Basic Straw-man Fallacy… They put up this stupid straw-man that nobody in their right mind would believe in(Pastafarian Religon) and then falliciously equate it to a real belief(Intelligent Design) that is supported by many scientists, in an attempt to refute that belief.
-vashsunglasses
‘while in ID aliens could have created us, or Elvis, or a penguin, or Thor, or a muskrat, or the FSM.’
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I believe their propaganda spin doctors thought this may help to sell the “idea” (mostly a cobbling together of lifted bits and pieces of lready presented “ideas”) to all the other brands of religion.
RAmen
@norman normal
Are you by any chance Penne’s brother?
RAmen
Yes, but when i talk to people they really just don’t know shit about science. American schools are fucking terrible. Then again, it might be the FSM’s plan, pirates weren’t much for school, see the connection?
RAmen
K’ Heres the deal, My friend Maxwell told me to come over here and help free the lost ones!
I’ve got to weed through these posts and figure out who they are?
Unless Max shows up, or someone else points them out to me?
Sometimes it’s a bitch, being a noodle!
There are lost christians on every thread and their indoctrination has been very thorough so good luck. Did “they” get Maxwell?
I sure hope not?
He sent me here yesterday, I just now arrived.
Haven’t seen Max yet? Hope all is well.
The Scientologists got Maxwell? I am praying to pasta for his safe return.
Many scientists? There are far more people on the project Steve list than there are on any creationist list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve
http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/3541_project_steve_2_16_2003.asp
The wiki link can tells the story as the official sites link is dead at the moment.
Wording of the statement signe, taken from the wikipedia article
” The signed statement reads:
Evolution is a vital, well-supported, unifying principle of the biological sciences, and the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the idea that all living things
share a common ancestry. Although there are legitimate debates about the patterns and processes of evolution, there is no serious scientific doubt that evolution occurred or that natural selection is a major mechanism in its occurrence. It is scientifically inappropriate and pedagogically irresponsible for creationist pseudoscience, including but not limited to “intelligent design,” to be introduced into the science curricula of our nation’s public schools. ”
Notice that this statementactually means what its being said to say, also mentioned in the article is a ”four-day, word-of-mouth petition of scientists in support of evolution in October 2005” with over 7,000 verifiable scientists. Link to article:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scientific_Support_For_Darwinism
Now some things from the creationist side,
”Scientists and other Intellectuals that Doubt Darwinism
This list from the Intelligent Design and Evolution Awareness (IDEA) Club club has done those involved with the controversy a great favor by sifting through the many lists of evolution deniers that have been developed over the years to make this master list of nearly five hundred persons including scientists, authors, lawyers, linguists, a television script writer, a theological ethicist, and a political speech writer. It should not list the late Colin Patterson. Francis Crick, an NCSE member who has signed a strong pro-evolution statement, is an example of a questionable entry.”
From
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/steve/
How on Earth does a lawyer’s, television script writer’s or political speech writer’s opinion hold any weight on the subject whatsoever?
Our friends at AIG also have a list
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/
Although I fail to see how a ‘Creation Scientist’ can possibly claim to be unbiased?
Also, does anyone know what difference a Creation Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering Ph.D. has to a normal Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering Ph.D.?
They’re list also seems to presume to speak to the dead, or just assume those people from long before the Theory of Evolution was even put forward, would still believe in Creation if presented with todays evidence, even those at Darwin’s time and shortly afterwards would be forced to at least consider it if faced with todays evidence.
I don’t believe he has posted since he went out to battle the scientologicst and fundis about a day and a half past. As far as I know there has been no ransom note. They would be more likely to just try and brainwash him though. May the all the Noodles be with you Maxwell.
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Damn. may Maxwell have the strength and the will to pull through!
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I’m sure the FSM is smiling upon him.
Well, They won’t brainwash Max, I don’t think anyway.
Me and Max went through anti-pasta hell and back in another forum awhile ago.
Max is tough! Maybe got lost in a case or three of Labatts blue light though.
That is a weakness we both share. Well that and Donuts, it’s a long story really.
I will say a silent prayer for Max, and drink massive quantities of brew, awaiting his safe return……. A moment of non-existent silence ……………………. MMMkay……………….. that should do it!
RAmen
‘real science (intelligent design) is supported by many scientists’
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you can smell that bullshit through your computer screen. the only non-scientists that believe in intelligent design work at an institute with a completely unoriginal name. they also have a different agenda. religion, just keep the fuck out of our lives.
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thank you
I’m Max, but probably not the one you’re looking for.
@vash: ID is not science. Science is the study of natural laws and phenomena. ID, by definition, requires supernatural intervention. Ergo, it is not science.
@Jesus Christ
“just keep the fuck out of our lives.”
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Remember that we are the “Enemy” Jesus as stated on the IRC site!
Has anyone seen Maxwell?
‘99, I’m still lookin’
Jesus Christ…. You’re going to hell for using the LORDS name in vane! You dumb fuck! Geez!
Hey jesus christ, you ever heard of hicuppocrisy before?
Holy batballs buddy! Yer in big trouble with the big guy!
Better start repentin’ and stuff!
What are these people talking about cheesus?
err..I mean Jesus. So many sons, just can’t keep track of them all!
Jesus??…are you the good son?
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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