It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.
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“He” would beg to differ with your mentally narcissistic post. All well-balanced human beings need relief through humor to cope with the absurdities of life. The Noodley One has bathed me in his warm glowing warming-glow.
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Mark Zurbuchen, Ph.D.
J. Simon, PhD
Professor Douglas Shaw, Ph.D
Notice a pattern, all have endorsed Pastafarianism and all have P.H.D.s. Does a P.H.D. require intelligence. I can’t remember after all the bible reading’s.
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yes and christianity attracts many intelligent folk. the three wise men were classified as intelligent, and they say they were guided by a star. that is the stupidest thing i’v ever heard. and god impregnating a random woman!!!! was it his great plan, or was it a drunken night out on the town. plus jesus’ deciples all ditched him, he obviously wasnt as pleasant to be around as the great noodly one. i mean, he gives away free meatball. the roman catholics seemed like a clever lot until rome was sacked. and now the pope is a nazi!! if i was him i wouldn’t quote any more anti-muslim texts. and the priests that you hire, they should stop feeling up little boys.
sincerely,
blubbery joe
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First of all, those aren’t the rule. They are the exception. Thus the special section devoted to them under “Academic Endorsements.” Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.
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Second, what is their PhD in? Chemistry? English Lit? Their expertise is narrow. They know the subject of their thesis quite well. Nobody can legitimately question that. But in a discussion about religion, their opinion is no more enlightened, no more informed, and no more valuable than yours, piratey joe.
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If you had a seven year attention span, you too could have a PhD in any subject you choose. And unless your chosen subject was directly related, you would still have nothing to tell me about religion and your endorsement would be as useless then as it is now.
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Ex. blubbery joe
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See what I mean?
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“…….Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…….”
Ha ha ha haa ha ha :) :) :) :p
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Does artificial intelligence have a sense of humor?
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Do you have a seven Year attention span then you can leave us alone for seven years as you get a P.H.D in fucking your self. If you have the time to sit here and reply to your own posts. You obviously are an idiot. I agree with both joes, both blubbery and piratey.
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“…….Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…….â€
Most of the genuinely intelligent people I’ve ever met. (a lot of them from areas outside of academia)
ALWAYS have time for a joke!
RAmen
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To:”-f”
direct quotes from the evidence section of the FSM website:
“Thank you for enlightening the world about the true creator of the universe and everything in it. As a person with a doctorate in Molecular Biophysics and Biochemistry from Yale University (1974) and, thus, a better than average understanding of evolution and Darwinism, I would like to endorse, wholeheartedly, your efforts to get schools to include the REAL truth about ID and about the intelligent designer, none other than the FSM, when they teach ID in their science classes. RAMEN, “
–Ann M. Körner Ph.D.
“As a biodiversity researcher, it has long been clear to me that there must have been something transcending mere variation, heritability, time and differential survival behind all these different sorts of animals and plants – why this ridiculous redundancy? But your revelation of a noodly appendage guiding all things has supplied the missing recipe for truly understanding this interwoven chaos of diversity. What could be plainer, once one has gazed on one of His manifestations, gilded with ground Parmesan, bathed in the blood of tomatoes, hallowed with the incense of basil and oregano, than the conclusion that only a transcendent being such as He could have conceived of the profoundly tangled connections that are revealed by researches into ecology and evolution. A personal relationship with Pasta should not be an option – it should be mandated, and be available on special Friday and Saturday nights.“ –Dr Mark Hutchinson (Adelaide, South Australia)
“As geneticist, my personal belief in the creator of everything was so far, that he resembles a pink invisible flying rabbit circling the earth just opposite the sun, and soundlessly squeaking “42″. In consequence, this creature is undetectable even by the most advanced human techniques. Furthermore, the ability of being pink and invisible at the same time provides proof for real allmightyness. However, Pastafarianism seems to be much more substantiated, and is not violating Occam’s razor (see comment of S. Bilson-Thompson), and follows pure philosophical logic, as colleague Brian D. Rabern has pointed out previously. Therefore, I am sure that the members of the Kansas Board of Education, who gave logic a particular importance, will honor these undisputable facts by including FSM in their curriculum, thereby setting highest educational standards also for non-US countries. – Additionally, the invisible pink rabbit hypothesis might be discussed if there could be some time spared in the pupil’s schedule. RAmen “ –Jobst Meyer, PhD, Professor of Behavioral Genetics
“The first bottle of Lambrusco I chugged in High School some 30 years ago washed my full immersion baptism into the Baptist faith away. The second bottle I chugged that night resulted in a pasta “vision†that, sadly, I was too blind and covered in noodles to understand. Now, after a long career as a Biologist and educator, I see the light. If you form a curriculum committee, keep me in mind.â€
– Jeff Young, Ph.D.
seriously how many more qualified people do you need?
RAmen brotha
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Attention: New Commandment…..”Thou shalt not laugh”
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It’s not my post I’m replying to. Its yours.
I’m doing the same thing as you: I’ve been browsing through the forums, throwing in my two cents wherever I feel like it. I may be an idiot, but I’m no more an idiot than anyone else here. What is a forum for if not for discussing or arguing? I don’t believe in drive-by insults. At the very least, I prefer to stick around and watch them take effect.
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I sincerely disgree with you. In order to obtain a doctorate, it doesn’t take a dedication to time, it takes the potential mental capacity to do so. Something that not everyone is capable. It only takes time to reach that mental capacity. And as you might know, because you seem to be pretty defensive and cocky, that part of the process to obtain your Ph.D is a research/analysis section. Meaning that these people have to be able to think both logically and extremely abstractly. That to me constitutes intelligent in every sense of the word. Moreover, mainstream religion is so fatally flawed that it only does take a few simple SCIENTIFIC facts to disprove the bible and what it stands for (ex. the age of the planet. It is obviously older than 5 or 6 thousand years). Even if FSM does atract a few people who are a bit retarded (slowed down) it also attracts many more of us who are intelligent (I’m not saying I’m a genious but I am intelligent). AND so what religion wouldn’t even compare.
I’m sorry if you disagree with me, but i don’t feel like wasting any more time arguing with you and will not reply.
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f,
Please stop because you make me laugh – which is obviously draining my intelligence!
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“It only takes time to reach that mental capacity.”
As you said yourself, intelligence can be achieved. Not everyone is capable, but most are. Many intelligent people choose not to, because they have weighed their other options and see no reason for it.
I never argued that people with PhDs aren’t intelligent. That is a misinterpretation of what was said. That argument cannot be pursued very far. What I did was question the value of a PhD endorsement of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, by it’s nature, does not attract intelligent people. The opposition to teaching Intelligent Design in science class certainly does.
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-f
I think you have missed the point entirely!
I am curious to know what you are doing with your vast intellegence. Are you fighting against world poverty, are you protecting children from abuse? I mean what the F##K is your point?
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I just think that this site is a good way for all of us to take ourselves and a our beliefs and just laugh at ourselves, no matter what we believe in.
I think the big problem with the world today, from my perspective, is that we all just need to be a bit more tolerant of each other. I know that is not a the most popular-practised idea. But I find that at the basis of most of these religions is tolerance and understanding of your fellow brother or sister.
I think that FSM is great and really puts a smile on my face.
I have always believed that pirates were mystical. Good to find someone else who shares my beliefs.
RA
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“Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke”
Sir, you are confusing the word “intelligent” for “busy”.
Intelligent people have all the time they want to devote to anything they fancy. Busy people, it can be argued, have little time for anything but what they consider important. And even they there may be some busy people finding the chrurch of FSM an important topic of research.
I consider you do not have a point and label you irremediably as a buffoon.
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RAmen Solo!
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…It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature….
I personally disagree. I have seen wonderful, as well as many, displays of intelligence at this site.
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Basicly, lets take what -f has to say litteraly:
Intelligent people have no sense of humour. If we were to take this seriously, we’d find that he cannot be intelligent (as he browses this site, and therefore has some sort of sense of humour). And therefore either way, if he’s right or wrong he musn’t be taken seriously. Foolproof logic :)
I’m sorry, but if you “don’t have time for the joke”, you don’t have time to live life, for what it was ment for.
Frick, even Dawkins has a good sense of humour, he was on colbert for god sakes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he visits this site regularly.
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Hello -f,
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First of all, let me start by saying that I’m not going to *personally* insult you.
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I’m educated to GCE level. Here in the UK (I don’t know where you’re based, so I’ll explain the whole thing, for the benefit of other posters if nothing else), that’s the exams you take at the age of 16. You can leave school after that, which I did. No college, no University. I’m seriously uneducated.
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However…
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I run a successful business (my third), designing and developing software. I play music, I climb, I involve myself in local politics. I debate *anything* with my friends. I read *lots* (not just trash thrillers and detective novels, either – although they’re fun in their own way). I correspond with lots of people via email.
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Most people that know me don’t believe that I never went to University, but I didn’t. Some of the most intelligent people I personally know didn’t – they got on with becoming millionaires instead.
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I spend time posting to this board because I have time on my hands right now – I’m on a break, between contracts. I don’t find that I’m getting any dumber by having a rest!
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I guess the points I’m trying to make here are:
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a) Education is no indication of intelligence – you can be dead smart without one.
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b) Having time on your hands is no indication of intelligence – in fact, I’d say the smartest people can probably afford more leisure time.
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c) None of the above negates the common experience here that most (but by no means all) the commentators that come here to knock FSM *miss its point* – and what inference are we to draw from that? They’re somehow *too smart* to get the joke?
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d) Finally, if someone’s in too big a hurry to read what FSM is about, properly, before posting a negative comment about it, then no, that doesn’t neccessarily make the unintelligent. But it does make them a jerk.
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“Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the jokeâ€
This is a joke, right? I laughed when I read it. So I conclude that -f has time for a joke. So from this argument I can draw the logical conclusion that -f is not genuine, or not intelligent, or neigther.
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Now let us all huddle together and re-affirm our faith in Him before engaging in a time consuming and mind numbing counting of the pasta. I shall bury my head in the pasta and I shall receive the comfort of knowing that there is a monster; and he is made of spaghetti. And he took up the sauce. And low his meatballs were placed to the right and to the left. And the strands of spaghetti, though initially tepid were elevated to a state of warmth.
Rejoice ye all. RAmen.
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@Davey
“Education is no indication of intelligence – you can be dead smart without one.”
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Something I always quoted when people said “you must be smart to be going to uni”
I also informed them that what was most demanded in studying for a degree was interest, time and effort. But if you really wanted to, yu could get past with time and effort.
“Some of the most intelligent people I personally know didn’t – they got on with becoming millionaires instead.”
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I agree. The flip side is, while they aren’t the majority, I’ve really had to wonder how some students got into uni in the first place, let alone walked out with a degree.
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RAmen
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Thank you for pointing us in the right direction, Don Lardini.
Pass the sauce and reaffirm the holy experience of being touched by his noodly appendages.
More beer.
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I’m drawn once more to consider a Larson comic, posted by someone oh so central to this argument.
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Not really dead on topic here, but we’re talking about intelligence, so I thought I would paste this link from one of my other favorite sites, Phil Plait’s “Bad Astronomy”. It appears science is once again on notice from the Catholic Church:
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http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2006/10/22/pope-of-wax/
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I truly love Phil’s last two paragraphs. It’s amazing how often religous pundits fail to notice the irony in their own statements.
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OEJ
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Some of the wittiest, most genuinely funny people I know have PhDs in Math, Physics and Computer Science (generally considered signs of intelligence). The reverse also seems to hold true, as all those people with PhDs that I know are almost universally possessed of sharp wit and good sense of humor.
Personally, I think you have to be at least reasonably intelligent to appreciate the humor of FSM. Ramen, intelligent brothers.
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The entire point of these intellectuals endorsing the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not to prove that he exists, but that if an omnipotent being exists, it is just as accurate to call it “god†as it is to call it “Flying Spaghetti Monsterâ€. And as to the whole anti-humor campaign, you can either live life taking it seriously and focusing on the negatives, or its possible to try to help people via science and still get a good laugh out of it before you die. Personally, I know which I choose.
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First, thanks for the link, One-Eyed-Jack!
Second, I’m not bragging or nothing, but I’m kinda smart. And I do get FSM. Maybe my intelligence isn’t genuine, though. Could I be a knock-off intellectual? That would suck.
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@ -f
For someone who obviously considers themselves to be of far greater intelligence than the rest of us, I notice that you seem to be spending an awful lot of time on here – in fact far more time than I do. Please tell us, who are you trying to convince with your “intelligence” – us…or yourself? We understand if you don’t the joke – and apprantly you don’t. Or at least if you do get the joke, you have to learn how to take one. So please, join us in thriving from His Noodley Appendage, if you choose not to, it’s your choice, but why waste your “intelligence” on something you seem to find so dumb and mundane?
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To those who were talking about intelligence and degrees a gew posts back i agree that not all smart people go to uni and apparently the pass mark for a degree in medecine is 50% – just a little something to prove the point about some people who go to uni not being tht bright. I say apparently because i got tht info randomly from the teacher during a stats lesson he said he was at uni with some people who did medecine. Can any 1 confirm if 50% is the pass mark and then post, please?
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there are several levels of intelligence, only one of them academia. There is also street smarts and applicable intelligence. I know of many people who are intelligent and have PHD’s but lack the ability to draw a corelation between a no parking sign and a parking ticket. Trust me, i’ve written enough tickets to have published a book on the topic. (working on it)
furthermore, I have met many people who have not gone to university and have led successful lives in the business sector. It’s all relative to the work that they do. the same is true for FSM. For my own curiousity, do you have a degree? Are you educated? I am sure the rest of us ‘unintelligent’ posters would love to know where….what’s the phrase/ oh yes we would like to know where you get off telling us we must be unintelligent.
Read the gospel buddy. Especailly the ‘I’d rather you didn’t’ Section.
RAmen
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I consider myself a generally intelegent person. I come here in my spare time.
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-f – “Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.â€â€”Actually, I’ve come across quite a few scientists, doctors, so on so forth…and me, of course, I’m no moron. *cough*
“But in a discussion about religion, their opinion is no more enlightened, no more informed, and no more valuable than yours,â€â€”so does that mean no one is ever allowed to have an opinion on religion but those who majored in studying it? Anyone who can get a PhD in ANYTHING is intelligent enough to consider carefully the many quirks of religion and form an intellectual opinion. I’d certainly trust them over the white trash down the street. (Assuming there is, in fact, white trash down the street near you.)
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You’ve been annoying me for some time. For one thing, getting a diploma in any field implies that you had the mental potential and stamina needed to attain that goal. Going to college for 4 years or more, you generally pick up other knowledge in addition to the stuff you paid for. I would assume that most (if not all) of the people who regularly post here are fairly intelligent, not only from the content of the posts, but by the comonly known fact that most smart people love funny stuff.
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-f,
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Please tell me what qualifications you have? Come come, let us know what educational heights you have acheived, up to PHD? If not FUCK OFF!
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“Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.
And here I thought that being genuinely intelligent was what permitted me to have the time to read websites like this, in as much as it requires a bit of ingenuity, critical and executive thinking, and technical proficiency (my work has been called the product of genius, but I am far too humble to mention it) to cram as much as I do into my day and still have a decent amount of goof-off time.
Thank you for enlightening me. I now know that I am only superficially intelligent, as opposed to genuinely so.
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“Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.”
Typically we refer to them by their religious affiliation. “Morons” is really harsh. For shame.
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“Typically we refer to them by their religious affiliation. “Morons†is really harsh. For shame.”
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Yes, I think this is a typo: he meant “Mormons”.
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“It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…â€
Actually, I think it’s the truly intelligent who realize humor is one of (if not the) most important things in life. If you can’t laugh, why bother living?
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Wait, so you actually think that getting a PhD is simply a matter of studying hard? That intelligence is in no way inherited or socialized?
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I knew Phil Plait was a Pastafarian. Had to be. hehe.
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One of the things I love about this site is how intelligent and witty so many Pastafarians are. I’m not one to debate theology, and I don’t have a PhD, yet I’m no fool. There are plenty of intelligent posters of the non-Pastafarian type also, but I don’t find them very amusing. I admire those of us who debate Christians on their own terms, however. Now, I have to go look for a vegetable costume for Halloween. My department at work has been instructed to dress up as vegetables.
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If you are under the age of 20 you are automaticly stupid- According to -f’s logic, since you can’t have a PHD @ that point. So basicly, wasting many years of your life @ an academic institution = intelligent. Just thought i’d sum it up
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-f,
God loves you, everybody else….
Sorry -f, a bit below the belt but hey it makes me laugh and drains my intellect!!
Can you tell me is intelligence a requirement to get into Heaven?
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I’d just like to say that this is just hilarious. Look at all the people getting worked up because we believe in FSM instead of God. Hello people! What happened to religious freedom? Oh, since I’m a pastafarian, I’m stupid and deserve to go to hell? Yeah, all of you people getting worked up about this make me laugh till I pee!
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And I’ll still be laughing after I pass away, as I quaff from the beer volcano and watch those handsome strippers rolling off the assembly line! Ramen!
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Travis: I’m 15, in university 2nd yr and I see no reason why I can’t have a PhD before 20…
-f you.
Oh, and stop this discussion. The “intelligence” -f’s talking about is only “christian intelligence”, which is equal to 1/(academic knowledge). -f’s intelligence is infinity, while ours is 0.
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