Please tell me this is all a huge joke.You cant realy believe that a huge thing of spaghetti created everything.If you realy do believe this then you’re all idiots and I’ll pray for you.
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
Awww a marriage… how romantic. You’ll need a pirate guard of honour, and a bouquet of noodles to throw, though.
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Que cheesy “love is in the air” music
Thanks Aussie. How would one(s) go about getting hitched with FSM? That is, assuming that Nikkiee wants to take the plunge. Hey Nikkiee! I would make a good husband! I am a good cook, and I am smrt. I can spel good, and I have all the “attributes” of a porn star. Ok, some of the attributes. But we can negotiate once we are hitched!!
@ Gill: (blush)
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@ Maxwell and Nikkiee: oooh (sorry:) Arrr! That’d make me sun-warmed day! A marriage of minds and a pledge between Pastafarians, with a cross-section of penne on the ring fingers (plus a fine piece of plundered booty for good meaure). I’d sing a shanty for ye, even though I’m known to kill deaf animals at five nautical miles through the tone of me salt-bitten voice. Here’s raising me grog to ye!
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@ The Aussie: on the crisis of faith: I know exactly how you feel. I can’t go on spending so much time here - I have my own life to sort out, and it’s going nowehere at present. After a point, you read the new posts and you think: we’ve done this argument. We’ve done it to death. Am I going to repeat it all over again, for someone else who’ll steer for the horizon when the waves get choppy?
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Maybe patient repetition is what successful missionaries are made of.
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I wonder whether we could persuade Bobby to put in a ‘Pre-Posted Pastafarian Pearls of (P)Wisdom’ page. We could edit the interruptions out of the best discussions we’ve had and put them on there. Or plunder the forums and cobble together the best answers we’ve got for the most commonly recurring issues. Then, instead of reasoning everything out over and over and over ad nauseum, we’d have a self-constructed resource to point people to.
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I tell you what, though. This place does sharpen your argumentative faculties. Like Davey suggested a week or so back, you can test and refine your anti-theistic armoury here. And maybe, when we’re just not learning anything new anymore - maybe we need to go out and meet ‘em face to face.
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Plenty of grog and booty on this here galleon, but I don’t be knowin that I’ve got all the answers. Trust to the FSM, say I.
Oh, everyone:
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Today, Ken Ham’s book Evolution The Lie arrived from Amazon, alongside three Richard Dawkins books that I haven’t read yet.
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I haven’t read it yet. But I flicked through to get the gist, reading the odd bits and pieces here and there and looking at some of the cartoons (yes, there are cartoons - it’s *that* intellectual).
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I’m not in a fair position to judge it yet. But, based on what I’ve seen: even the FSM, with His Divine Meatballs, must be gobsmacked by the sheer amount of bollocks in this book.
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Updates as and when.
…..I like cartoons……*cough* J, if you’ve got the time and you see anything good, would you mind posting some of the more stupid arguments up? I wanna stay on top of their arguments and all, heh.
Actually, that’s the most fustrating thing about this whole site…you spend a good few minutes typing up a wonderfully-put, smart answer to some ID’rs questions, and the next day some OTHER ID’r comes and asks the same questions all over again. I’m thinking of copy/pasting my answers into MS Word and then saving them, so I can just keep using the same responce over and over again.
@J
I’m getting married?
Maxwell, I will need to think on my answer carefully before I give it.
RAmen
ps Do you have a pirate ship?
BTW
I’m not sure which thread it was in now, but someone posted asking about papers on ID
so as to get a balanced idea of what both sides of the ID debate had to say.
I’ve searched the uni database for any of their articles published in a plethora of science journals and have come up empty handed. I found a few editorial articles responding to their ideas, but that’s all. It appears to that only places Behe and Dembski were published were in the Natural History Magazine and through their own books. The following article in Natural History Mag groups all (seemingly) their papers into one article.
NATURAL HISTORY MAGAZINE
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhmag.htm
To the person who put in the request: I hope you have found this post.
That link is no good. Here’s the site:
www.actionbioscience.org/evolution
Look in: Intelligent Design?
The few editorials I found in the science journals, all referenced the above article as the scource of Behe and Dembski publications. Both of these ideas men also provide a list of suggested reading and site links with each of their articles.
@gill
The above Natural History Magazine article also includes a response, to each of the ID presentations, form the other side.
It appears that this war the christians are fighting against science, exists only in their own minds. No doubt in my mind now that any excuse will do for the christians to try and start some sort of war with anyone, who they feel, doesn’t beleive in what they want.
MY closing arguement.
From the main “scientific” Creationist site
http://www.icr.org/articles/view/3103/
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Fighting Against the Forces of Darkness
by Lawrence Ford
“Although the theory of evolution might seem highly improbable, it [is] not impossible,†Dawkins reportedly declared to his audience. Forget the science; let’s talk about those right-wing Christians who believe in God and creation. ……
…..But is the Christian community prepared to discuss these larger issues of philosophy and worldview? The Enemy has no plans to step aside just because we have better scientific facts than they. He is committed to getting his message out to anyone who will listen.
Are you?”
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The enemy?? This is one example of how the rank and file are informed they are at war!
Can anyone make a connection between what Dawkins said:
“Although the theory of evolution might seem highly improbable, it [is] not impossible,â€
and this guys translation of it in his recruitment speech:
“Forget the science; let’s talk about those right-wing Christians who believe in God and creation.”
Now that is truly frightening…
The Discovery Institute claims to have several peer-reviewed journals as of December 2005 but most have little to do with design and do not show much in the way of original material.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI001_4.html
Thanks for thanks for that Mad John. I don’t know how many tens of thousands of jounals are on our database but no ID papers in them. I’ll check Discovery out!
Got that list. I’m familiar with most of those journals. I’ll check out the peer reviews of those papers when I get a chance.
OK! Your link negates the need to do that. Cheers.
nikkiee….
You may be interested in The Pandas Thumb review of Jonathan Wells latest piece of…whatever. The Politically Correct Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design. If you haven’t already seen it. Hillarious stuff.
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/08/the_politically.html
@nikkiee
“….I don’t know how many tens of thousands of jounals….”
My bad. Make that articles instead of “jounals”
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@Mad John Kidd
Always up for some humor. I’ll bookmark it for a free time slot.
RAmen