straw-man fallacy

Basic Straw-man Fallacy… They put up this stupid straw-man that nobody in their right mind would believe in(Pastafarian Religon) and then falliciously equate it to a real belief(Intelligent Design) that is supported by many scientists, in an attempt to refute that belief.

-vashsunglasses

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  1. 781 jesus christ Dec 12th, 2006 at 1:10 pm

    @branded cow
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    alright, i see your point. i didn’t know about the straight pride march, however. you’re right that about those things people get carried away. besides, i’m sure the straight pride wasn’t bashing gays, just showing straight pride, right. i won’t meddle in their lives, and i certainly hope they don’t meddle in my life.

  2. 782 Branded Cow Dec 12th, 2006 at 1:19 pm

    I would love to keep this conversation going, but I gotta go. I have a final exam, then I’m going on an overnight drunk. Maybe I’ll talk to y’all when I’m good and belligerent.

  3. 783 jesus christ Dec 12th, 2006 at 1:21 pm

    @branded cow
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    alright

  4. 784 Oarless Marc Dec 12th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

    Straight Pride March? KKK March would be analogous. It spewed hated. The gay community fought against it because it was a showing of bigoted hatred. Uh, yeah, people should fight against this sort of thing. There is TONS of scientific evidence showing that gay couples are no better NOR NO WORSE than straight couples at raising children. The psychiatric community stopped considering homosexuality as a mental defect DECADES AGO. Holy shit, get into the 21st century! Your mindset is mindboggling!

  5. 785 Oarless Marc Dec 12th, 2006 at 5:17 pm

    I am speechless. Are there any adults left on this fucking site? I am so tired of arguing with stupid teenagers. I am also scared to death of the future of our globe if these people are the best and the brightest of the next generation in power. Holy shit.

  6. 786 Adrastea Jan 12th, 2007 at 8:30 pm

    This is depressing.

    Just when you being to think there might be some hope for the world after all, something like this makes you realise how deeply and offensively ignorant most people really are.

    Point: Intelligent Design has absolutely zero scientific basis, and no reputable scientist would touch it with a twenty-foot barge pole. To be quite frank, the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory makes about as much sense as ID.

    I am seriously scared for the future of the human race if people who can argue in favour of ID with a straight face are going to be running the world one day.

    And please don’t generalise like that, Marc. I’m sixteen, but I’m certainly not going to be taken in by ID - as it happens I’m actively opposed to it.

    ~Adra

  7. 787 Adrastea Jan 12th, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    Oh, and one more thing:

    Intelligent Design is not a fact, and even the person who originally posted this hate mail is inadvertently admitting to it. You do not believe in facts - you don’t need to because you know them to be true.

    Or, to re-state: “I don’t believe in science. Believing in science is like believing in the postman - I don’t have to believe because I know he’s there and doing his job. Believing in religion is more like believing in Santa - you have to believe in lieu of any sort of hard evidence.”

    ~Adra

  8. 788 IJ Mar 9th, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    If we came about by evolution . . .
    How does that disprove God?
    You cannot disprove a Creator. Can something come from nothing? No color, no sound, no matter, no force of nature. Where did nature’s laws come from?
    I love science and it is a beautiful, wondrous thing. I believe that some authority created all what is possible to create. I believe this because there is no reason otherwise. There is no reason for life to exist. There is no good reason we should continue toiling in this wearisome life if there is no God.

    Why would God send His only Son to die?
    The Son of God is one with God. He is God who came to the earth in the form of man.

    Why would He create sinful man to begin with?
    He did not. He created a being that knew not what it meant to be good, nor did he know what it meant to be ‘bad.’ He had free will, but knew not to use it, until he ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. . .yet this was in God’s plan, as something would come out of it for His people.

    God created all things for His pleasure. (Revelation 4:11) Before the world has made, He predestined salvation for human kind. (Look through Ephesians chpt. 1) With this knowledge we can say that it is God’s mysterious pleasure that we, His creation, dwell with Him in perfect unity and purity. Instead of making us like the angels, to whom it is nearly impossible to turn away from God, as they witness His glory . . . we are separated. Gold cannot come about unless it is refined by the fire. This life is simply an opportunity that God has given us to show our faith. The angels envy us for that, as they cannot show their faith. We can. . . and if we accept Jesus as the Christ, the Messiah, and be baptized in His name, God’s spirit is promised to us . . . and He will rid us, if we do not reject it, of our ’sinful nature’ that came by mortality. . . by Adam’s shortfall. . . and thus we will become immortal alongside Christ. And unlike Adam and Eve’s beginning, we will be reunited with God and know both good and evil–yet become in His likeness. We shall be pure in a wicked world. If we overcome through Him, we will reign with Him. If we thirst for righteousness, we will be filled. If we love Him, we will be with Him forevermore.

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