Please do not take any offensive “hate mail” written by Christians as an example of Christianity. We are not very good Christians; we who use words of hate. You must understand, however, that you have completely pissed us off. This site is just stupid. The concept is stupid. I can give you evidence against evolution if you so desire.
I do sort of agree that ID should not be taught in schools, but neither should evolution. It is wrong that evolution, classified as SCIENTIFIC THEORY, is taught as a fact. Teaching evolution in schools is just as offensive to us as teaching ID in schools is to you. We are all people.
The majority of Christians do not want to press our beliefs upon anybody else. The same cannot be said for scientists, it appears. Plus, while Christians want to bring wayward people to God for the wayward people’s sake, scientists want to study and elaborate on evolution because they think they can discover something wonderful and get rich off of it. So, there is still a difference between the two sides.
I think this whole fight is futile. It is written that God’s children will be hated by all, and I can see that’s the way it’s going. Everybody hates Christians…
-Yet Another Christian
To all the incredibly dense, uneducated Christians who continuously post on this site:
1. I am not referring to all Christians in this post, because I realize that there are a good number of Christians that understand what a scientific theory is, and do accept evolution. However, these are not the Christians that generally post on this site.
2. Look up the definition of scientific theory. It is not just some random idea with no evidence to back it up. It is a natural explanation of natural phenomena.
3. ID is not a scientific theory for two reasons:
(a) it is a supernatural explanation of natural phenomena.
(b) it does not provide any testable hypotheses.
4. Most of what gets taught in science classrooms are scientific theory. One obvious example is the theory of gravity. We observe that when you drop something, it falls with a constant acceleration. This is a natural phenomenon. The theory of gravity is a natural explanation of this natural phenomenon. I could argue that there are invisible faeries pushing objects to the earth, and you would not be able to prove me wrong. My “faerie theory of gravity” is not a scientific theory, however, for the same reason that ID is not a scientific theory.
5. The whole point of FSM is as a satire of ID as an alternative to natural selection. It points out what is wrong with ID in a science classroom in an amusing way. On the surface, ID might look like science, but it is not.
@Physics Wench
“The theory of gravity is a natural explanation of this natural phenomenon.”
Ahh…but..
Warning: Gravity is “Only a Theoryâ€
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p67.htm
ah, I see…gravity is based on “fringe mathematics” and is therefore not a valid theory….it makes perfect sense now….calculus is a flawed branch of mathematics, and tensors are obscure, therefore gravity doesn’t exist. QED
@Physics Wench
“Mathematics is an atheist lie”
http://www.hearty.plus.com/bumblism/maths.html
RAmen ;)
Hmm…think that should be
“….are an atheist lie”
“You must understand, however, that you have completely pissed us off.” “Everybody hates Christians…”
aaaw sounds like the christian mafia meets up with sulky teenage kid!
May the sauce be with you all…
you know you are wastin your time here getting angry over nothing? its like having a blog on wether the us forces should leave iraq… lol you can vent off as much anger and opinions about it too. but you have no power even if you all say yes the us forces should leave iraq only the ppl higher up make the decisions and they might not agree with you.. all you people are doing is spreading anger and hate about each other over religion.. good job… talk about forgive your enemy… i see jesus taught you all very well…
@lloll
It’s a computer, not a ‘phone. You can use long words, punctuation, all sorts of things to aid understanding :)
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1) Who is the post aimed at?
2) What does the post say?
3) Does it matter?
@Yet Another Christian (although, this is old, he’s probably gone now eh?)
Saying that everyone hates Christians is interesting… we tend to judge others based on our own ideas and principles, rather than on their actual actions. For example, the person who thinks everyone is spreading malicious gossip about him and talking about him all the time, is generally much more guilty of such behavior than the people he is accusing. So for you to assume that everyone hates you because of your beliefs makes me wonder how you feel about others of different faiths. I don’t hate anyone because of what they believe. I might disagree strongly, I might even hate the institution that perpetuates those beliefs, but the individuals I try to “judge” based on their personal merits. One of my very best friends is Catholic (not practising, though, I don’t think), and while I disagree strongly with almost everything the Catholic church stands for, my friend herself is a wonderfully smart and funny person.
Don’t assume that everyone hates you because of your faith… it only makes you look like a rather negative, hateful person yourself, and highlights your seemingly bigoted attitude towards others. Maybe people just hate you because of your nonexistent sense of humor, or maybe because you are a whiny self-indulgent little person?
@Batman - yeah, but it does you good to get it out :)
@Alchemist
What gets out? I am a little slow this morning (who am I kidding, it is almost 1pm), I need things explained to me. =S
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I think the guy who wrote this needs some therapy maybe… sounds like he suffers from low self-esteem. Hmmmm… maybe he should read “I’m OK, You’re OK”… ha ha ha ha… might help him a bit.
If ANYBODY gives me evidence against Darwinian evolution and evidence for christianity, that I can understand and cannot immeadiatly see anything wrong with it, I might convert. E-mail it to me. But you won’t need my e-mail. Or post it up on here.
This site is the biggest waste of “thought”, time, and effort. What is the point of have two factions of opposing views arguing their already implied opinions fruitlessly? No one on this site is going to change their mind anytime soon. Die hard christians can be ignorant, and so can die hard FSM members. just quit it.
this is about our children’s education not the bones we have to pick for whatever reason. if your family doesn’t hold evolution to be valid does it hurt to have them still know about it? same goes for intellegent design, it’s not a science class, just offer it as a unit religious studies class, as evolution is a unit in a biology class
Jellybones Aug 1st, 2007 at 1:22 pm
“This site is the biggest waste of “thought”, time, and effort.”
In your opinion!
“What is the point of have two factions of opposing views arguing their already implied opinions fruitlessly?”
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You suggest no discusssion of opposing views should ever be held? You prefer guns maybe?
I come here because this site makes me smile. If you look around you can see it’s FULL of thought, and actually some very intelligent people….err…
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scratch that….
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It’s full of some very intelligent pirates!!
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rAmen
is the pirates vs. ninjas issue adressed by pastafarianism?
There’s a link for it on the main page. Wellington Grey provides very compelling evidence that pirates would in fact win in a battle against ninjas. Although my initial thought would be opposite of that, I had absolutely no doubts after reading the Gospel.
RAmen
@Jellybones
¨this is about our children’s education not the bones we have to pick for whatever reason. if your family doesn’t hold evolution to be valid does it hurt to have them still know about it? same goes for intellegent design, it’s not a science class, just offer it as a unit religious studies class, as evolution is a unit in a biology class¨
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Would you advocate the teaching of something that has its main ideas falsified, as is the case with ID. We don´t teach the earth is the flat, immoveable centre anymore either. ID is on the same level.