It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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I can easily rebut this comment because I myself am genuinely intelligent. I have a literally perfect academic record, including qualifications in maths, physics, chemistry, biology, geology and astronomy. Presently, I’m reading for a degree in Earth Sciences at St. Edmund Hall in the University of Oxford, which I fully expect to follow up with a doctorate. I have been collecting geological specimens and scientific textbooks for most of my life.
Everything that I have seen and read in every field of science has confirmed the existence of His Noodliness. For example, the problem of wave-particle duality is completely solved by considering light and so on to be streams of wavy spaghetti.
Yours as intimidatingly as possible,
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Does not attract intelligent followers? O RLY??? ;)
http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelligence%20&%20religion.htm
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Don’t forget the Atheist’s Pope Richard Dawkins
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Above, Ted Linguini wrote “Take faith and twirl it on a fork.” This suggests a great tag line for the Church of the FSM:
“Pastafarianism: Faith you can twirl on a fork.”
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I have seen countless people debating over evolution, and I can conclude that their work achieved nothing. The IDers are so rooted in their faith that any evidence can be beaten by a simple “God did it.” That is where FSMism comes in; simple mockery and humor can expose the ridiculousness of some of the creationist ideas. If you are simply suggesting that most people on our forums are stupid, then you have wasted your time. The fact is that most people in this world are stupid. If you look at any community, you will probably find that most members are stupid. You are one of said stupid people. Congratulations, -f-er
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Thanks for the reference Zok! This is good stuff. Max: Long live ridicule of the stupid! Since we’re buried in the annoying fuckers we way as well have a little fun.
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That’s the spirit!
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“Pastafarianism: Faith you can twirl on a fork.”
I love it, matey.
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I, too, agree with the new motto. I want a bumper sticker.
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Like Hi IQ, my own IQ is 162. Pretty high. I also have three jobs and go to school, so I’m busy too. Yet I still have time to meander over to this site once or twice a day. Honestly, if I didn’t find the time to laugh, I’d probably go completely mad and start believing that an invisible man lived in the sky, had premarital sex with a fourteen year old, then later killed the resulting child and turned him into a zombie.
You know, Jesus being a zombie explains a lot. Coming back from the dead, the brain eating… hmm…
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How many specialists of evolution or any branch of biology actually can deny evolution. Almost zero. And what about these so called “holy men” of Christianity what are they experts in? They know nothing but what they were taught in church or read in a book based on nothing that can be proven. Evolution is based on scientific fact, research it. It makes sense, ID does not. It’s not so difficult to see how Natural Selection works my friend. Science can be proven, Religion can not be proven.
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I may just, technically, be an irish kid of the age of 15, but if god is perfect,, why would he feel the need to create anything, much less an imperfect world? If to be perfect is to be complete in every sense, then why would he feel the desire to create, and why would he feel the need to tempt his people. To me this suggests either sadism , or really having nothing better to fdo with his time. If anyone wants to hear of anymore arguments against God(s) i’ve got a few more cooking here. And by the way, in case you haven’t noticed,im not tryinfg to offend your beliefs, these are merely my own. Thank you. And (i know i shouldn’t start a sentence with it, but who cares?) who gave you the right to assume that people of an intelligent nature wouldn’t have time for a joke? That is highly offensive and blatantly incorrect
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Intelligent people don’t have time for the joke….. what an arse…. I have 2 degrees and currently work as a scientist…. intelligent people always have time for a joke…. maybe more time ’cause it doesn’t take us quite as long to get the joke dumbshit!
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Ok so my 4.0 GPA in a double major doesn’t make me intelligent?????? Oh and I have 2 jobs and 2 children (yep smarties also), let’s see I volunteer at my local zoo, I volunteer to teach people to read, and on and on
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I always have time for intelligent satire and critical thinking.
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I attended a magnet school in Austin, TX, which while being smack dab in the middle of hickdom, is one of the more prestigious public high schools (that’s kind of an oxymoron I know). I’m doing more extra-curricular activities than average (scio, cretamen, knowledge masters, Latin club and im filming a mildly satirical movie (most people will just laugh)) but I have a very good Christian friend who argues with me over evolution and ID constantly, but I don’t hate him, I believe that there is too much broad hostility being conveyed by us(aren’t we suppose to be the smart ones?) to all Christians. We as a faith are losing our original purpose, to get rid of ID from schools and keep it out. From the various hate mails we have gotten we have begun to lose sight of our purpose, we are turning from activists to a Christian hating cult, come on guys lets not be another scientologist cult
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lets only attack the people who attack us, and I can share a joke when intellegant people lose sight of what makes us human we become the hitlers and stalins of the world.
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@anthrobabe
>”Ok so my 4.0 GPA in a double major doesn’t make me intelligent??????
Oh and I have 2 jobs and 2 children (yep smarties also), let’s see I volunteer at my local zoo, I volunteer to teach people to read, and on and on”
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Everybody comes here and touts their credentials. You are throwing everything you have out there to give yourself more credibility. Your inflated sense of entitlement and self-worth is hilarious. I hope that this is not the attitude that you have towards everything in your life. It is interesting that even after getting a 4.0 GPA in your double major (in what and what?), you are not uniquely useful enough to anyone for them to hire you on full time. Everyone loves themselves first and loves their kids second. Everybody thinks they know better. You are average, and your two kids are average. There is nothing wrong with being average. 50% of people just as dumb or dumber than you are, 50% are just as smart or smarter. Its the lower half that you teach reading skills to. Volunteering at a zoo is not an indication of your intelligence.
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>”I always have time for intelligent satire and critical thinking.”
FSM is not critical thinking. Its a joke. Its not intelligent satire. Its slapstick.
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Seems more like intelligent satire to me.
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And what does that say about you?
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@Cunnilingus Rice
Feel free to leave! Thanks for enlightening us with your “superior opinion”
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Ms. Rice…
Back at’cha, matey!!!
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Probably steals candy from little kids!
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Her screen name is a dead giveaway.
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I have an IQ of 157, a degree in medicine, a degree in physiology AND an ‘eye wateringly large’ (in a random sample of one of my ex girlfriends) male member.
And I BEElliievve.
Arrr!!! May its tomatoey tentacles tell thou the terrible tangy truth tritely tommorow.
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Cunnilingus Rice–That I have a better sence of humor then you? ;)
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that is a pretty unfair comment, I have been in all the higher sets for everthing (exept P.E.) I took seperate science this year and am predicted A grades, I HAVE TIME FOR A JOKE, you dont have to be a moron to have a laugh! In fact I find that the people with the best sense of humour are the boffins.
oh yeah, and i am in set one for R.S. so I dont realy want the
“so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.”
Bullshit
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Dawkins who?
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Evolution what?
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Maybe it’s more accurate to say that fundamentalist right-wing religious nutcases attract retarded immature imbeciles.
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But then again that would be unfair to the retarded, the immature and imbeciles..
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Anyway that leaves plenty of just normal people for FSM to attract.
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Wow…cause if they’re Christian, they have to be Fundamentalist right-wing religious nutcases right? No liberal Christians then right?
Thats fine, I’m excluded too because I’m Independent. So again…whats your point?
Dr. Michael Martin
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since you have told us in various threads that you endorse creation science and believ taht the christian god is the only god, you are clearly not independant.
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I made no mention of any specific religion, or political affiliation. I was responding to the OP anyway.
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My only point was you don’t have to be Einstein to be attracted to FSM.
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Cunnilingus Rice, you teach people to read at the zoo? *cough* thats a giraffe my friend, a giraffe…
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Thankfully, Cunnilingus swallowed his tongue.
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Your conclusion does not follow. My religion is Christian. My political stance is Independent. And you have no right to tell me what I am and am not.
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@Dr. Michael Martin
WTF?? Can you not read?? I didn’t tell you ANYTHING. I have no wish to tell anyone what they can and cannot do. It seems to be the aforementioned nutcases that come here telling us we are wrong and we should die and go to hell…I wish no-one to die and go to hell. And if you can’t follow the simple conclusion that you don’t have to be a genius to be attracted to FSM then that’s your problem not mine.
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forgive me, i misinterpreted your last message. i was referrinmg to your religious, not political stance.
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Oops maybe you were not responding to me. If not please accept my apologies.
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I agree. It attracts people that have exactly the same intelligence as every other religion. People who have exactly the same knowledge base and are as informed as members of every other religion.
On a lighter note, I have taken up pastafarianism in the hope that through communing with the great FSM he will let me not be touched by his noodly appendage as I jump from airplanes. Thus when I am skydiving I can one day do so without a parachute, once HE feels that I have sufficient faith. I plan to spread the word of FSM to all of the other skydivers at the local dropzone so that they can help me to convince HIM to help us with his noodly appendage during our “intelligent falling” episodes.
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Of course, I doubt many people of other Religious beliefs would be willing to take that Leap of Faith… Maybe their belief in their God just isn’t as strong as they say. I say they should prove it.
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well, pastafarians basically can all read, write (type at least) and use computers. They also have an understanding of satire. Where as there are many, many people from other religions which cannot do (any/all of) the above, so i would guess the average intellegence is, infact, higher.
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I actually conducted a poll regarding belief in a God on the MENSA forums (gotta be a member to see)
Around 56% claim a disbelief in gods
And deducing from other posts the majority of the remaining 44% believe in god in a very nebulous non religiously defined way… So there is most certainly a correlation between IQ and religiosity.
(and lets not get in to my IQ :) )
Viva FSM
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“Dr. Michael Martin Nov 21st, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Dawkins who?”
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And you claim to be a Dr? I think you should check your foot for bullet holes…
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Don’t bring up the Doktor again, spider, speaking his name may cause him to manifest!
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Oh dear! Both the BLR and the dokta have been mentioned on threads in the past 12hrs or so. That can’t bode well at all. :(
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We are…surrounded with…signs and portents…
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Uh so intelligent people can’t have a laugh?
It attracts people as any other religeons do just people here and there…
Who the fuck says because you inteligent you have to use your brain properly! I mean hell I know that I can do some amazing art but I sit and waste my time on the internet.
Just because your ‘intelligent’ it does not mean you know how to use it properly.
For goodness ake if you had that much intelligence and you couldn’t let a little out on a luagh you would truly implode.
-Just a little silly girl laughing at a serious little person
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O! I see now, I have been so stupid all my life, damn. I can’t be a cleaver person because I have sense of humour. I mean sense of humour (time for a joke) is clearly a limiting factor of intelligence. Its just silly to suggest that any one who has ever spent a second of there life finding something amusing could be inelegant. They should just spend there time being inelegant, not doing anything light hearted. Naturally I can not form any of my own opinions, I have merely read up on Dawkins and Darwin (who clearly spends his time preaching that FSM is god) and have never formulated my own opinions on religion. No! I haven’t!
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I don’t think it’s fair to say that ALL pastasfarians are intelligent, because there are always some slow-coaches in the mix somewhere, people don’t become pastafarians quite for that reason.
People become pastafarians because the intent of every aspect of pastafarianism aims at being positive. It encourages tolerance, goodwill, dressing up like a pirate to please his noodliness (and because it is so damn fun!), preaches of a delightful sounding heaven and encourages that the deity is one that just wants to be happy with his people.
You don’t need to be intelligent to be pastafarian, but I assure you that you don’t have to be stupid either. That’s not the point.
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f said “First of all, those aren’t the rule. They are the exception. Thus the special section devoted to them under “Academic Endorsements.” Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.
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Second, what is their PhD in? Chemistry? English Lit? Their expertise is narrow. They know the subject of their thesis quite well. Nobody can legitimately question that. But in a discussion about religion, their opinion is no more enlightened, no more informed, and no more valuable than yours, piratey joe.
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If you had a seven year attention span, you too could have a PhD in any subject you choose. And unless your chosen subject was directly related, you would still have nothing to tell me about religion and your endorsement would be as useless then as it is now.
It may have been said before but (to quote dawkin’s uni proffessor on theology) “I have grave doubt to whether it is actually a subject”
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are you saying intelligent people never laugh?
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