It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.
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“Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke,”
Thank you. I hate how people always think genuinely intelligent people like us have the time to process anything other than completely bare statements of fact. As if I could possibly dedicate my precious brain cycles to the terribly obfuscated idea behind the FSM. It would just take so much mind juice to even begin to think about it.
Just the other day, the following exchange took place between me and a good friend of mine:
Him: “Knock Knock!”
Me: “SHUT UP CAN’T YOU SEE I’M BEING GENUINELY INTELLIGENT”
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@Obscurans
“christian intelligenceâ€
Yet another oxymoron! There are so many good ones on this site.
RAmen
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@Opa-Opa
…Him: “Knock Knock! …
Who’s there?
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“Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke”
Jokes take no time at all. Either you get it or you dont. Then its funney or it isnt. I dont see as how the joke part takes any time at all. Or is it that intelligent people dont participate in jokes. Are you saying that all intelligent people are boring, glum and joke free?
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Hey F-!
You said the expertise of PhDs is narrow. They know about the field they have worked on, so why should they know more about religion than anybody else? This is your point, right?
So here is an answer. Getting a PhD is more than remembering random shit. Having a PhD means making a scientific carrier, specifying and in fact narrowing the field of work. When you do this, you get fucking aware of the fact that you cannot study the whole world, and you will stay ignorant in many respects. But why should this keep one from studiying, from trying to understand the world? The question is how to treat ignorance.
And this is the point where science and religion differ. Science accepts ignorance, religion does not. A scientist knows that he doesn’t know shit – but he also knows that he could investigate things and would, with patience, find out. For religious people, there is nothing you they don’t know (or, from the scientist’s view, they do not accept their ignorance and are too fucking lazy to switch on their brains). In religion, everything you don’t know – is GOD! (sorry, I of course would say the Spaghetti monster). By the way, in logic, you call this “argumentum ad ignorantiam”.
Believe what you want, but if you can switch on your brains and think about it… realize that religion and science are perspectives – and fucking are different.
Greetz, mopert!
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I heard einstien had a wicked sense of humour……look at the hair….nuff said…
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You specified intelligence. Do your responses mean everyone who does not study religion is unintelligent? And how many Christians do get a PHD in religion? I’m willing to bet that a lot of them choose other subjects. So what makes them more qualified than us?
Also, I’ve got to say that unintelligent people would go “lol, spagetti” and forget about the FSM. Intelligent ones would get the purpose and continue to be amused and support this new God.
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I agree with SaucyWench – I find Pastafarians to be seriously funny as well as seriously (or is that genuinely?) intelligent, as a whole. There are many witty folks hanging out here. Plus, there’s the fun of being a pirate.
lunchlady
PS Too bad you have to be a vegetable for Halloween at work, SaucyWench – I get to wear my full pirate regalia (well, except I have to leave my pistol and sword at home), and go to school and feed my students pasta!
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Tell you what. When you can present to me evidence that you are right, and FSM is wrong- then I will convert to whatever religion you are. But you have to present evidence against thousands of years of time that your religion didnt’ exist, present a logical explanation for the countless inconsistencies in your holy book, explain why your religion is “more” correct than the thousands of other religions that present the reason “because god said so”… actually… how about you just email me; I have a checklist.
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lunchlady, how lucky you are! Now wait a minute, though. Couldn’t I at least pay a little homage to His Noodliness and go as tomato or spinach pasta of some kind? I think that qualifies as a vegetable. At the very least, it would confuse people.
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I thought einstin liked a laugth, so he was either fakeing it or he was a idiot and FSM was takeing over him to create his ideas.
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Actually Einstien couldn’t spell his own name.
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Hey, SaucyWench, if Reagan could declare ketchup a vegetable as part of school lunch, I don’t see why His Noodliness couldn’t declare spinach fettucine a vegetable as well. Then, with some sauce and meatballs, you would certainly be a complete and balanced tribute to Pastafarianism! (and don’t forget the beer!)
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I wish the lunchladies at my school were followers of his holy noodle. Twould be much more amusing. Mabye I can convert them….
And some beer is made from vegetables(not just grain), isn’t it? Mabye that’s rum I’m thinking of. well, I know you can make SOMETHING alcoholic from the green stuff.
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well duh its not acurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent FOLLOWERS.
its just satire, i hope no one honest-to-goodness follows it like a real religion.
FSM does, however, gather groups of evolution-supporting, logic-using, in-general smart people. and thats good.
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and i think everyone here would protest to the phrase “people who know nothing”…
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Anna
While I can’t actually prosthyletize (sp? too lazy to spellcheck) at school, and the parents would be horrified if I even mentioned His Noodly Goodness, I can and do support “Pasta Your Way” day, every Thursday, so hopefully as these kids grow up, they will come to love Him, and all He stands for, as much as I do…
Next year, I’m going to promote TLAPD Day, too!
What fun!
(Gues I won’t mention Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory, either)
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We are here therefore we are not smart.
You are here therefore you are not smart.
RAmen
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Well, if you want to go my George Bush, apparently your religion doesn’t attract very intelligent followers either. At least the people here know how to take a joke and use proper grammar, but hey, I guess knowing how to use the language you speak every day of your life is just below your level of “intelligence”, right?
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It’s true the FSM does not ATTRACT intelligent followers; the FSM just CREATED us that way.
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this is really offending me people, take back your blasphemous words and accept the FSM in your heart, or die and go to hell…
anyway, my IQ is 126, apparantly average is 100, and I just recieved my ‘Gospel of the FSM’. may I ask what your IQ is -f??? and if any other pastafarians, evolutionists or ‘intelligent’ designisters wish to include theirs, mabye with a link, perhaps we can solve this?
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Don’t use the scientific scale of IQ.
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Use the christian scale of IQ, defined as 1/(knowledge)
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Therefore his IQ is infinity, and ours is just plain 0 (arbitrarily near to).
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BTW: mine is 153, and the average is going up all the time (maybe education gets better)?
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Well, if Dawkins is all you know, then you probably have to read up more. Most of Dawkins books are actually very good assimilations of major ideas from many different scientists. If you would to go and read up on books and scientific papers from every single scientists involved in evolution, you’ll probably be able to get your Masters in Evolutionary Bio right away. Hence Dawkins books are highly recommended since they are targeted at the layman too, the language not too technical and bla…
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You can try Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, Stephen Jay Gould, James Watson, and for a more balanced view The Language of God by Francis Collins, an evangelical christian and the head of the human genome project. However, I believe most freethinkers/atheists would arrive at the same conclusion they had initially anyway…
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It’s not accurate to say FSM attracts smart people.
It’s not accurate to say Christianity attracts smart people neither.
You can’t say Christians are all moral.
You can’t say Atheists are all moral.
You just can’t make 2 lists of names and start comparing… it’s 3-year-old’s logic at it’s best.
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well. I’m reel smart ‘n stuff. U can tell I’m reeeel smart cuz my daddy got me inta a gud skool by payin dem lotsa moneys. Dat’s kewl. I ran some bisnesses inta th’ ground befor I sold ‘em to my daddy’s frends. I jus know i’m way smarter ‘n enybody else. Lissen ta this: “Nuuuu-kleee-yer!” See! Smarter ‘n the President! I’d lyk ta see HIM pruh-nounce that!
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Bill Bryson’s ‘A short histroy of nearly everything’, even my Mum was able to read it. I can’t imagine a person could actually read it and still be into ID…
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ID is just for uneducated people who desperately want to be ’scientists’. It is so full of inconsistencies that it hurts. It only works on isolated, unsophisticated people, who desperately look for easy answers. Without wanting to offend anyone, but that is why it works best in the USA, sad, but true.
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by the way, English is a foreign language to me. Can you, dear -f, argue in a language foreign to you? I guess I never laughed enogh :’(
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This is my favorite website. The first time I saw it I laughed so hard I cried. I share it with other ‘un-intelligent’ people, too. They also agree it is a great site. Did I mention that according to the Stanford-Binet test my IQ is 162? Well above genius. Or that I attended highly-gifted magnet schools from second grade to senior year of HS? But hey, who believes in phony intelligence tests anyway?
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Actually, I did an entire essay on the diffrence between ID and evolution, and it got published in the newspaper…Now a stupid person couldn’t do that. Plus whats the point of being intelligent if your a stuck of prude that everyone hates…Where’s the fun in that?
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Actually, I did an entire essay on the diffrence between ID and evolution, and it got published in the newspaper…Now a stupid person couldn’t do that. Plus whats the point of being intelligent if your a stuck up prude that everyone hates…Where’s the fun in that?
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In a way he the openning post is kind of correct, I mean we are not actually showing are full potential here. Then again I don’t really need my full potential to out wit a christian!
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It seems like you have time for the joke, otherwise you would not have sent this hate-mail.
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That statement itself is idiotic…any fool can believe in a god (any god) because a book or their parents told them to…to look beyond that takes not only guts and self-confidence but a brief sense of logic that isn’t circular (”I believe in this book” “why?” “because it told me to”)….and about the web site….any fool can read and comprehend something; only the knowing can enjoy the joke.
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Last time I checked, sheep (and other easily led livestock) didn’t have very large mental capacities. Shocking that those who follow blindly would be attacking those who think for themselves. something to ponder I’m sure.
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Betcha my IQ is higher than yourse!
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> what we get is people who know nothing and want
> a place to mock religion
-f,
I believe you are confusing divine inspiration with mocking. To be sure, there are some parallels between Pastafarianism and Christianity, but just the parts that by chance, or by His noodly inspiration, Christians got right, such as the creation of the world by a single “Creator” (in 7 days for Christians, in 0.062831853 seconds, approximately, for Pastafarians). This is not a mocking of Christianity – Christians deserve credit for getting a few things right – and Pastafarians are not afraid to give credit where credit is due.
We Pastafarians simply want a level playing field – let all religions/theories be free – let them all be taught. If you truly believed in religious freedom you would be a supporter of Pastafarianism.
As for Dawkins, well again Christians and Pastafarians, can find some common ground. Dawkins has famously said that “religion is the root of all evil”. I don’t know about the Christian god, but how can “noodly goodness” be “evil” – by definition that is not possible, so Dawkins is wrong.
I would urge you -f, and you Mr Dawkins, to open your hearts to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and let him into your life.
Go in garlicy peace my friends.
Brother Boyardee
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I just stumbled across this site, and had a good chuckle out of this thread.
I’ve always said “Life, no one gets out alive”. So you can either have a good time, enjoy yourself, enjoy the finer things in life. Or you can take everything totally seriously and be completely miserable for the rest of your life. Me? I think I’ll chuckle and ponder the more amusing things I stumble across…
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I think you guys scared him away…
–Sean
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It’s true. Smart people have no time for humor. I looked it up…seriously.
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you’ve got to be kidding me. if you all take any of this stuff seriously you are just letting everyone know that you are very niave.sp? this site is ment to be humorus and prove a point. the point is that if intelligent design which is strictly based on faith alone can be taught is schools then why can’t something absurd as the flying spagetti monster? i am not saying that faith is a bad thing, i am not an atheist, but it should definitly not be taught in schools as a science.. that’s what church is for. there is much more evidence that supports evolution than that supports intelligent design and therefore, intelligent design should not be taught as a science.
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By American law I am not yet an adult, but I have an IQ over 50 points above the U.S.A average. In general, yes we are a clever lot.
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@ Jack Sparrow,
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You are confusing me. You are named after a paragon of piraticality, but your posts suggest to me an anti-pastafarian trend.
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Lay yer cards on the table, ye scabrous dog. Arr ye with us, or ‘gainst us?
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@Devil Ponies
“Actually, I did an entire essay on the diffrence between ID and evolution, and it got published in the newspaper…”
Post it for us.
@liz Oct 27th, 2006 at 7:11 am
“Last time I checked, sheep (and other easily led livestock) didn’t have very large mental capacities. ”
Spot on liz.
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Most genuinley intelligent people have a sence of humor.
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Uhhh inteligent people like humor to. You don’t like the FSM fine, just dont call us all stupid when you have no proff were all as brain dead as you claim. You probly dont even know any of us personaly either so go make fun of people you know are retarted to make yourself feel better.
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As someone who often eats bagels, I feel eminently qualified to expound on this matter of intelligence and how it is represented within the FSM community as a whole. Having only been knocked unconscious twice, I believe in the FSM. Having eaten more acid than TUMS and Rolaids combined, I stil can’t get stupid enough to believe in Adam, Eve, unicorns, Noah or tea leaves.
IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION, THEN DON’T GET A FLU SHOT THIS YEAR!
(Allow me to explain for the un-intelligent design loonies. Influenza viruses mutate (evolve) constantly so that each new strain must be identified and an anti-viral must be developed. However, in a world where there is no evolution, then this must not actually happen. Belive that if you will and skip the flu shot. Perhaps a few idiots will not fare so well with an untreated sickness and the herd will be culled of a few IQ curve-killers.
Take faith and twirl it on a fork.
Arrrhhhhgghhhhh. Ramen
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-f seems to confuse intelligence with leisure time.
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Is there a correlation between intelligence and free time? Do smart people work more than not-so-smart people because they are working on difficult projects (some do), or less because they’ve got figured things out and don’t have to work so hard to earn a living? Probably both.
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You have to be pretty smart AND motivated AND dedicated to get a PhD. While not having a PhD doesn’t mean one is not intelligent, motivated, or dedicated.
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Obviously this site attracts people from all intelligence levels, but it’s the hate mail that proves “f’s point.
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@BroBoy
Oct 27th, 2006 at 11:37 am
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“[T]here are some parallels between Pastafarianism and Christianity … such as the creation of the world by a single “Creator†(in 7 days for Christians, in 0.062831853 seconds, approximately, for Pastafarians).”
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I thought it was 10-12 minutes (or until the noodles are ‘al dente’). Then drain and serve with a delicious Saucy Wench and a tasty beer. However, I consulted the GOTFSM and – Y’aaargh! Enlightenment on page 51!
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However, I found no requirement that I forgo Saucy Wenches and tasty beer, so my belief in the wisdom of Pastafarianism is unshaken.
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May we all be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
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RAmen!
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If you say that intelligent people are not attracted to pastafarianism, then their fields of expertiese are of no consequence. As soon as you say that an intelligent person is attracted to pastafarianism, then intelligent people ARE in fact attracted to it. you cannot say they they do not when by your own admission they do. the idea of them being “and exception to a rule” is likewise stupid, because by your own admission they are intelligent, and attracted to pastafarianism.
period.
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