I found this hate-comment left in response to the fsm protest in london post:
Not a religious message, but just a comment on how truly, astoundingly, sadly pathetic you are. If you’ve got a problem with creationism, then why not attack it in a vaguely sensible way, with intellectual criticism? All you’re doing is offending people, and providing money for a guy who can’t be bothered getting off his arse to get a job, so comes up with this instead. Just pathetic.
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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it’s not that I can’t be bothered to get a job, so much as work sucks.
Brother, can you spare a penne?
I like what Rob has done, It is simple enough a parody of religion and the belief in God. Due to its comical nature it has probably got to more people than an intelligently put letter.
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I don’t know if anyone here is from the UK but simply put an entire generation or three learned politics from a show called “spitting Image” this is what the FSM site is for religion.
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“Spitting image” is highly thought of in this country, as I believe the FSM site will be in a number of years. And if Robb makes money off it more power to him. Lets face it how many priests are making money from peddling lies?
The whole movement IS the critical argument. Its very existance is by design a criticism of the fundamental arguments used by “Intelligent Design” advocates, or, more specifically, their supporters in the Kansas School Board. It’s inherant absurdity coupled by the use of arguments identical in logical structure to that of Intelligent Design points out the problems with their arguments. It will go over the heads of those unaccustomed to logic outside of Spock’s frequent references to it in Star Trek.
I wonder if other authors and self-employed creative people are also to be counted as people who ‘can’t be bothered getting off [their] arse[s] to get a job’.
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(Why do I try to find sense in these posts? Why, why?)
The Holy See had an income of over $203,000,000 in 2000 (the latest estimate I can find) with a net gain of $8,500,000 after “expenses”, according to the Vatican . I am sure the televangelist Protestant Christian Right can top that with one grubby hand tied behind their backs. Religion is big business.
“And if Robb makes money off it more power to him. Lets face it how many priests are making money from peddling lies?”
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And I don’t think a child has ever been molested in the name of the FSM.
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“The whole movement IS the critical argument. Its very existance is by design a criticism of the fundamental arguments used by ‘Intelligent Design’ advocates,”
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Uh oh. Does this mean FSM is an argument for ID? I thought the FSM was evidence for unintelligent design.
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OEJ
I think that since FSM, by it’s nature, attracts intelligent “followers”, it will never generate a huge income. We have sold a lot of those FSM car emblems, though.
I love the FSM. I am a chemistry PhD student and I recoil at most religions, finally something I can truly believe in.
Ramen
“Religion has become free enterprise … religion is therefore free to be sold, like soap flakes … preachers, standing up and saying ‘come to my church’, another one says ‘no, come to my church’, knowing of course that the more people they can get into their church, the more of those fat tithes they can get, tax free” - Richard Dawkins
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Coincidentally, I found that series of quotes in a Dawkins radio interview that I was chopping into soundbites for a music project that I’m working on, just this evening.
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Mysterious noodly ways, guys.
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Speaking of which, I’m thinking of working on a couple of sea-shanty-noodly-hymns to share with the converted. Anyone want to provide some words?
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Davey, currently between contracts and therefore slacking off in the studio.
@henderob:
When I bought my new Smart back in July, the FSM badge was on it before it even left the dealership. Arrrrhhh, ’tis a pirate Smartie now!
I’m just frustrated that I don’t have the gonads, time, and creative genius to have thought of something like the FSM myself.
Davey, that’s a *fantastic* idea. We need divine shanty-hymns. (I was looking at your website today. Looks like you’ve got the gear for the job…)
(Oh, Davey - just don’t be a-looking at the BLR posts while being musically creative. Please.)
Chemistry PhD student doesn’t imply smart. It implies “I study a lot of Chemistry.” It doesn’t factor into a discussion of religion any more than my venereal disease. Maybe even less.
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Also, $8.5 Million profit for an organization as large as the Catholic church is nothing. You can’t pretend that these people are just in it for the money.
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It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.
How bout all those companies run under a religious name, profiting from the tax ecempt status so afforded?
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In Australia, one off the largest cereal producers, Sanitarium, is affiliated with the Seventh Day Adventist church. As a result, this multi-million dollar organisation pays zero tax.
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Sound pious, don’t they?
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A chemistry PhD student should not be sniffed at, either. In Australia at the least, it requires a minimum of 6-7 years to complete (disregarding an accelerated honours degree). In this time, they have to make some noticeable contribution to the field of chemistry to justify their awarding of the PhD. That is not so easy a task as might be assumed.
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Finally, you should maybe get yourself to a clinic, if you have a venereal disease. Those things can be nasty.
I never said that nobody makes any money off religion. I said that $8.5 Million profit for an organization with some 2Billion members is nothing.
Christians, because many can be overly trusting and willing to support what they see as Christian endeavours, are easy prey for scammers masquerading as Christian organizations.
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Seventh Day Adventist Church ==> David Koresh ==> Massacre at Waco
They have a history of questionable behavior. I haven’t read up on them that much, but I don’t doubt what you say. I would expect that a little more research on the foundations of that particular church would be interesting.
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The reason the chemistry PhD student should be sniffed at is because his post had an air of entitlement to it. The topic is religion. He throws his (pending) PhD in chemistry as if it somehow gives him some cred. I don’t question his expertise in the field of chemistry. No doubt he has handled many more test tubes than me. What I am saying is that his background in chemistry in no way equips him to make sound desicions about religion, and he thinks it does.
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I suspect that he is American, because up here, we like to pat ourselves on the back. Everyone thinks they are something special.
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And I went to the clinic. They said it should clear up within two weeks.
We only offending people who come into our church and attack our belief. They are free game for all!!!
As for getting off one’s arse to get a job - that sounds like hard work.
Lastly, Make your mind up! Are we sadly pathetic or just pathetic??
Confused.
If one takes a decent look around this site, one would notice that Intellectual Criticism plays a major part in the ID debate. Sadly, however, most ID supporters would rather not deal with such logic, so this presents us with the other option of meeting them on their own turf by combining Intellectual Criticism with a Big Invisble Monster similar to the one ID supporters employ.
You’re just jealous that our Big Invisible Monster tastes better than yours.
RAmen St John
“and providing money for a guy who can’t be bothered getting off his arse to get a job”
Welcome to the modern world. It’s probably the dream of every man alive to be able to middle finger his boss and go home and not be bothered to get off one’s arse to get a job.
It’s called: “what’s the point, I’m making someone else richer, kill me now”
But hey, if you think it’s pathetic, keep your 9 to 5 and don’t forget to go to church on Sunday. Also please make sure you children know that
1) jesus is for real.
2) santa is not real, that’s just a superstition.
But don’t mention both in the same sentence, it could trigger frowning and worse: thinking.
“What I am saying is that his background in chemistry in no way equips him to make sound desicions about religion, and he thinks it does.”
I’d agree if we were talking Theology - an academic subject, and one very different to chemistry. But were not; were talking religion, a concept which by definition is open to all.
As a masters/honours degree graduate, and a prospective PhD, you can be pretty certain that he’s proficient at logical and rational thought. If that doesn’t make him qualified to have an opinion, or make ’sound decisions’ on religion when billions of morons apparently are then I don’t know what would!
OMFSM.
Who is this faghetti guy?
and by the way, do you have a PHD in Chemistry? hmm?
I am a firm believer in “shut up if you don’t know”‘ theory. Have you heard of it? Faghetti..let me break it down…if you don’t have a phd in chemistry, don’t knock those that do.
stop bringing down my FSM beer volcano buzz!
really…
Also, i am not pathetic… I don’t get fleeced for hundreds of thousands of dollars to build a huge worship centre, i spend my money on helping people. Bob does have a job..of sorts…he is our prophet. didn’t you get the memo?
And further more, I am not committing heinous acts in the name of my beliefs, there is no war currently being fought on his noodly behalf, except the carb no carb debate, but no one has died over it…
People who come here for the right reasons are not pathetic, they are enlightened and not satisfied with the beliefs of the masses.
pathetic? I think not.
My hat is off to you Bob…thank you for your work.
We are attacking ID with intellectual critism, or haven’t you read all these posts? We’re just having a blast with it as well, and the funny stuff attracts way more people than a research sounding thing would. And how dare you insult our prophet?! His courage and creative geious has started a movement, allowing fellow pastafarians to come outof the dark after so long. Finally, Faghettini, he wasn’t using the Ph.D to imply he was an authority on this subject, but rather that he was not one of the illiterate noobs who send hate mail to this site.
Don’t you just love it when a christian has the gall to criticize anyone’s religion for making money. Christian churches exist by fleecing the flock.
We started out trying sense and reason. For some reason it didn’t work. I postulate that there is a correlation here but am too polite to state it.
“It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…”
Actually, I think it’s the truly intelligent who realize humor is one of (if not the) most important things in life. If you can’t laugh, why bother living?
Basically you have to laugh or you’d spend all your time crying!
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If religion is so important then why don’t you defend it is a … what was your words… vaguely sensible way. So far I have yet to hear anything that I would not have said as a 12 year old.
Yo ho ho me hearty’s,
Well shiver me timbers blah blah blah!!!
What a great idea, anythings got to be better than that bollocks they’re giving out about God,Jesus,Buddha,Allah etc etc.
If they’re all so fucking wonderful and mighty, why aren’t they down here dealing with all these godforsaken murderers,rapists and peodiphiles that are on the loose??
All these super religeons need to stop fiddling with each other before preaching about sins etc. Get a fucking grip and smell the coffee. They’re not real,they’re not coming, and theve done nothing to impress anybody in shit knows how long.
Wakey wakey world,stand by your beds because if the devil doesn’t get ya the fsm will.
Go in peace and get a fucking grip!!!!
Luv & hugs ya all xxxx
since you appear totally ignorant of sensible and intelligent argument, read books written by Victor J. Stenger. FSM is for pathetic people like you who lacks enough intelligence to comprehend Stenger, you idiot!
Dumpling, who is that directed at? I am pathetic (either sadly pathetic or just pathetic - not sure which).
May you be touched by His Noodley Appendage!
Sorry, RAT, it was directed at whoever wrote the essary “sadly pathetic”
Hi, Davey. Here’s a wee attempt at a verse and chorus.
Oh praised be His Noodly Greatness,
His divine Pastafarian Tasteness,
To warm pirate seas from lands so frigid,
Find we strippers and beer, by the hand of a midget,
Sing Arrr! Sing Arrr! Sing Arrr!
How about we just steal (a very piratish thing to do) the Veggie Tales’ song, “Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything”. I find something very poetic about stealing a song from Veggie Tales for the FSM.
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OEJ
Pathetic??
Don’t repress my culture, man.
Seriously, I’m wounded…Hurt my God and you hurt me.
If you want intelligent criticism of your religion it is VERY easy to find. I at least expect that you apply the same standard when you criticise mine.
Faghettini.
Use the healing sauce, applied liberally to the affected area (your own meatballs) divine resolution should be swift and impart a delicious tomatoey aroma to your dealings and sexual encounters over the coming days.
“If you’ve got a problem with creationism, then why not attack it in a vaguely sensible way, with intellectual criticism?”
Yes intellectual criticism works so well with those who want to teach faith in our school. If things like mere intellectual criticism and scientific evidence worked ID would just go away like it should.
Come on, pastafarians! Play fair and pick a harder target to satirize. The Christians who choose to believe Intelligent Design have a lot more courage than you, because they force themselves to believe in something despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. They deserve respect for the sheer act of will they put out to have faith. I think you’re secretly uncomfortable with your own religious beliefs, so you ridicule their difficult-to-hold faith because it threatens your own (easy to believe) scientific views. Pathetic - it’s like uncomfortable adolescents who make fun of their parents in an attempt to be cool. Grow up and learn to be tolerant!
What, you think it doesn’t take courage to believe in the FSM? I am hurt and insulted that question my religion and belittle it! How dare you even question my religion! The only proper response would be to burn you at the stake as a heretic… yes, that should do nicely.
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OEJ
Reductio ad absurdum
You understand that, you understand why.
RAmen
S-C… the reason many of us are here is because we worry about the future of education.
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The cause for our worry is the Christians who spout intelligent design as viable science.
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They accuse us of heresy, damn us to an eternity of torture, insult our creed, past-times and some peoples sexual preferences (also in several cases, confusing us with bundles of sticks used for firewood; go figure).
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You say they deserve respect for their faith… I say they deserve what they get for their complete lack of manners, spelling, or common decency.
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Also, unlike them, we have the courage and will to make our own decisions, rather than following the religion instilled in us from birth.
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Finally,
“…like uncomfortable adolescents who make fun of their parents in an attempt to be cool”
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Please, don’t ever call us emo’s.
@Scientific-Christianspouter
“….Christians who choose to believe Intelligent Design have a lot more courage than you…”
* Where I grew up we call desperation courage. What we call courage is ….well more like facing reality and dealing with it.
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“….so you ridicule their difficult-to-hold faith because it threatens your own (easy to believe) scientific views…”
We ridicule people who consider intelligent design as science. Really that just shows ignorance about…….well everything in the real world. May your imaginary friends comfort you.
Yet another christian who seems to be very confused about the difference between beliefs and facts.
We shall pray for you. (See we have beliefs too!)
RAmen
edit nikkiees post “we DON’T call desperation courage”
I used to think this was another act of religous despration like Intelligent Design, but now i have been converded, on internationl talk likea pirate day i noticed it was slightly cooler that the day before! Hail FSM!
You are right. I live in constant fear that if I stop believing in gravity I will drift ever upwards until I pop.
Stop threatening my science, man.
An ideal God, of course, would keep me grounded with a Noodly Appendage. Smells nice too….Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!..
I stoppped believing in gravity years ago. It was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders.
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ba dum bah!
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OEJ
^I tried very hard not to laugh. I failed.
On the subject of courage being believing in something with overwhelming evidence against it, I really don’t get why anyone could possibly call that worthy of respect. There isn’t really anything as solid to go on with Intelligent Design, or indeed any religion, as there is with the theory of evoloution. I Certainly wouldn’t critisize anyone who makes an opinion supporting this evidence let alone saying that they we are secretly uncomfortable with your own religious beliefs.
P.S Being born into a society in which Christianity in the main belief. Now then Christianity is hard not to believe in.
“….Christians who choose to believe Intelligent Design have a lot more courage than you…â€
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I don’t know what planet you are living on but Belief in something without supporting evidence does not equil courage, no matter what the Church tells you.
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Faith is not courage it is cowardice, not facing what is the truth it complete and utter Cowardice. Courage is facing the truth no matter how hard and nasty it gets.
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Putting you big fat melon head into the sand and screaming the world is a Just place the world is a just place, will not make the world a just place. The only thing that will make the world a just place is if you morons got off your arses and made it so.
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Join us, I am not going to lie to you and say that being an atheist is easy but facing up to the truth and still being able to act in a moral way is enough reward. 60 years of trying to make the world a better place and not just hoping some magical being in the sky will put everything to right at the end of days is better then a billian years in heaven!
That’s bad, OEJ, just terrible.(loud groan) still, christians do put a lot of effort into believing what they do. Either that or none at all, depends on how you look at it.
“If you’ve got a problem with creationism, then why not attack it in a vaguely sensible way, with intellectual criticism?”
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because theres already plenty of people doing that. =p
“Grow up and learn to be tolerant!”
I’m sorry. I can’t tolerate this.
You have to understand… I love this country. People who lead it have done bad things, but the general concept is so beautiful, and so many good things and people have come from the hard-won liberties and freedoms with which my beloved Constitution has endowed us. Now, I know that at times the Constitution has required a different interpretation than originally conveyed, because we are enlightened to the point of considering women, Native Americans, and dark-skinned humans as people… something that was missing from the founding fathers’ philosophy. But it has always been clear about the separation of church and state… and there are extremely good reasons.
Both my children and I have been taught that no one knows exactly how the spark of life on earth began, but we do know it evolved from that original form to create the world we know today. And that in a nutshell is the theory of evolution.
I will never, ever support any theological viewpoint being taught in science class. It goes against the Constitution. And thus, I remain intolerant of the Christian push to subjugate science to their agenda.
It’s un-American, and I cannot, and will not ever, tolerate it.
Using Satire is actually a tried and tested way of making people take notice of you view point. It has been used by some of the greatist philosophers and if it is good enough for Socrates (the earliest great Atheist philosopher) then it is good enough for me.
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Socrates died for his beliefs he had every chance to either run or repent but he choice to stand by his principle, what makes him even greater was the fact he and people who believed in him where not arrogant enough to claim he died for other peoples sins!
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Great man!
And actually, Jonathan Swift was one of teh greatest satirists ever, and he made up whole worlds to prove his points (Read the whole of Gulliver’s Tarvels to see what I mean). Rob is just doing what Swift did before him, and I really admire him for that.
RAmen
lunchlady,
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Absolutely right! It’s only a matter of time before he’s sensibly suggesting that we eat our Irish children. More power to him!
“it’s not that I can’t be bothered to get a job, so much as work sucks.” Bobby Henderson
Not mine! C’mon back in and read with the little children!
I have an interview next week
Being vaguely sensible doesn’t get you noticed. And it’s not half as fun as being loud and obnoxious. :D
Religion is a weapon of war. and like many weapons of war, it makes big money!
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big money big money!
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probably one of the rare times i’m illogical and irrational, you know, maybe christians can better understand me. lalala.
yeah…
cuz i’d much rather give my money to some crazy imagrant that wont get off his lazy ass and do something for a country he shouldn’t be a part of in the first place!! gahd…much rather have my money go to a good cause.
RAmen.
An interview for a job? For a newspaper article? An Interview with a Vampire? How about an interview with a vam-pirate? I used to be a vampire for Halloween, or a pirate, it was always hard to decide, but maybe I could combine the two…
That would be really fun - an un-dead pasta-eating, beer-swilling pirate/wench!
Rob:
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Interview!?!
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With whom? (Like the proper use of grammer?
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Where/when can we see/read it?
Ha! Hahaha! Hahahaha! So it’s wrong to collect donations from followers and not work for a living? When was the last time you saw a Catholic Priest working a real job? Have you ever seen a Rabbi that moonlights as a cab driver? I find it utterly amazing that the religious freaks in this world cannot read the fine print, and also take things so seriously. The Bible all you Christians cherish is nothing more than an updated version of older myths and parables, written by man, not God, as a form of control. Plus, seeing how the God in the new testament was much more forgiving than the God of the Old Testament, I’m sure your Christian God, who’s nothing more than a rip-off of Zeus and Ra, is laughing at this whole thing himself and thinks it is great.
Maybe all the Christians offended by this to the point of anger and rage should take a pointer from Jesus Christ. You know, the person you all claim to follow and love and live you lives according to? And that pointer is that Anger and Wrath are wrong, and that you should turn the other cheek. Maybe instead of writing vicious emails about a joke you don’t get, you should just laugh and still live your Christian ‘holier-than-thou’ lives the way you want. Are Christians this terrified by a joke that they need to get so defensive? Maybe it’s a lack of faith in their Faith that’s the problem and not the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Oh, and a little background before you all call me a pagan heathen or something. I went to a catholic grammar school, was an alter boy from 2nd grade through 8th, and went to a Jesuit high school and a Jesuit run college. I’ve read the Bible, which is full of hypocrisy in itself, many books on morals and ethics, and been involved in many discussions about religion, and the only fact I’ve learned is that you can make a joke about anything, and no one minds, but religion is crossing the line.
Hypocrites the lot of you! Get a sense of humor and have some fun before you die! Laughter will keep you younger and happier than any book written by power hungry morons (The Bible) will.
except that Jesus isn’t always too great at following his own advice with that whole Anger being wrong thing, and he does on accasion treat non-israelis like sh**. He generally addresses his mother as “woman” and orders her around (what was that commandment about honouring your parents). He chases the moneylenders out of the temple with a bullwhip (isn’t giving into anger the same as comitting murder in your heart?). A caananite woman is forced to admit that she is a dog before Jesus will cure her son of a terminal illness. Jesus curses the inhabitants of two cities for not being sufficiently impressed with the miracles he performed (because, you know, the entire populace must have turned up to watch) and let’s not forget the fig tree incident. it wasn’t even the frikkin’ fig season and he destroys the tree for no damn reason at all. wouldn’t a loving messiah have used his power to make the trees bloom instead of cursing it to never again bear fruit?
Ok, Jesus did a fair bit of good as well, if you take all the accounts seriously. he just didn’t live the sinless life that many Christians claim he did.
Interview? But what about being done with our fair city? Damn; I should’ve read this before the dinner! (And did you appreciate how I didn’t goad the father-out-law into asking you about your intentions, given the general topic of conversation? You owe me! Everyone, don’t you think that Bobby should adopt his girlfriend’s beagle, name of Darwin?)
As soon as I have purchased all available FSM stickers, mugs, shirts, hats, posters, bobbleheads, shorts, pens, magnets, key tags, eye-glass cleaning cloths, stuffed animals (especially the midget doll), action figures and satin jackets, I plan on tithing my entire income to Bobby Henderson. FSM shall provide a devotee such as myself all of my basic needs (unless he decides not to).
Arrrrr! Ramen.
Ted Linguini,
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You are a true Pastafarian Monk. A Brother of the Seven Seas. I’d lend you my cutlass any day.
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Arrrrr
I’d realy like a wiggly FSM to dance away in the back window while I’m driving along. I’m sure the ‘jeebus’ people have got that sort of thing?
A nodding Jesus (or Cheezus, or just a variety of nodding cheeses) you mean?
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Yarr, I’d be lovin’ a wigglin’ FSM, too. I forsee a Saturday of experimentation with spagghetti an rear wind screens…
(And possibly an entire re-education in sspelinng.)
FSM bobble head for the dashboard. That’s what we need Nikkiee.
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OEJ
Yes. Our FSM artifacts should have motion to represent the true nature of His Nooldliness.
RAmen
Enjoy accuiring your penny stacks my noodly grateness,
for that is the pirate way, arrgh,
well done for giving us ‘pathtic’ pirate’s a voice,
the wold will soon feel the fsm’s wrath, hardy har har,
ta ta for now me harty sea dogs,
three cheers for the great noodly appendage,
Hip hip, Her-aghh,
Hip hip, Her-aghh,
Hip hip, Her-aghh,
p.s I agree me hartys,
Without motion my life would of been motionless,
Bring on those FSM bobble heads,
I’ll have a shipload… and I’ll capture the vessel that brings them in the name of pirates everywhere, arrgh
Berk said:
“Plus, seeing how the God in the new testament was much more forgiving than the God of the Old Testament, I’m sure your Christian God, who’s nothing more than a rip-off of Zeus and Ra, is laughing at this whole thing himself and thinks it is great.”
I have a theory; maybe the Christian God got pissed. For a good few years he was all “Look back and I’ll turn you into salt”, and now he’s saying “Here have my son. Even better Kill Him! That way you can all come into heaven as long as you’re sorry…”
One day he’ll sober up and start saying “You’re a gay Jew? No you’re a gay Christian? Christian? That’s not a religion, this keeps getting better… Jesus come and listen to this… Jesus?”
Then he’ll be really pissed. In an angry way, not a drunken way.
arrgh,
i see, i see, says i, says ee,
ee see’s, i see, ee see’s the sea,
the sea sees i and the sea see ee,
and the flying spagheetti monster see’s all!!!
hehehehe
Do not drink and post.
“Do not drink and post.”
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Awww… that takes all the fun out of it :(
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Btw, as an aside, I highly recommend arguing with a christian missionary on a bellyfull of beer.
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Imbibing the sacred liquid gives you unheard of stamina, an immunity to the mind numbing tedium of their argument, and an appreciative audience (or at least a bunch of people who like to laugh at the loud drunk man).
arghh,
eat drink and be merry my hearty seadogs,
pasta,rum and a sturdy vessle ….. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
p.s im with The Aussie,
sounds like a bloke after me own heart,
Old joke here that Aussie made me remember…
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Never go fishing with just one Christian. Always take at least two. A lone Christian will drink all your beer.
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OEJ
“Never go fishing with just one Christian. Always take at least two. A lone Christian will drink all your beer.”
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Reminds me of a scene from Clerks 2, where Wanda Sykes is raising hell and cussing.
Her husband asks “Girl, are you saved?”
She looks around and replies, “Aint nobody from my church in here.”
Ahoy there.
Good to see you have all maintained your sense of humor (mostly) in response to this idiots post. It’s a bit of a pity that the author or the original post we are so interseted in has not shown his/her face - Reason, where are you?
Anyway, in response to the remark about providing vaguely intellectual critisism, isn’t that what humorous parody is all about? It takes intelligence to put together a movement like this - without it the movement would be nothing more than a hate campaign - at least some thought has gone into this. I wish I could say the same about ID!
So the lesson is: never argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Peace, Ramen.
I love you guys…. in a strictly pirate spaghetti kinda way.
I may just, technically, be an irish kid of the age of 15, but if god is perfect,, why would he feel the need to create anything, much less an imperfect world? If to be perfect is to be complete in every sense, then why would he feel the desire to create, and why would he feel the need to tempt his people. To me this suggests either sadism , or really having nothing better to fdo with his time. If anyone wants to hear of anymore arguments against God(s) i’ve got a few more cooking here. And by the way, in case you haven’t noticed,im not tryinfg to offend your beliefs, these are merely my own. I do not wish to force mi beliefs on anyone, I merely seek an answer to my questions. thank you so very much. Cead Mile Failte and May the wind be ever at your back. Is this an intelligent enough response to your criticism?
I live in a gradually conservativeafiing neighborhood which used to be such a nice middle class neighborhood until a private school moved right next door. I have to admit I do feel a little threatened, I’m very outspoken. Roughly a week ago I was discussing FSM with a friend of mine who accepted Pastafarianism with open arms. Another person at my school overheard us and said “excuse me but I am very devote in my catholic beliefs!â€
To which I replied â€Ok…..I don’t believe in Catholicismâ€
He then proceeded to talk about how he would tie me to a metal stake that he was building, which he would of course fill with some flammable substance or another and how he would be sure to do outside to not get the smell in his house, because I was trying to force my beliefs onto him.
I don’t think I even need to talk about that.
Aren’t fundies such a fun bunch? Believe..or I’ll kill ya! Lurvely!
“If you’ve got a problem with creationism, then why not attack it in a vaguely sensible way, with intellectual criticism?”
Actually, that’s not a bad point, apart from:
1. How much intelligent athiest criticism have you read? there’s loads out there, but no one reads it.
2. Nothing pisses people off like ridicule.
3. Satire highlights how utterly ridiculous ID is, in a more public way than intellectual criticism.
4. Christians wouldn’t read it, or if they did, they wouldn’t understand it. Intellectual is a big word, dude.
Then there is the humour side of things!
The true sad, pathetic story here is that Creationists reject all intellectual criticism. I honestly repect and understand this form of constructive criticism, being more polite than most other “hate mail” (more like death threats). That’s the irony of creationism, it tries to pass itself off as science. Pathetic and ironic.
If Christians are offended by the holy FSM, GOOD. That’s the whole point of it. But you obviously can’t see that because you, like all creationists, are not an intelligent critic, asshole.