chariots and military equipment at the bottom of the sea. A sign that the water did part. Sure spaghetti exsists but it doesn’t fly, have eyes, or create an entire world full of thousands of different species. Oh and who is this Wench Nikkiee person. Why are you judging James and Max-a-Million. Max-a-Million may not be too smart, but James usually has intelligent conversations pieces. They are smart and Australian people aren’t too bright either. Have any constructive criticism for me. Geez Australian loser…
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hang on then. lets see if i’ve got this straight.
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God allows satan to tempt us in the first place, but only enough so that we have a chance of pasing his “test”
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The object of this test is to see if we love him enough
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Since God is omniscient he must already know the answer and what we will do. Yet he torments us nonetheless.
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Therefore we are tormented in order to find an answer he already knows but won’t share! the sadistic bastard…
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if this is his attitude then he can get stuffed, tormenting otherwise innocent people for his pleasure is sick.
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@Spider
You seem to be joining this conversation too late to really understand whats going on. There is proof that Biblical accounts are historically accurate. Ask James about it he seems to know more about the Bible and has a stronger opinion about the subject than anyone on here.
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@ max-a-million – I’m not saying this just to start an argument. You must know that I do not love Jesus. It is irrelevant if He is testing me to see if I truly love Him because I just don’t. I guess I flunk the test. That’s ok with mebecause I’m studying for tests of my own which I believe, are actually testing the same thing under a more holistic, inclusive and generic classification. The tests I care about determine whether or not I’m a good person, and to what degree am I connected spiritually with the cosmos. I don’t care about your God or your tests. I’m not demanding that you agree with my philosophy, so why are you demanding that I agree, and try to measure up to, yours?
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I happily accept various religious work document histoical facts. There was a flood event for example, it is documented in texts across Asia and Europe. there were events interpreted as plagues, the wars documented undoubtedly happened.
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What i don’t accept is the leap from there to the fact that “God did it” are you also saying that God is responsible for Krakatoa, the boxing day tsunami, australian bush fires, the depletion of the ozone, or WW2? i prefer to examine the facts and try to come up with a working theory. not simply fill in the blanks and say “well, i don’t know. must have been god”
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Jingles, that was fantastic. Well said.
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Batman:
“A twenty-five year old is hardly well versed enough to create a legitamite god. Don’t throw the 10 million followers thing at me because I already know. Those ten million followers are crazy for thinking A flying Carbohydrate created the world. Satire I get it you don’t need to refresh my memory.”
Two things,
a.) How old do you have to be to create a religion? Did Martin Luther set the precedent at 35 years old? Considering he wrote the 95 thesis at 35 and changed the face of Christianity (”Protesting” the Catholic Church and spawning and unknown number of Protestant denominations, some of which dance with freaking rattlesnakes).
b.) Why would you point out that you know this is all satire after you get done lambasting the people here for believing this? Are you pulling a chain or two, or do you not understand the idea of contradiction?
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maxy,
I’m happy to see that you’re starting to use capitalization and punctuation to a certain extent. They must be actually teaching you something at Howarts. Other than that, how the hell does your random Corinthians apply to anything in this thread, and why did you throw it out there?
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@Jingles
What sort of God would create TB or HIV etc.?? – Hey, maybe they were good organisms at one point but were swayed by Satan to become sinners. Sinful micro- organisms that need to repent (10 cc of Hail Mary?). Any Christian Scientists out there that can verify that one?
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Max,
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“The reason the [sic] allows tempation is becuase he is testing us to see if we are truely love him”
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Is God an insecure 13 year old school girl, passing notes, “Do you like me? Circle yes or no”? Seriously, why would God need to test us to know? He’s God!
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I have a son. I know he loves me. I don’t need to test him. If I can figure this out, why can’t God?
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OEJ
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If they were well behaved micro-organisms that sinned does that mean they evolved? is evolution satanic? this needs investigating…
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i think i know where the devil is, i think he’s down in georgia looking for a soul to steal
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hey caped you still there? don’t leave we’re having fun! please condemn me some more… it’s freezing here could you and your almighty arrange a bit of fire and brimstone?
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@ Spider
You will be happy to know that I don’t really believe in God, but I more or less support the idea. I know that people don’t like speaking of FSM’s creator in such a harsh manner. I do see now that age doesn’t matter when creating a religion, but I do think it is a factor. FSM is a joke, a terrible, insulting joke.
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He was in a bind cos’ he was way behind and he was willing to make a deal.
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@Jesus Christ
Nice musical reference.
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TO OEJ
Not to bash you or anything but if you have a son then why are you on this site and not taking care of him??? Do you even have a job.
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