Your all just KIDS.
always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
when you realize what you are doing wrong its going to be to late.
FSM is nothing more than that of which it is.
And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.
you have no faith. You probably cant even tell me what faith means.
-Crulix
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George Michael can tell you a little somethin’ somethin’ about ‘faith’. We would have nothing to strive to be better than if Assholes such ass yourself didn’t invade our sanctum. See, I can misspell words too.
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“You probably cant even tell me what faith means.”
Most of us here could tell you what faith means, but it appears you don’t know what GRAMMAR means. :)
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take a look at YOUR religion;
there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. and the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. and if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time!
but he loves you. he loves you, and he needs money! he always needs money! he’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more.
the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up. war, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the ice capades. something is definitely wrong. this is not good work. is this the best your god can do?
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^ hahaha i love a little george carlin at night
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Well, even if we are these so called “kids”, we’re apparently more adult than you, because we actually know how to use grammar. Imagine that.
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;) C&P’d it, cause he makes a lick of sense.
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We are pointing fingers?! You are the one writing an email to a site, and you are judging us. Pot meet the kettle…
Ramen.
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“You probably cant even tell me what faith means.â€
Can you?
I can tell you what faith means to me Crulix, The Grammatically Challenged. It is something for people like you, who don’t have the strength to accept that life ends upon their death. It is a crutch these people use to limp their way towards an imagined eternal paradise that has all of the imagination of a third grader’s list to Santa Claus.
And what exactly did you expect to happen when you spouted your rhetoric on the Pirate’s flagship anyways?
-Yaaaaarrrrr!
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I am left speechless by your astounding maturity on this matter. However, i think your point might have been a bit clearer if you had acted a bit more adult than my SIX YEAR OLD BROTHER!!!! oy vey, all these christians!
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Faith, now let me think, I’m pretty sure I heard that one before, oh that’s right. Faith, I believe it had two definitions: 1. Belief that by definition cannot use evidence to support its claim 2. Complete and utter bull****
I personally support both definitions, however you may choose to use whichever you prefer.
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nice one bri! i think i’ll go with number two. speaking of number two, i was thinking of intelligent design…
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FSM, would never fight another god. FSM isn’t self-involved and would never pick a fight with another god.
I’ll throw this one right back at you cause it’s just aswell founded as when u threw it at us> “you have no faith”
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I’m 54 years old and I GET it. This stuff is FUNNY. Get bent.
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“Your all just KIDS.
always pointing fingers and trying to be better.”
You have us confused with bible toting idiots.
BTW, what exactly is faith. I would say:
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to one’s promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs
How close am I?
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Nothing can ruin your whack-time more than seeing a woman get crapped on by a donkey. This is the gospel according to Ferd.
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I just hope you can find faith in FSM, or grammar.
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you’re calling us the kids, but you seem to have the english capabilities of an embryo. id be fighting for your religion if i were you, but it already lost.see, i dumbed the previous sentence down so that you would understand.
sincerely,
blubbery joe
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Ahah! See, that’s just the thing. I’m not a kid, and you can’t control me. I have faith in plenty, but not in your religion or God. I never will. Get over it.
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Crulix,
can I come over to your house and play with your Jesus Dolly??
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Crulix,
We had Faith!!!!
We have moved beyond Faith!!
We now have good statistical data which indicates that 98% of all Godbothers are Grammatically challanged. Only 77% can not spell. And 100% can not READ! But hey, not necessary when you have FAITH!
May you be touched by his Noodly Appendage.
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it’s sad that we even waste our time validating comments like that of the original poster. it should be plainly obvious how foolish christianity’s beliefs are, but these people just don’t get it, and never will.
amazing, the power of brainwashing.
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Mmuuummm……..RAT stole my marbles.
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At least we can spell. Oh noes, we’re trying to be BETTER?!
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*Ahem*
You mean “you’re” all just kids
Getting the punctuation right would have to be essential when “kids” can spell better than you.
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Crulix,
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‘Your all just KIDS.
always pointing fingers’
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Spot the irony? Clue – think ‘pot’ and ‘kettle’.
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Oh noes… His noodly appendage cannot win again god… why?
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Fight never started… other player missing.
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CAN YOU SPELL HYPOCRIT?
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Just let him talk. He’ll disprove everything he says himself if you give him enough space. That’s what I do with these people. Look at the new film Jesus Camp, which is actually being promoted, and supported by the people in the film. They look like freakish fundamentalist nutbars, but they are so disconnected from reality, they think that the movie will help their cause. Come on Crulix, one more post. Please!!!
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@Your all just KIDS.
You’re all just OLD.
@always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
I don’t remember saying I was better than you.
@when you realize what you are doing wrong its going to be to late.
We already realize what we’re doing- and if it was too late, we wouldn’t be doing it. And, if you mean that we’re going to hell for protesting ID in schools- then it’s not too late for that either. We’re protesting… and we’re not in hell yet.
@FSM is nothing more than that of which it is.
I can trap lightning in a bottle and I still don’t know wtf that sentence meant…
@And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.
Please point out where anything on this site says “My god can beat your god.”
@You have no faith.
Better than having no brain…
@You probably cant even tell me what faith means.
@-Crulix
-Steven.
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“FSM is nothing more than that of which it is.”
Well doen – that is half the point of the FSM.
“And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.”
WRONG – it’s a FLAT DRAW. This is the other half of the point of FSM.
God, FSM, YHWH, Ra, Vishnu, and any other god you care to name are all as plausible as each of the others, each has precisely the same degree of evidence to support thier existence: ZERO
(Sorry to re-sate the obvious, but some people justodon’t get FSM!)
For all the roll playing (some of which can be counterproductive), no-one actually believes that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, doofus.
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So much hatred. Goodness, would your God be so happy with you wpouting ridiculous grammatically challenged words of anger toward us Spaghetti loving descendents of pirates?
Make love, not war.
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*spouting
Forgive my lack of typing ability.
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>>FSM can beat GOD
Ahh, I see a fundamental flaw in your (note correct use of your) argument – you see God cannot BEAT the FSM because….
God IS FSM.
And we do have faith, for instance, I have faith the FSM will correct your grammar, curb your arrogant and accusatory nature and allow you to see the righteousness of our beliefs.
Of course, if he doesn’t you still don’t need to worry because the FSM does not punish, burn, flay, rip or otherwise rend the flesh or souls of unbelivers….
refreshing isn’t it?
See you by the Beer volcano, Student!
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look whose pointing the finger now!….
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No-one believes in the FSM? Complete rubbish. I myself would commit suicide to get to my Piratey Paradise if I didn’t have more important things to do.
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This is just a classic example of a Creationist/Godbothering type.
No-one else is right
No-one else’s God exists.
If I don’t know how something happened, God did it.
If I don’t know how something works, God did it.
Basically, the big guy in the sky is responsible for everything – but somehow, he can’t even teach his followers to spell right?
That doesn’t sound very God-ly to me…
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http://www.swollentip.com
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Faith…oh yes…I remember Faith…Damn she was limber
Could suck a golf ball through a garden hose, now that’s talent.
RAmen
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“I myself would commit suicide to get to my Piratey Paradise ”
LOL
(I did mention over role-playing, didn’t I? Misspelled it too.)
:-)
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Hey, I happen to be 41 and I am DAMN PROUD of these “Kids” With grace and humor they are taking on 4000 years of ingrained superstion and prideful ignorance.
Oh, you asked about faith, it is the minds ability to accept as “true” things that cannot be proven. Great, you have the ability to belive any lies you wish to tell youself, nifty talent! Now try learning some provable facts about your world and see if that isn’t a little more diffecult but alot more satisfying!
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1) Technically, I am a kid, yes, I’m 15.
2) I try not to point fingers (like some people *hint-hint*)
3) FSM cannot beat god, cause it IS god, duh.
4) I have faith that He will deliver us from all evil.
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Fortunately with people like Crulix around the argument for “intelligent” design falls flat on its face. I would doubt that an all powerful creator would create in his own image a slavering half wit. So therefore if you can follow my logic….
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At least we have tastier sacraments! Mmmm, Spaghetti – communion wafers, boring!
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Well, lets put it this way, Crulix. Your religion makes you happy, the FSM makes us happy. Isn’t that what ANY god would want? The FSM or your God did not put us on this earth to be unhappy, so relax, sit back and learn how to laugh. Reamember that, when you feel like putting down someone elses religion.
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lets see, i used 2 be a christian 2 and guess what its never 2 late 2 repent even though there is little to no point
Ramen
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“Hey, I happen to be 41 and I am DAMN PROUD of these “Kids†With grace and humor they are taking on 4000 years of ingrained superstion and prideful ignorance.
Oh, you asked about faith, it is the minds ability to accept as “true†things that cannot be proven. Great, you have the ability to belive any lies you wish to tell youself, nifty talent! Now try learning some provable facts about your world and see if that isn’t a little more diffecult but alot more satisfying! ”
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My eyes are welling up with tears, I love you too man!
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Maybe if you add some garlic and butter to those communion wafers they may compliment our spaghetti. mmmmm.
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Is it a bad thing to be addicted to reading the hate mail here? WWFSMD?
And I must STOP [smack hand] reading at work! It’s getting more and more difficult to explain the outbursts of laughter. I will keep repeating: “Bookkeeping is boring, Bookkeeping is boring. Bookkeeping is not a laughing matter.” Then one of these nutty buddies writes a new one and all self-control is out the window.
RAmen
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faith- noun- confidence or trust in a person or thing
there see? i told you what it is
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Hey crulix? You said we were “always pointing fingers” guess which finger I’m pointing? If you give up there’s a hint below.
HINT: its the one in the middle!
RAmen!
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Yet again, I laugh till I pee. You people crack me up. Stop getting offended by us and go to church! Don’t you have some praying to do to your so called, “all mighty God”? I’m so very glad that I don’t have to worry about going to a fiery death, like God wants us to. Instead, I get to die and live among the many beer volcanoes!
Ramen!
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@Princess M
I know exactly what you mean. My work is far from boring and I love it, but tis not as funny or addictive as this site.
RAmen
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Nikkiee/princessM
I had to stop using the verganza website as my home page at work, cause I was too tempted, even though I love the top banner
Plus my kitchen manager who I share offic space with is a very devout christian, and would probably be offended if she knew what FSM is all about. It’s funny though, some people are nice individually, but get them together as a group, or let them post anonymous comments on a website, and their niceness quotient drops as fast as their IQs (mostly the christians, I mean, not the Pastafarians, of course)
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@Pickles,
I’m for giving “enough rope” myself (except when I feel like playing). Works every time.
RAmen
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Yes lunchlady.
Guilt says I must go back to concentrating on work. NOW
BTW I’ve constantly found myself, whilst working with data, calculating out the illegal numbers and seeking pasta based results. Must resist.
RAmen
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Crulix, I am curious about the motivation behind your post. What are you trying to accomplish? This site has attracted a wide variety of people with a simple metaphor about organized religion and the dangers of dressing it up as scientific fact in the hope that no one will notice. Many of the people here possess life experiences vastly beyond yours. They have education, charity of spirit, clarity of vision, and a more than passing understanding of noun/verb contractions verses the possessive case.
Was your message simply one of hate, which, I believe is highly frowned upon by your Invisible Sky-Daddy? Was your highly cogent and logical argument intended to sway us to your way of thinking and thus snatch us back from the very maw of eternal damnation? Why do you even care? I mean, think about it, if you save us from our nihilistic nirvana and we all meet in heaven, you’ll have to share that same heaven with all of us, and we’d just end up dressing as pirates and giving Jesus wedgies. Mayhaps you have something to gain? An etheric merit badge? Purchase points for the number of souls save that you can use to buy an electric toilet scrubber/shoe polisher or any one of a million other useless kitschy detritus from a heavenly equivalent to an Amway catalog?
Is it possible that your post is purely an infantile knee-jerk reaction to something that is different and scares you with non-conformity? If that is the case, would not you, then, be the child?
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oops
edit: saved
In my fervor I seem to have forgotten to match cases and use appropriate declension.
Most humble apologies to all.
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Re: “dressing as pirates and giving Jesus wedgies”
Dear CaptMadRogerFlint(Esqr),
nikkiee and I need to go get some work done, which is not going happen if we keep coming back here and bustin’a'gut every few minutes.
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Crulix—what a ridiculous name. How can I expect to take you seriously with such a stupid name? Not that I’d take you seriously anyway, of course. You proved yourself wrong with your silly preaching:
“If you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.”
First of all, you acknowledge the existence of another deity apart from your own. Isn’t that, according to your erroneous system of belief, blasphemy? Secondly, since the Flying Spaghetti Monster=God, how can He have lost?
“You have no faith.”
If we have no faith, how do you rationalize our belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
“You probably cant even tell me what faith means.”
Because you, with your immaculate grammar and infinite divine wisdom, could divulge that sacred and little known information to us.
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I’m a kid.
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Me and my imaginary friends too. (err…I mean 4)
RAmen
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Faith is what people have when they ain’t got brains.
Go play with your imaginary friends. And keep them to yourself, you pitiful atavism.
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Who? me?
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I think I am in love with CaptMadRogerFlint(Esqr)! Thank you, Captain, for the best possible response to Crulix.
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And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.
BS. how could he have lost when God dident show up?
Because he didnt, because he isnt real.
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I read the entire Gospel(of the FSM) yesterday, and all that enlightenment reeeeeeeeally hurt my eyes. Proper grammar rules!
FSM pwns, RAmen, etc.
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always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
”
I’d Really Rather You Didn’t Act Like a Sanctimonious Holier-Than-Thou Ass When Describing My Noodly Goodness. If Some People Don’t Believe In Me, That’s Okay. Really, I’m Not That Vain. Besides, This Isn’t About Them So Don’t Change The Subject.
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–Sean
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I’m not a kid… I’m 32! Of course I am a guy, so maybe I am a kid…
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Ay the name is awful. Who would name then selves after a method of horrible execution? I mean pirate probably died on the cross! (Well it was the shape or a capital y) Name you self something cool and meaning full like my name. It the scientific name for portbeagle sharks that only quickly and almost painlessly killed the fools that took more than there fair share on pirate ships. Also take away the port part and it’s the ship Darwin sailed on. The I will bother reading your hate mail.
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You have obviously taken the teachings of Happy Bunny way too seriously. IE: Grammer Suks Big Tim. I may not like grammer a whole lot when it gets to the advanced stuff, but at least I knew enough to pass the 5th grade. And, by the way, faith is a sincere and devoted belief in something. For example: I sincerely have faith in the fact that you are an idiot. Cheers^_^
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I don’t think it is necessary to rant about Crulix’s name. Sure it is derrived from that horrible way to die, but it is also a symbol of their profet being sacrificed. It would be like Crulix making fun of everyone here who has an eye-patch in their name. Also our names are not that much better. Cap’n Odin Fry encompasses the names of 2 Norse gods while he argues for FSMism and my name is completely meaningless.
Lets all be kids and call each other poopoo-heads.
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FAITH – belief without reason
FAITH – rationalizing the irrational
I have faith that a giant air-borne, invisible wad of pasta is as releveant to my life as well….umm….did you guys ver figure out whether you worship god, Jesus and the ummm Holy Spirit individually, as the smae being or just god and Jesus?
You Chrisitians figure out who you worship and I’ll take the FSM, the mountain, the trees and a midget.
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FAITH – sticking your head in the sand coz reality is just too damn hard.
FAITH – getting as many people as possible to join you to legitimise this pursuit. Maybe even get it drafted into law. (Starting with the schools!)
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Ha-ha! Crulix’s blind faith and idiocy tickles my brain!
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Everyone has faith. I have faith the ground wont dissove below me
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Faith: The best way to avoid paying taxes outside of the Bahamas
Faith: An excuse to wear silly clothes in public.
Faith: The source of some good holidays, and the target of some better satire.
Faith: Justification for mass murder, crusades, poligamy and other crimes against humanity.
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“Just let him talk. He’ll disprove everything he says himself if you give him enough space…”
Its true: these people disprove what is in their own holy book. Here’s a quote from the bible.
“..and god be everywhere you go, everywhere. In the clouds, in the seas, and in the forests….”
And a fundies explanation of the evils in the world?
“Evil is the absence of god.”
So, given enough space, fundies can disprove their own holy books!!
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So god is every were but also not? Also i believe FSM could beat the Christian god. And I’m not lost i know exactly were i am. So when is to late to realize what were doing is wrong. If i realized it was wrong tomorrow (dont worry I wont) then that would be to late? To late for what? A party? a bus? Salvation? The breakfast menu?
And a finally note I’m not a kid. I in know way resemble a young goat.
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The bible is funny, so I made a ytmnd making fun of the event that happens after God judges you after death.
http://themutualrelationship.ytmnd.com/
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“Your all just KIDS.
always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
when you realize what you are doing wrong its going to be to late.
FSM is nothing more than that of which it is.
And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.
you have no faith. You probably cant even tell me what faith means.
-Crulix”
1. its “you’re”
2. i might not be able to tell you what faith means, but i can tell you that in my case its quite tasty!
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“1. its “you’re—
I admire your attempt, however if you insist on correcting people you should use correct grammar yourself: 1. it is “you’re,” or 1. it’s “you’re.”
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Yes, however the distinction between “its” and “it’s” is not as noticeable as the distinction between “your” and “you’re”
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In my first term at university, some years ago, I kept accidentally sticking apostrophes in ‘its’ even though I knew it was wrong.
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After a few weeks, I got an essay back from my supervisor with a huge cross and circle over one of these errors, with a comment scribbled next to it: ‘What *are* we going to do about this intrusive posessive?’
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What indeed?
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Faith trumps grammar. When you believe your are right, you are right, and that’s all there is to it, even if you are wrong, because when one has faith, one doesn’t actually need to know anything, because you know it all already, even the things you don’t know, because faith makes up for it, because faith is holy ignorance, and since it is holy, it’s not ignorant, because it automatically gives you a direct connection to God (T1, not crappy DSL or cable), which makes you all-knowing by association, so having faith is just like knowing everything, even if you don’t know anything, except what your preacher and parents tell you to know. Couldn’t be simpler.
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Obviously, from all the hatemail posts I’ve seen, faith and grammar can’t peacefully co-exist.
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@Mike Meier
Yes Mike. No need to question anything.
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Faith: belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence
ha!
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we have no faith? You’re the one getting offended by something so outragious as a Flying Spaghetti Monster! If other religions are the work of the devil (as is what chritianity teaches) then you give the devil much power. Turn the other cheek, because heckling and judging anyone wont change their mind.
Silence is Noodly delicious.
RAmen
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mates all i have to say is. i am a christian, and i cant understand why we’re all getting so upset over the flying spaghetti monster. i mean.. its a fucking ball of spaghetti. what kind of person who is secure in their faith gets so threatened by that. i say keep up the good work gentlemen.
p.s. i plan on purchasing t shirts and passing out fliers to the crazy church people who stand on the streets in orlando preaching about christianity.
in the name of the noodle, feta cheeni, and holy flying spaghetti monster. amen.
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Precisely. People who are truly secure in their beliefs wouldn’t get so riled up abou it. When anyone responds to something with venom and hatred, it’s because they feel threatened by it…just the same way that the majority of homophobics display repressed homosexual tendancies (i laughed when i read the study that tested this, but it is true – out of a large number of heterosexual volunteers, the majority those who professed to “hate gays” showed greater sexual arousal when presented with pictures of same-sex nudity than those who showed more tolerance).
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Faith? You imply that its a good thing. What makes you think that? Oh, I know, your FAITH itself, maybe? Get it?
Seems to me believing things without evidence is BAD and would leave to bad decisions.
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Theoretical evidence of evolution
Mathematical models of evolution, pioneered by the likes of Sewall Wright, Ronald Fisher and J. B. S. Haldane and extended via diffusion theory by Motoo Kimura, allow predictions about the genetic structure of evolving populations. Direct examination of the genetic structure of modern populations via DNA sequencing has recently allowed verification of many of these predictions. For example, the “Out of Africa” theory of human origins, which states that modern humans developed in Africa and a small sub-population migrated out (undergoing a population bottleneck), implies that modern populations should show the signatures of this migration pattern. Specifically, post-bottleneck populations (Europeans and Asians) should show lower overall genetic diversity and a more uniform distribution of allele frequencies compared to the African population. Both of these predictions are borne out by actual data from a number of studies.
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indeed. in fact, most of the population of the world carries only a fraction of the genetic variation to be found in Africa. hell, Africa has tribal peoples who grow to four feet tall and have only two toes on each foot. i wonder what the advocates of “man is made in God’s image” make of that…
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Yaaargh! We Pirates and Wenches don’t need no steenking FAITH. Thar’s TELEPHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF of His Noodly Goodness right hyar:http://fim1ur2.blogspot.com/2006/10/presenting-telescopic-proof-of.htmlMay we all be touched by His Noodly Appendage.RAmen!
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Yeah! Faith implies that there’s no way you can prove something, but we can PROVE the exsistance of his Noodly Appendage! We have scientific evidence! YAY GRAPHS! And for the record, pastafarians come from all age groups, just as members of the other religions do.
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“you have no faith”
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I hope you were talking directly to me, as you are correct I have none at all and I am so proud. Faith is ignorance!
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@Devil Ponies -
His/her religion clearly does not make him/her happy. If it did, s/he’d wouldn’t go around spouting hate.
@CaptMadRogerFlint(Esqr)
Freakin’ hilarious. Let’s get married.
Now I have to actually work while I’m at work. I know many of you feel my pain.
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Unless you become like one of these “little children” (kids) you will never enter the kingdom of your own God.
(I’m so happy whenever I’m able to use someone’s own gospel against himself/herself!)
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I am delighted to say that I have no faith.
What a terrible little evil faith is- a determination to believe something despite, and maybe because, there is no evidence for it whatsoever.
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program Faith;
begin
. if ((Faith=virtue) or (faith=even necessary) or (Faith=useful)) and (Faith delsuional) then
. begin
. PigsFly(Sacramento, 6:00 AM, Los Angeles, 8:00 AM); {Saddle up!}
. UFOAbduction(Grandma, 1949); {Explains a lot about the old gal}
. LochNessLives(’In my bathtub”); {It’s a big tub}
. BigFootFound(’Your Neighborhood’); {I’m leaving out a plate of milk and cookies}
. ToothFairy(tonight, bicuspid, $1); {$2 for root canals}
. Weather(”Act of God”); {Has nothing to do with the sun, rotaion of earth, etc.}
. end
. else
. FSM;
end. {RAmen}
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this site is lame if you ask me
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“Faith…oh yes…I remember Faith…Damn she was limber
Could suck a golf ball through a garden hose, now that’s talent.”
LOL
“this site is lame if you ask me”
If I wanted your opinion, I would GIVE it to you, blasphemer!
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you have poor grammar.
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@ All pastafarians, atheists, humanists, Brights, and free-thinkers,
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Ahoy there!
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I’m copying this post onto a few threads because I’d like as many people as possible to notice it. (Bobby, if you should read this, is there any chance of a new thread?)
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You might have spotted on these pages Richard Dawkins’ high-profile references to the FSM, unmasking himself as at the very least an honorary pastafarian and certainly a friend of pirates the world over. He’s done his bit for the FSM – here’s a chance to return the favour.
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His many books on evolution and, in particular, his recent book ‘The God Delusion’ have influenced a lot of people here.
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Anyway, here in Britain, one of our national newspapers, The Daily Telegraph, in conjunction with Morgan Stanley, is running the third annual ‘Great Britons’ awards. People are invited to vote for the British person they think has been the most ‘Great’ (somehow) in each of seven categories.
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Me salty guts tell me that a hearty lot of pirates’ll want to support their own and put their cutlasses behind Richard Dawkins, by far and away Britain’s noodliest man of 2006, and doubtless also he of the biggest meatballs.
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I nominated him earlier today, in the ‘Campaigning’ category. You can add your nominations by visiting greatbritons.org. It takes barely a minute and might help one of the FSM’s finest sea-dogs to the gain the legendary status he deserves. You can even put in a 50-word explanation of why he gets your vote, which would probably strengthen the case (if you’ve anything to say). If you’d like to know more about him, try visiting richarddawkins.net.
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Douglas Adams fans might like to note that Dawkins and Adams were close friends and that Adams credited Dawkins’ books ‘The Blind Watchmaker’ and ‘The Selfish Gene’ as having influenced his reasoning towards atheism. Dawkins wrote a ‘Lament for Douglas’ immediately after Adams’ death, and delivered a eulogy at his funeral.
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I’ve a second reason for recommending this. The Telegraph ran an article by regular columnist Charles Moor on Saturday that dismissed ‘The God Delusion’ as ‘fashionable’ and gave a very selective, wilfully interpreted representation of its content. It’s a good newspaper but pretty thoroughly conservative – not an obvious place for pastafarianism to thrive. In light of this, I think it doubly worthwhile to demonstrate the strength of support that Richard enjoys among the world’s many pirates to the Telegraph.
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(Note – I’ve left http:// off the website addresses in this post, as the first couple of times I tried to post it, it got stuck awaiting moderation. Hopefully this’ll help.)
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Nominations for the awards continue until November 24th. If ye can spare a second of plunderin’ time, set a course for greatbritons.org and add your cannon to a broadside for free thinking and the FSM!
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May His Noodly Appendage be upon ye all.
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RAmen
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Dear “not telling you my name”:
The problem with a phrase such as “if you ask me” is that it is usually preceded or followed by a comment that NO ONE asked for; I see that your post is no exception. Thanks for enlightening us all with your well thought-out argument.
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@J
Done!
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“Briefly, and due in large part to my reading of Dr Dawkin’s recent book, “The God Delusion”, but also considering the current atmosphere where primitive and dangerous myths people still live by are threatening everyone’s freedoms and lives, I’d like to nominate Richard Dawkins for this award. His work, recent and past, sets an example for scholarship, courage, fairness, and integrity that no doubt will serve the field of biology and science in general well. In addition, his work will influence education and public discourse on these and related matters for years to come. His willingness to speak to the public on these matters sets him apart from many academics, and his ability to explain and defend his position in public forums is impressive.
I’d like to be able to compare him to Carl Sagan, but Dr. Dawkins’s work promises to do much more than interest people in science. He speaks to issues that define our societies, and he is doding it at a time when we most need it.”
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@not telling you my name
Who’s asking?
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I had to go back and shorten my nomination a lot. 50 words max.
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@J
“If ye can spare a second of plunderin’ time, set a course for greatbritons.org and add y
our cannon to a broadside for free thinking and the FSM! ”
Will do J
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@Uomo Felice Della Pasta
“No-one believes in the FSM? Complete rubbish. I myself would commit suicide to get to my Piratey Paradise if I didn’t have more important things to do.”
There’s a question: if one commits suicide do they go to FSM hell?
What is FSM hell? is it like over cooked spaghetti? A wattery strach mess that you can’t swin in due to the pecific density being similar to quick sand? A pernod volcano and a mary Whitehouse factory?
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Why does the award on the Great Britons site look like a giant mishsapen bronze sperm?
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FSM hell is the same but the tomato sauce is a little bit spicy, you know? Presumably the Anti-Pasta is there as well, maybe a little tomato bruschetta. I believe the wine side leans towards a Valpolicella.
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Is all the wine more than £3.99 a bottle?
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@MikeMeier:
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You had a syntactical error in your LochNessLives function (calling the variable you used a double quote to open and a single quote to end), so I am afraid that while I ran it, I may have inadvertently created a loop, and there will be Loch Ness monsters coming to bathtubs near you. And you. And possibly even you.
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It’s funny though, some people are nice individually, but get them together as a group, or let them post anonymous comments on a website, and their niceness quotient drops as fast as their IQs…
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Christianity would not be where it is today without exploiting the mob mentality. This is fairly well documented in the Bible; charismatic preachers travelling from town to town and physically going after people garnered the most converts. So Christians are used to the nice, safe anonymity of the mob. And often people who have embraced the tenets of Christianity without actually embracing the philosophy are unable to let go of their hatred of “the different.” So when they have the opportunity to cast the first stone with safety from accountability, they tend to do so.
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Please note that I am not identifying all Christians as mob mentals. Why, some of my best friends are Christian! And they’re fairly harmless really. Good sorts who hardly ever feel the urge to extort, threaten, bribe, or manipulate people into their system of beliefs. Oh, and they speak and write rather literately. So let’s not throw all Christians under the bus eh?
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Throw Christianity under the bus, then let the (former) Christians board it.
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@MM
Okay, I chuckled.
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Ah jeez!! FSM can’t beat God?? How dare you? FSM owns God! Anyway FSM is probably Gods dad.
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Well, you lose a little sumthin when you begin you’re (sic) rant with ‘your’ instead of the intended ‘you’re’. Other than that. . .
Whaddya mean “trying” to be better?! We ARE better! FSM rules!
Arg!!!!
Song:
FSM loves me, this I know
for the Pasta tells me so
Little meatballs to Him/Her belong
They are meat but He/She is Sauce
Yes, FSM loves me
Yes, FSM loves me
Yes, FSM loves me
for the Pasta tells me so!
Ramen.
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Your all just IDIOTS.
Always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
When you realize what you are doing wrong its going to be to late.
Christianity is nothing more than an angry old man making up rules.
And if you really think GOD can beat FSM…it already lost.
You have no soul. You probabally hate spaghetti and pirates, too.
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I’m not a kid myself, but I teach them everyday. Interestingly enough, they understand what an apostrophe is….
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I think you need to read the Gospel of the FSM and pray. Once you have truly had a personal relationship with Him, you will be in no doubt of His truth, righteousness, and
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“I’m not a kid myself, but I teach them everyday. Interestingly enough, they understand what an apostrophe is….”
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I’m sorry to hear that, Jeremy. The world has a sickening surplus of apostrophes and a frightening shortage of apostates. Perhaps we could swap a couple in the classroom when nobody is looking.
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OEJ
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I believe Mark Twain once wrote that “Faith is belief in what you know ain’t true.” That seems like a pretty good evaluation to me.
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This is really interesting stuff, don’t you think. The Christians and Pastafarians love to taunt each other, each believing the adherents of the other faith are ignorant, short-sighted dullards who blindly accept one or the other teachings blindly. Isn’t this the problem with most, if not all, of the major organized religiions? The preaching of tolerance and the giving of none seems to be a defining characteristic. As such, are the radical Pastafarians any better in their behavior than the fundamentalist adherents of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and on and on?
Perhaps the problem is greater than religion itself. It would seem that Human Beings, of any creed, race, or nation, or naturally given to “Us” vs. “Them” behavior. There would seem to be plenty of observable evidence for that. If the theory that we’re all going to seek out conflict regardless of circumstances is ture, it doesn’t matter what icons we worship, since we’ll create and then rally around the ones that we prefer, be it flags, sports teams or religious beliefs.
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I am Christian and I try not to taunt anyone, mainly because I’m quite aware of how ridiculous I am and spend most of my time laughing at that and futurama.
That being said, I can see where you would discern a tendency in groups to define the opponent and then the subtle or overt war ensues. Livescience just posted an article discussing behavioral patterns which are considered ingrained within the human mind. They then supposed that to be why person use similar motions when reaching for food and what not. There is the possibility that the need to compete and the survivalist instinct is ingrained and that is what drives the desire to obliterate/stigmatize/blog someone interpreted to be competition or prey. The continuity of this behavior could be ingrained in the mind. Then considering that the survival is not for the individual but divined by group,then what you suppose about religion as not necessary to conflict makes sense.
Nonetheless, I don’t necessarily believe that radical pastafarians are equal to the behavior of Islamic or Christian extremists. To me, in the mosaic of American society, it would seem that Christianity has a strong foothold that presupposes territory whereas pastafarianism is more individualized. In other words, it doesn’t necessarily seek to ‘convert’ to pastafarianism it merely seeks to prevent conversion to Christianity without choice.
That being said this is great. I think I may make some spaghetti later.
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christians posting things here.. NOTHING YOU SAY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. But you’ll never give up, will you. You just keeeep posting. I don’t think you would like it very much if i went to some christian forum and started rambling about the FSM and how you need his forgiveness and other shit. No, we wouldn’t do something ridiculous like that. You have abosolutely no right to tell us who we should worship.
Why do you think everyone hates fundamentalist, traditionalist, extremist christians so much? Why do you friggin think? Because your such lovely people who like telling us we’re going to hell? Ok i’m generalising here, i know not all christians are like this, but it’s too hard to ignore the ones who are.
just fuck off.
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Ashes, that was a refreshingly lucid, level-headed post. Thanks. That being said, I must point out that I really resent the fact that because Christianity does have such a foothold, its followers are so bold in their assumptions about the rest of us. If we were able to look at human civilization in its entirety through time and cultures, wouldn’t we see that Christianity is one among thousands of belief systems, and that the Christian God is one among tens of thousands of deities man has dreamed up? Doesn’t that make Christianity the Faith of the Month, so to speak? With this in mind, I definitely do not want my children, or my society’s children, taught the current, popular religion as science. That’s the kicker for me. I don’t care if it’s taught, but it should not be taught as science. It should be taught in the proper context: Christianity, and its first cousin Intelligent Design, is one of many belief systems and is no more valid than any other just because it has many, many followers.
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You know, the assuming nature is very unsettling for me as well. We hosted a symposium on religion and morality and it was disturbing that so many people equate atheism with amorality. Although I must admit that I am always nervous when large groups form and start developing regulations to accomodate for innovation based on their own interpretation of text written ages before by people.
Nonetheless I would like to point out that I am not a fan of intelligent design being taught in schools. It looks like persons basically attempting to shoehorn religious theology through the back door because the first amendment prevents it getting through the front. Also, I don’t believe that the number of followers lends a religion validity. If in fact what you choose to believe is based on faith, the number of persons joining you in that regard should be irrelevant. Likewise, the timing also should make no difference in a faith based situation. That being said, I wonder if religion is one of the habits ingrained as the article suggested. I mean you could certainly make the point if you grew up in a religious household, but how interesting would it be if there were in fact a dynamic to the brain that necessitated belief?
Now, moving on to Cathie. You should probably read the rest of the post before you begin your next verbal tirade. I was posting in relation to a livescience article on scientific examination of ingrained human reactions within the brain. If you want to go post on some website somewhere feel free, I’m a big fan of the first amendment.
I have not now, nor have I ever told someone who/what they should worship. Nor have I ever told someone they are going to hell. Although if that is their destination I will surely see them there. I have an excruciatinly flexible morality. Plus, I suffer a crisis of faith practically constantly, to attempt to persuade or even inform someone of Christianity well, it would smack of hypocrisy.
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Ashes,
You are obviously an articulate and intellegent person.
“I mean you could certainly make the point if you grew up in a religious household, but how interesting would it be if there were in fact a dynamic to the brain that necessitated belief?”
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Google “Belief Gene”. See what you think of that research.
The link below is a newspaper report:
“Geneticist claims to have found ‘God gene’ in humans”
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041114-111404-8087r.htm
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I haven’t gotten around to reading any of the actual findings or reviews myself yet.
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Every time I read a post by Ashes, I think my IQ goes up a little bit.
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I’m going to sit here quietly and read and not say anything (now, y’gotta admit kids, that’s unusual).
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Hi, Ashes,
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Thanks for not taking umbrage to Cathie and leaving. If people like you didn’t come here and post, we’d all be sitting around in dumb mutual agreement until we got bored and drifted away. (I’d probably get some work done, too, which would spell The Beginning of The End.)
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There was some discussion about the notion of evolutionary bases for religion on one of the other threads. I think I spouted a whole lengthy late-night rant on the subject (not rare). I’m also pretty sure that people have written books on the subject. (One of Daniel Dennett’s, possibly?) Whether there is specific ‘God gene’ or not, I find it highly likely that a combination of the pre-programmed mental processes that have evolved in us, leading us to work in groups and perceive the world around us in terms of ourselves, could overlap to create the ‘God-Shaped Hole’ that so many of us urgently want to fill.
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This is one of the knockout blows to theism, for me. Once your grasp of the world has reached the point where you can more easily explain a believe in a non-existent god than the existence of a real god, you logically find yourself having to ask any religious faith you hold some pretty stern questions.
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What’s nice is that, when you do decide that you’re an atheist, the sun still rises in the morning, the same people keep showing up doing the same things, and god conspicuously fails to smite you. And you can absorb the mind-blowing things we are learning about the world without a trace of metaphysical guilt.
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“Your all just KIDS.” “FSM can beat GOD”
Wow! Such heavy use of acronyms (why else would these terms be in capital letters, right?). Yes we are KIDS if, by that, you mean Knowledgeable and Intelligent Disciples of the Spaghedeity. Thanks for the compliment. And while we all are aware of what FSM stands for it may not be clear, however, as to what GOD means. I must admit to having had no clue as to its meaning myself, until I conducted a little research. Here is what I found out:
The only religious entity I found with the initials GOD, or something close it was; Dios de Gazpacho Ondeante (loosely translated this means God of the undulating, cold cucumber soup). Apparently, this a deity held in high regard by small reformist religion from Central America. The article I found about it was a little (and by a little I mean; a lot) fuzzy on the details, so I can’t really tell you anything about it. If anyone has any insight into this religion please let me know.
And so to comment on “if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.†I beg to differ. Spaghetti is way more appetizing than gazpacho.
By the way, might I suggest purchasing The Little Brown Handbook? It can be found in any bookstore I imagine (I found mine in my college’s bookstore). I too, used to suffer from bad grammar, but I found this book to be quite helpful. Good luck and FSM-speed.
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It would be wonderful if there was a “God Gene” (note the capital G for gene) and then we could simply take a pill that reversed that gene and suddenly everyone would wake up and start loving one another like brothers and sisters and peace would flourish and everyone could eat whatever they wanted. But I have to think that religion has been an evolutionary staple of our human diet propelling us to Noodly Goodness so we could learn how to get along well enough to have time in the tribe so we could invent the computer and Internet and waste our time eating hamburgers, which are making us sick. And that is what the war is coming to, (not between McDonalds and Olive Garden) but the fight between intelligence and moron-ism, only there are many more marching morons then us and no amount of Killer Tomato attacks are going to stop them in their tracks. If humans are to ever grow up and become more then an Oregano seed on the planet they are going to have to shed all vestegables of superstition and wake up and realize that we were always the God, god, Gog, Magog of life.
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Gleaned from the little I have read about this research.
Firstly, it came out of a fairly reputable organisation: “Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda”
Thing is, that a male and female each carrying two dominant copies of this gene are likely to meet up, say at a meeting of their chosen belief crowd, and be attracted (upbringing influences may play a large part as which crowd it is) to each other. If they were to marry and have kids, then the kids genome will already be stacked. Add the religous training to the mix and the circle goes on. I must point out that the researchers suggest that it is the interaction of the protein products, for which this gene codes, with those of other genes. They also suggest it affects overall tendency to spiritual leaning or questioning. So I guess, this implies, that the function of this gene could be involved in all areas of abstract questioning.
It’s only a thought! I will get around to reading more background about it when I get a chance. I have a fairly strong interest in elucidation of gene function and gene interactions.
Religion comes no where near the awe inspiring mechanations of natural biological systems.
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I have several problems with the ‘God Gene’ theory. The first is that it treats belief in a deity or a religious system (faith) as being the same as connection to the universe or religious experience. They are not the same at all, almost by definition. Religious experience does not demand faith. It is an experience that is so far removed from normal experience that it is indescribable, and like any experience, it does not require faith. It is just an experience. That means no beliefs, no practices, and no faith.
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The genetic link is problematical. I’m not against the idea at all, but I think you would need a very large test group to support it. Then you would have to ask if the presence of a gene that predisposed people to religious experience has anything to do with the reality of the experience? I don’t think genetics can’t answer that question.
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Finally, is the presence of chemicals in the brain corresponding with various mental conditions a cause or an effect? Are the chemicals present when people have a certain experience or do they produce the experience? I’m pretty sure clinicians don’t know.
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This is a little off topic, but it relates to the assumptions made by followers of “popular” religions like Christianity. The other day at work, I saw some people attempting to find somewhere to meet. Out of curiosity, I asked one of them what they were meeting about. I thought it might be something I could be interested in, or FSM forbid, a meeting I was supposed to be attending. One of the group told me they were journaling. I said, “Journaling?” I was confused because it seemingly had nothing to do with work. Then she said that they read some scripture and then journaled about what it meant to them. I said something like “Wow. That’s interesting.” Now, I don’t care that they were doing it at work, as it was during lunch. What bothered me was that they just assumed that nobody would be offended. Actually, I don’t think anyone should be offended. I don’t think they even thought about it from that angle at all. Yet, what would happen if I tried to organize and carry out a quiet discussion based on pagan beliefs? You better believe I would think about whom I might offend. I would also be very afraid of losing my job. I do talk about FSMism with one colleague because she “gets it,” but mostly I keep my beliefs to myself. For some reason, I seem to be working with a bunch of Christian churchgoers with deflated senses of humor. I must be needed there!
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By the way, I wasn’t equating Pastafarianism with paganism. I call myself a pagan because I don’t follow any mainstream religion. I’m a pagan in the sense that I don’t believe in Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I love telling Christians I’m a pagan. Most of the time, I say I’m not Christian, but when I’m feeling especially ornery I say I’m a pagan. One time, a co-worker asked me what I believe about my own salvation if I’m not a Christian. I told him that salvation meant nothing to me. That pretty much ended the conversation. I like this person, and we are still friendly when we run into each other, but I won’t even entertain the notion that I need his God for salvation. I won’t even discuss it.
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Fr.
“Finally, is the presence of chemicals in the brain corresponding with various mental conditions a cause or an effect? Are the chemicals present when people have a certain experience or do they produce the experience? I’m pretty sure clinicians don’t know.”
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Your right Fr. and it will probaby be many many years before we can even get the basic idea. Chicken vs Egg.
There has been some elucidation of abherrant gene sequences relating to some mental disorders. This affects the level or the function of the gene product.
Genes also code for, and maintain levels regulatory products involved in chemical messenger interactions.
Stimulation could direct these regulators to stimulate/supress the level of end products OR the effect could be reliant on the ability of their products (example: how fuctional they are) to interpret the stimulation.
Our knowledge of the interactions of enviromental stimuli, neurotransmitter production role in cause and effect is still in an embryonic stage. I think everyone agrees that the switches which are triggered by such stimuli are of the utmost interest.
Possibly this gene was hinted at in some past research along those lines of enquiry.
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@Fr. Corpus Callosum
Here is an overview and some background on the author and his area of research.
Unitl I get time to have a further look into this, I’m afraid that is all I can offer.
RAmen
http://rex.nci.nih.gov/RESEARCH/basic/biochem/DiscoverArticle.html
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WOW!! I’VE NEVER HAD ANYONE PUT IT SO ELOQUENTLY BEFORE!! IT ALL MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW!! THANK O GREAT CRULIX!! YOU HAVE SAVED ME AND I AM NO LONGER A SINNER!! YOUR JOB IS DONE!
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I believe in athletic gymnasium. I believe in nude power and maxing it out for strength. I do not agree with exhausting aerobics like the non-believers seem to think is the only way to keep a body in good working condition. I take it to the streets for a little “hand to hand” if someone thinks they can tell me MY way of getting to the meat of a problem is the wrong way to conduct business. I am in it to build on what was already put there by CHIRST ON HIS THRONE! And I am in it for raw muscle. Muscle and power. NUDE POWER!!! How can you forget that the one who gave us raw power and nude strength was a man who knows the meaning of working his meat? He knew what it was like to work his meat for the father and so I work my meat too. And I take it all the way to the top and into the streets if someone telle me not to pass go and collect my dues. We are all in it to win. Winning in the streets and working our meat for Christ because he gave a chance at something true (finally). I love athletic gymnasium!!!!! No women allowed because they will never be as true to JEsus as a raw, nude man full of power and strength, willing to kill for the lord.
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Cupcake did you dick get smaller when you took all those steroids?
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You know the brain needs exercices too!
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I guess I’ll be meeting you in the street!!!!
Meat vs. Meat!!!
Love,
Cupcake ala meatcake
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“nowtheworldhasmeating”…nice…
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Cupcake
Stop playing with yourself!
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Fruitloop!
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Head of evangelical churches busted for buying drugs and hving sex with male escort.
hahaha
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Cupcake you are a little weasel go away!
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Come on. Buy in. It’s cheap. Two for the price of one. No! Make that three for the price of one. Father, son and holy ghost. So much man…
Everyone loves a good old fashioned church scandle nikkiee. That story was begging to be leaked..didn’t you see his sinful lips working their pretty lies? Jesus is staying put and a pretty face along with some good detective work won’t change that.
Come on “Nowtheworld” so on and so on…
You were the one who wrote of “satire”, surely you understand it when you see it then right?
Let’s try and get you saved!!!!
And I don’t even have a dick…unless you are speaking on an evoloutionary level then I suppose I do in a way…hmmmmm. Yes, I think I do have one! Maybe I am a Christian after all!!!!!!
Wanna buy a bag of pills?
Love,
Cupcake
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Sorry it was all my “selfish gene” being activated. Fight or flight. I am just a lonely boozer who can’t spell trying to show off on-line because I am too ugly to show my face in public.
Love,
Cupcake
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That man in the sky Cookie talks about,I know him, that’s Santa . I like him, which is strange because jolly old fat men with beards who are always trying to get kids to sit on their laps normaly creep me out ,but he brings me candy and cleans the fireplace out pretty good once a year,so he’s O.K. by me. Cupcake if you know where I can get a dick too please spill the beans!!!!They’ve always looked like so much fun to own.
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The Cupcake is a real wanker.
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Share, dam you ,don’t be selfish!
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I may just, technically, be an irish kid of the age of 15, but if god is perfect,, why would he feel the need to create anything, much less an imperfect world? If to be perfect is to be complete in every sense, then why would he feel the desire to create, and why would he feel the need to tempt his people. To me this suggests either sadism , or really having nothing better to fdo with his time. If anyone wants to hear of anymore arguments against God(s) i’ve got a few more cooking here. And by the way, in case you haven’t noticed,im not tryinfg to offend your beliefs, these are merely my own. Thank you. And (i know i shouldn’t start a sentence with it, but who cares?) who gave you the right to assume that people of an intelligent nature wouldn’t have time for a joke? That is highly offensive and blatantly incorrect
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Oh Penne, you’re sweet. We all have a penis. I swear we do. Check out the female spotted hyena and you will know what I mean. We all have one. Girls just have a smaller one. And I love presents too and I will do ANYTHING to get them. I mean ANYTHING!!!!! So yes, santa all the way. I am going to ask for two goats and whole cookie jar full of meth. And a peddal car for a 110 pound alcoholic adult (me).
And I AM a wanker Mad John Kidd!!! You are right. But wait, can a girl be a wanker?
Love,
Cupcake
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Eye gouger…you are a brilliant person. Good work. I agree 100 percent as I am sure many others do. I decided a long time ago I have little time for anything but jokes and I do enjoy offending beliefs. Don’t be like me, you will get much farther and get more people to listen by being diplomatic. Your ideas are wonderful and (in my opinion) true.
Love,
Cupcake
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You don’t just love me cos im irish, cupcake? :P thnks btw. Now i’m Blushing. lol
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I saw that show about the spotted hyena, but she still got screwed in the end-pun-pun-
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never saw her give any back either.
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@Your all just KIDS.
So? I am a kid. I know many Pastafarian’s are adults too. (Did you believe in a god when you were a kid? assuming the fact that you aren’t still one. ( but with that grammer its hard to tell))
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@always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
I didn’t point a finger? Did anyone else? Also I am better, at grammer at least.
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@when you realize what you are doing wrong its going to be to late.
To late for what? Going to a magical land in the clouds, filled with togas, harps, and rules? Sounds fun… I’d rather there be no afterlife then go to that horrible place. (By the way they can go in those clouds now, there aren’t any harps.)
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@FSM is nothing more than that of which it is.
What the hell are you talking about? Ever heard of proof reading?
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@And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.
Did anyone say that? I don’t think so. (Also I really enjoyed your “GOD” statement, the all capital letters thing really tells me alot about your character. (Hint- All of it is bad!)) Also that ellipsis used to make a dramatic pause really helped your argument of random accusation based on no proof. (Hmm sort of like your religion, eh? (yes I am Canadian))
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@you have no faith. You probably cant even tell me what faith means.
I’m glad i have no faith its completely based on speculation. Idiots hoping for a a fairy tale they heard as a kid to come true. Faith- belief that is not based on proof, there! All the proof you could come up with beaten by six words. (not to mention the million of pages of proof proving evolution)
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Sorry in my last paragraph I put “i” not “I”. Also I put a double “a” in between “for” and “fairy”. Please forgive me my Noodly Lord.
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In the Name of Noodles.
Merciful Lord of Tomato Sauce.
RAmen
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Its You’re not Your.
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no you are finger pointing– not us
it is called a civil right- freedom of thought etc– read up on it
and I am a kid at heart but in a middle aged body– wanna see my noodly wrinkles?
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no……..no,no, no
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Yup. We’re all kids. You got us. First of all, let me clean up your beautifully *cough* typed paragraph.
“You’re all just KIDS.
You are always pointing fingers and trying to be better.
When you realize what you are doing wrong, it’s going to be to late.
FSM is nothing more than that of which it is.
And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.
You have no faith. You probably cant even tell me what faith means.
-Crulix ”
First of all, what does finger pointing have to do with all this? Generally, when someone points fingers, it means they are blaming someone else. Next, we aren’t trying to prove that FSM is better (even though it is). Yes, I already found out that I should really be doing my homework, and yes it is already too late to change that fact. But no, our beliefe in FSM is totally right on. I really have no idea what your next sentence meant. And yes, God already lost. We do have faith, lots of it, and yes i can tell you what faith is. According to http://www.m-w.com, faith is an “allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY ”
RAmen, Crulix you dumbass
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Hey guys…stop bashing Crulix. It’s not his fault he is a religous nutter. He might have very low thought process and reasoning ability, parents that beat him savagely and installed the false god into his childhood psyche, or a large bell mounted on top of his head that rings every five seconds as so he can’t think about all the flaws in his ridiculous religion. WWFSMD? I think FSM would try to show love for those of lower thought process…so, instead of attacking crulix and trying to explain things to him he can’t possibly understand, let’s just show him a little love.
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You are just a KID Crulix: a Killing, Idiot, Dumb-non-believer-who-shall-eternally-be-smitten-by-his-not-so-saucy-appendage.
Unless you let him forgive you for your anti-pasta sins.
RAmen.
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“And if you really think FSM can beat GOD…it already lost.”
Hey look! He affirms the exitance of FSM!
Praise be to pasta of all kinds!
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The definitions of faith in my opinion
1. putting all hope in somebody who isn’t there
2. though not completely shure, making sure that things will go your way
3. rejecting all science for a god who was invented by man many years ago
The faith i have is put into the scientists, not the bigoted pastors
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I agree with that, we’re all just KIDS of FSM..
Also I bet you can’t even tell me what satire means.
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@ jesus christ — of faith
“I don’t need faith, I have experience.” — Joseph Cambell
This experience comes from science.
RAmen
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You know, you can’t call evryone here kids if you haven’t met each and everyone on this site. It’s not wise to make such completely wrong statements, or use incorect grammar.
As for what you said, FSM never tried to provoke a fight with your god. In this case it seems like you, representing your faith and your god, have tried to start a fight with us, FSM and the Pastafarians.
heck, for all we know God and FSM may be best friends, may hate each other, or one/neither may exist. Plenty of people have already defined faith, but here’s my two bits:
Faith is a devotion to something, and a willingness to stand up for it no matter what other people say or what proof the bring forward to thwart you. Happy?
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Faith; noun 1) strong belief in something, esp. without proof. 2) a specific system of religious beliefs.
There, how was that for a definition of what faith is? The only Truth is the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Everything in nature mimics the Flying Spaghetti Monster and His Noodly Appendages! All hail the FSM!
RAMEN!
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ahh, well …i guess some of us still need to impose our opinions on others, if u do have faith in god, why not in humans? we can make our own decisions …all hail him the almighty
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oh and why would calling us “kids” be an insult… i wonder can u comprehand that it doesnt matter what age u are… it is still feasible for children to have faith…becuase they dont know any better…ingorance is bliss…innoccent
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@Crulix
What’s yor problem?
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dear Crulix, if you believe in 4 kids from palestine (2000 years ago), why we can’t believe in FSM?
Is this less real?
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don’t mind this guy who calls us all kids. it’s really not his fault. there are plenty of smart people who are christians (I know, it’s hard to believe). the difference between us and them quite often is our upbringing. think of religion as a syndrome; something which affects people at birth and stays with them their whole lives. it’s like a blindfold, and it’s scary…against all reason, against all the truth which is standing right in front of them, religious people will do just ignore it, like how a 2-year-old will put his fingers in his ears, stomp his feet and scream “NO! NO! NO! NO!”
and the best part about FSMism is that, like all religions, it can’t be proven to be untrue! it holds as much actual truth as christianity, or any other religion. rock on.
Faith –
1) Belief in something when there’s no proof to uphold this belief.
2) Bullshit.
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@dafsaefweafewfw
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Actually, quite a lot of pastafarians were brought up under other religions. once they saw that those religions were, well, bullcrap, they decided to leave. other than that, your post was quite accurate.
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the main reason people believe other religions is because they were indoctrinated by their parents, school or any other people with a large infulence over their life (and hence now the precentage of people who believe in the main religions is falling). With FSMism, there is no indoctrination, people make up their own mind.
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@ “God”
hence where the term, “Blind faith” comes from. Which is why I believe that if anyone is going to follow any religion, in order to truly believe it, one must first find out what else is out there. “Because Mommy told me so” is never a good reason to base your life around something. My parents never took me to a church, synogogue, etc. I had to decide for myself what was right or wrong. That’s the way it should be. If you come to the conclusion that FSMism makes the most sense, then you are free to follow it as you wish. Just so long as you aren’t doing it to follow someone else who seems to know what they’re doing.
I don’t believe in FSM, but I understand the cause of it’s followers. Although I think that people should be able to believe in what they want.
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@God & Cindy: I believe that I will raise my children Roman Catholic as a means of providing a strong moral standard. I will encourage them to explore other faiths, and like me they may end up here. I myself was raised Roman Catholic and studied other religions including Budism, Judaism, and Norse. I don’t think blind faith is bad as a starting point as long as there is acceptence and willingness to learn.
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As a means of a belief structure I feel religion can be very dangerous, but as a means of culture and morals there is little better. For every fanatic out there – no matter what religion – there is at least two people doing good. That is where I see the benifit of a structured church.
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All I have to say is define faith…
Faith is a belief, trust, or confidence, not based merely on logic, reason, or empirical data, but based fundamentally on volition often associated with a transpersonal relationship with God, a higher power, a person, elements of nature, and/or a perception of the human race as a whole. Faith can be placed in a person, inanimate object, state of affairs, proposition or body of propositions such as a religious creed.
I can go into detail, but doesn’t that say that if you have to have faith, you have to be illogical?
YOU ILLOLGICAL CREATURE OF AN UNSEEN CREATURE!!!
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!!!
*Praise to FSM*
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Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m relatively certain that faith is an old wooden ship from the civil war era.
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“You can’t even tell me what faith means”
Definitions
1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief, trust.
3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one’s supporters.
4. often Faith Christianity The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God’s will.
5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
6. A set of principles or beliefs.
Synonyms
Absolute certainty in the trustworthiness of another: belief, confidence, dependence, reliance, trust. See belief
Mental acceptance of the truth or actuality of something: belief, credence, credit. See opinion
A system of religious belief: confession, creed, denomination, persuasion, religion, sect. See religion
Those who accept and practice a particular religious belief: church, communion, denomination, persuasion, sect. See religion
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ooh, nice way to shoot down insult joe ! (:
and why does every single christian/atheist who comes on this site have to yap his mouth about we are stupid/wrong. do we pastafarians go to christan site and type insult about christianity?? no. we don’t. leave us alone or we will be forced to have some serious action! i don’t mean war. war is against FSMism.
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You’re right, I have no faith. People like you made me lose it.
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Faith is believing in something no matter how outrageous and idiotic it is. And religion is VERY outrageous and idiotic.
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faith is simply manifest delusion……..you arrogant twat.
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Paul M.
Windsor, Ontario
Canada…skepticuss advcati.
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