straw-man fallacy

Basic Straw-man Fallacy… They put up this stupid straw-man that nobody in their right mind would believe in(Pastafarian Religon) and then falliciously equate it to a real belief(Intelligent Design) that is supported by many scientists, in an attempt to refute that belief.

-vashsunglasses

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  1. 1 Davey Jones' Hacker Nov 17th, 2006 at 1:05 pm

    Ah-ha! The basic “many scientists” fallacy!
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    *NAME* the “many scientists” and I’ll join up with ID and my local evangelical church right *now*.
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    In your own time, shipmate…

  2. 2 bones Nov 17th, 2006 at 1:07 pm

    do you even know what “straw-man” refers to? obviously not.

    It’s painfully clear that ignorant religion only fights back against FSM because it so obviously spells the end of their idiotic beliefs.

    Henderob, you are my messiah!

    Noodles to all

  3. 3 Man From Blast Nov 17th, 2006 at 1:13 pm

    We put bushie in office? Whats your point?
    Got Weed?

  4. 4 Some random person Nov 17th, 2006 at 1:52 pm

    A straw man is making an argument for the other person, that the other person really didnt make, and arguing agaisnt it. Not a straw man here, this is just some really good satire.

  5. 5 One Oared Marc (formally Marcus Marinara) Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:00 pm

    He called our God a Straw Man — our beloved, starchy, nourishing FSM. How dare he! How dare he equate our God to dead grass shafts! Oh no, my friend, the All Powerful FSM is NOT made of straw. Nor is he tin or a lion! No, he is wonderfully dangly. Terrifically but perfectly spicy. And has big meatballs. Our God could beat up your Straw Man any day of the week! So there!

  6. 6 Nikkiee Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:02 pm

    vashsunglasses
    “equate it to a real belief(Intelligent Design)”
    Could you re-read your own post a few times and do it slowly. They help us so much.
    Thank you
    RAmen

  7. 7 Cap'nUberbob Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:06 pm

    Basic Straw-man Fallacy… They put up this stupid straw-man that nobody in their right mind would believe in (Intelligent Design) and then falliciously equate it to a real belief (Pastafarian Religon) that is supported by many scientists, in an attempt to refute that belief.
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    -Cap’nUberbob
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  8. 8 One Eyed Jack Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:19 pm

    Take a moment to learn what a straw man is. While you’re at it, look up “reductio ad absurdum.” To learn is to grow. New things are often hard at first, but give it a shot.
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    OEJ

  9. 9 Noodle Noggin Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:21 pm

    @Nikkiee

    I thought I was the only one here who read “vash” as you did. But, it needs even more of the quote: “…equate it to a real belief(Intelligent Design) that is supported by many scientists,…” They’re not real scientists if they support ID. Arrrrrrr.

  10. 10 norman normal Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:26 pm

    To quote Vishnu ‘ Oh bugger the handle’s come off!’

  11. 11 Nikkiee Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:33 pm

    @Noodle Noggin
    I just loved the “real belief” bit since they keep screaming that it is science and not religous belief.
    RAmen

  12. 12 norman normal Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:36 pm

    Have you ever been there? I have, I’ve seen the edge I’ve been there. It’s lumpy and painted with Dulux golden wheat silk emulsion.

  13. 13 Seagreen Nov 17th, 2006 at 2:43 pm

    I really love how people angrily write to this website for no real reason. If you don’t appreciate satire, then you shouldn’t be looking at this website.

    Oh, and equating Pastafarian religion with intelligent design really isn’t that silly… So Pastafarians believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster, and you believe in a big man in the sky who if you don’t do exactly as he says will send you to hell to burn forever and ever and ever…. but he loves you! I’m not sure which viewpoint is sillier…

  14. 14 Nick2 Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:06 pm

    Dear good sir,
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    Over 98% of scientists believe (i use this word even though its been proven) evolution to be fact. This clearly shows the incongruity between you belief that “many scientists” support ID and fact. Up yours.
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    Nick W.

  15. 15 Spicy meat-a-ball! Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:11 pm

    @Nick2
    It would probably be more correct to say that scientsts accept the theory as true based on overwhelming evidence. You don’t “believe in” science, you believe in religion. Science is something you test and observe.

  16. 16 Eric Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:13 pm

    vashsunglasses please enlighten me on the ins and outs of ID; tell me how it is not simply creationism in disguise. The only difference I see is that creationism names a very specific creator, while in ID aliens could have created us, or Elvis, or a penguin, or Thor, or a muskrat, or the FSM. OR you could believe in empirical evidence. During the 1950’s and later in the 70’s scientists experimented with the concept of spontaneous formation of life, showing that given the elements that are thought to have existed on Earth at the time life could spontaneously form (I will provide links if wished, however I will be out tonight so the earliest you can hope for is Saturday). During the next 3 or 4 billion years life slowly changed (i.e. evolved) into all the species we have now. Which, quite frankly makes more sense then, “god” said so so it was.
    Ramen

  17. 17 norman normal Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:14 pm

    Wow, eloquent stuff. Especially from a bunch of Americans.

  18. 18 Kite ( Assclownius Maximus ) Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:20 pm

    “while in ID aliens could have created us, or Elvis, or a penguin, or Thor, or a muskrat, or the FSM.”
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    I’d go with Elvis. He’s the king, baby.
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    A note to all the other fuckheads like vashsunglasses: Don’t tell us things like ‘many scientists support ID.’ SHOW US. Give us links to these ‘many scientists’. Have them sign a petition and send it to us. Give us PROOF. And then, we will give you a big bowl of spaghetti. Hell, even if you fail, you get the spaghetti. Because we’re cool like that.
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    Prais the pasta, and pass the parmesan.
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    May the sauce be with you.
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    RAmen.

  19. 19 Man From Blast Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:20 pm

    Where the hell are the strawberries?
    They said come here….. and get strawberries????

  20. 20 norman normal Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:22 pm

    strawberries strawberries, get ‘em while they’re ‘ot!

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American

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