It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers

It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.

-f

149 Responses to “It's not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers”


  1. 1 Beatgrinder Oct 22nd, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    “He” would beg to differ with your mentally narcissistic post. All well-balanced human beings need relief through humor to cope with the absurdities of life. The Noodley One has bathed me in his warm glowing warming-glow.

  2. 2 piratey joe Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:09 pm

    Mark Zurbuchen, Ph.D.
    J. Simon, PhD
    Professor Douglas Shaw, Ph.D
    Notice a pattern, all have endorsed Pastafarianism and all have P.H.D.s. Does a P.H.D. require intelligence. I can’t remember after all the bible reading’s.

  3. 3 blubbery joe Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 pm

    yes and christianity attracts many intelligent folk. the three wise men were classified as intelligent, and they say they were guided by a star. that is the stupidest thing i’v ever heard. and god impregnating a random woman!!!! was it his great plan, or was it a drunken night out on the town. plus jesus’ deciples all ditched him, he obviously wasnt as pleasant to be around as the great noodly one. i mean, he gives away free meatball. the roman catholics seemed like a clever lot until rome was sacked. and now the pope is a nazi!! if i was him i wouldn’t quote any more anti-muslim texts. and the priests that you hire, they should stop feeling up little boys.

    sincerely,
    blubbery joe

  4. 4 -f Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:22 pm

    First of all, those aren’t the rule. They are the exception. Thus the special section devoted to them under “Academic Endorsements.” Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.
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    Second, what is their PhD in? Chemistry? English Lit? Their expertise is narrow. They know the subject of their thesis quite well. Nobody can legitimately question that. But in a discussion about religion, their opinion is no more enlightened, no more informed, and no more valuable than yours, piratey joe.
    .
    If you had a seven year attention span, you too could have a PhD in any subject you choose. And unless your chosen subject was directly related, you would still have nothing to tell me about religion and your endorsement would be as useless then as it is now.

  5. 5 -f Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:23 pm

    Ex. blubbery joe
    .
    See what I mean?

  6. 6 nikkiee Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    “…….Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…….”
    Ha ha ha haa ha ha :) :) :) :p

  7. 7 RAT Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:40 pm

    Does artificial intelligence have a sense of humor?

  8. 8 pasta chef Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    Do you have a seven Year attention span then you can leave us alone for seven years as you get a P.H.D in fucking your self. If you have the time to sit here and reply to your own posts. You obviously are an idiot. I agree with both joes, both blubbery and piratey.

  9. 9 nikkiee Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:49 pm

    “…….Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…….”
    Most of the genuinely intelligent people I’ve ever met. (a lot of them from areas outside of academia)
    ALWAYS have time for a joke!
    RAmen

  10. 10 tha beast from tha east Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:51 pm

    To:”-f”

    direct quotes from the evidence section of the FSM website:

    “Thank you for enlightening the world about the true creator of the universe and everything in it. As a person with a doctorate in Molecular Biophysics and Biochemistry from Yale University (1974) and, thus, a better than average understanding of evolution and Darwinism, I would like to endorse, wholeheartedly, your efforts to get schools to include the REAL truth about ID and about the intelligent designer, none other than the FSM, when they teach ID in their science classes. RAMEN, “
    –Ann M. Körner Ph.D.

    “As a biodiversity researcher, it has long been clear to me that there must have been something transcending mere variation, heritability, time and differential survival behind all these different sorts of animals and plants - why this ridiculous redundancy? But your revelation of a noodly appendage guiding all things has supplied the missing recipe for truly understanding this interwoven chaos of diversity. What could be plainer, once one has gazed on one of His manifestations, gilded with ground Parmesan, bathed in the blood of tomatoes, hallowed with the incense of basil and oregano, than the conclusion that only a transcendent being such as He could have conceived of the profoundly tangled connections that are revealed by researches into ecology and evolution. A personal relationship with Pasta should not be an option - it should be mandated, and be available on special Friday and Saturday nights.“ –Dr Mark Hutchinson (Adelaide, South Australia)

    “As geneticist, my personal belief in the creator of everything was so far, that he resembles a pink invisible flying rabbit circling the earth just opposite the sun, and soundlessly squeaking “42″. In consequence, this creature is undetectable even by the most advanced human techniques. Furthermore, the ability of being pink and invisible at the same time provides proof for real allmightyness. However, Pastafarianism seems to be much more substantiated, and is not violating Occam’s razor (see comment of S. Bilson-Thompson), and follows pure philosophical logic, as colleague Brian D. Rabern has pointed out previously. Therefore, I am sure that the members of the Kansas Board of Education, who gave logic a particular importance, will honor these undisputable facts by including FSM in their curriculum, thereby setting highest educational standards also for non-US countries. - Additionally, the invisible pink rabbit hypothesis might be discussed if there could be some time spared in the pupil’s schedule. RAmen “ –Jobst Meyer, PhD, Professor of Behavioral Genetics

    “The first bottle of Lambrusco I chugged in High School some 30 years ago washed my full immersion baptism into the Baptist faith away. The second bottle I chugged that night resulted in a pasta “vision” that, sadly, I was too blind and covered in noodles to understand. Now, after a long career as a Biologist and educator, I see the light. If you form a curriculum committee, keep me in mind.”
    – Jeff Young, Ph.D.

    seriously how many more qualified people do you need?
    RAmen brotha

  11. 11 nikkiee Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:51 pm

    Attention: New Commandment…..”Thou shalt not laugh”

  12. 12 -f Oct 22nd, 2006 at 10:53 pm

    It’s not my post I’m replying to. Its yours.
    I’m doing the same thing as you: I’ve been browsing through the forums, throwing in my two cents wherever I feel like it. I may be an idiot, but I’m no more an idiot than anyone else here. What is a forum for if not for discussing or arguing? I don’t believe in drive-by insults. At the very least, I prefer to stick around and watch them take effect.

  13. 13 f- you -f Oct 22nd, 2006 at 11:20 pm

    I sincerely disgree with you. In order to obtain a doctorate, it doesn’t take a dedication to time, it takes the potential mental capacity to do so. Something that not everyone is capable. It only takes time to reach that mental capacity. And as you might know, because you seem to be pretty defensive and cocky, that part of the process to obtain your Ph.D is a research/analysis section. Meaning that these people have to be able to think both logically and extremely abstractly. That to me constitutes intelligent in every sense of the word. Moreover, mainstream religion is so fatally flawed that it only does take a few simple SCIENTIFIC facts to disprove the bible and what it stands for (ex. the age of the planet. It is obviously older than 5 or 6 thousand years). Even if FSM does atract a few people who are a bit retarded (slowed down) it also attracts many more of us who are intelligent (I’m not saying I’m a genious but I am intelligent). AND so what religion wouldn’t even compare.

    I’m sorry if you disagree with me, but i don’t feel like wasting any more time arguing with you and will not reply.

  14. 14 RAT Oct 22nd, 2006 at 11:51 pm

    f,
    Please stop because you make me laugh - which is obviously draining my intelligence!

  15. 15 -f Oct 22nd, 2006 at 11:54 pm

    “It only takes time to reach that mental capacity.”
    As you said yourself, intelligence can be achieved. Not everyone is capable, but most are. Many intelligent people choose not to, because they have weighed their other options and see no reason for it.
    I never argued that people with PhDs aren’t intelligent. That is a misinterpretation of what was said. That argument cannot be pursued very far. What I did was question the value of a PhD endorsement of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
    The Flying Spaghetti Monster, by it’s nature, does not attract intelligent people. The opposition to teaching Intelligent Design in science class certainly does.

  16. 16 RAT Oct 23rd, 2006 at 12:09 am

    -f

    I think you have missed the point entirely!

    I am curious to know what you are doing with your vast intellegence. Are you fighting against world poverty, are you protecting children from abuse? I mean what the F##K is your point?

  17. 17 Reverend Aquaman Oct 23rd, 2006 at 12:16 am

    I just think that this site is a good way for all of us to take ourselves and a our beliefs and just laugh at ourselves, no matter what we believe in.

    I think the big problem with the world today, from my perspective, is that we all just need to be a bit more tolerant of each other. I know that is not a the most popular-practised idea. But I find that at the basis of most of these religions is tolerance and understanding of your fellow brother or sister.

    I think that FSM is great and really puts a smile on my face.

    I have always believed that pirates were mystical. Good to find someone else who shares my beliefs.

    RA

  18. 18 Solo Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:17 am

    “Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke”

    Sir, you are confusing the word “intelligent” for “busy”.

    Intelligent people have all the time they want to devote to anything they fancy. Busy people, it can be argued, have little time for anything but what they consider important. And even they there may be some busy people finding the chrurch of FSM an important topic of research.

    I consider you do not have a point and label you irremediably as a buffoon.

  19. 19 nikkiee Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:23 am

    RAmen Solo!

  20. 20 nikkiee Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:26 am

    …It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature….
    I personally disagree. I have seen wonderful, as well as many, displays of intelligence at this site.

  21. 21 nubsawce Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:34 am

    Basicly, lets take what -f has to say litteraly:
    Intelligent people have no sense of humour. If we were to take this seriously, we’d find that he cannot be intelligent (as he browses this site, and therefore has some sort of sense of humour). And therefore either way, if he’s right or wrong he musn’t be taken seriously. Foolproof logic :)

    I’m sorry, but if you “don’t have time for the joke”, you don’t have time to live life, for what it was ment for.

    Frick, even Dawkins has a good sense of humour, he was on colbert for god sakes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he visits this site regularly.

  22. 22 Davey Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:41 am

    Hello -f,
    .
    First of all, let me start by saying that I’m not going to *personally* insult you.
    .
    I’m educated to GCE level. Here in the UK (I don’t know where you’re based, so I’ll explain the whole thing, for the benefit of other posters if nothing else), that’s the exams you take at the age of 16. You can leave school after that, which I did. No college, no University. I’m seriously uneducated.
    .
    However…
    .
    I run a successful business (my third), designing and developing software. I play music, I climb, I involve myself in local politics. I debate *anything* with my friends. I read *lots* (not just trash thrillers and detective novels, either - although they’re fun in their own way). I correspond with lots of people via email.
    .
    Most people that know me don’t believe that I never went to University, but I didn’t. Some of the most intelligent people I personally know didn’t - they got on with becoming millionaires instead.
    .
    I spend time posting to this board because I have time on my hands right now - I’m on a break, between contracts. I don’t find that I’m getting any dumber by having a rest!
    .
    I guess the points I’m trying to make here are:
    .
    a) Education is no indication of intelligence - you can be dead smart without one.
    .
    b) Having time on your hands is no indication of intelligence - in fact, I’d say the smartest people can probably afford more leisure time.
    .
    c) None of the above negates the common experience here that most (but by no means all) the commentators that come here to knock FSM *miss its point* - and what inference are we to draw from that? They’re somehow *too smart* to get the joke?
    .
    d) Finally, if someone’s in too big a hurry to read what FSM is about, properly, before posting a negative comment about it, then no, that doesn’t neccessarily make the unintelligent. But it does make them a jerk.

  23. 23 Martien Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:58 am

    “Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke”

    This is a joke, right? I laughed when I read it. So I conclude that -f has time for a joke. So from this argument I can draw the logical conclusion that -f is not genuine, or not intelligent, or neigther.

  24. 24 Don Lardini Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:02 am

    Now let us all huddle together and re-affirm our faith in Him before engaging in a time consuming and mind numbing counting of the pasta. I shall bury my head in the pasta and I shall receive the comfort of knowing that there is a monster; and he is made of spaghetti. And he took up the sauce. And low his meatballs were placed to the right and to the left. And the strands of spaghetti, though initially tepid were elevated to a state of warmth.

    Rejoice ye all. RAmen.

  25. 25 nikkiee Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:06 am

    @Davey
    “Education is no indication of intelligence - you can be dead smart without one.”
    .
    Something I always quoted when people said “you must be smart to be going to uni”
    I also informed them that what was most demanded in studying for a degree was interest, time and effort. But if you really wanted to, yu could get past with time and effort.

    “Some of the most intelligent people I personally know didn’t - they got on with becoming millionaires instead.”
    .
    I agree. The flip side is, while they aren’t the majority, I’ve really had to wonder how some students got into uni in the first place, let alone walked out with a degree.
    .
    RAmen

  26. 26 Martien Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:18 am

    Thank you for pointing us in the right direction, Don Lardini.
    Pass the sauce and reaffirm the holy experience of being touched by his noodly appendages.

    More beer.

  27. 27 The Aussie Oct 23rd, 2006 at 3:39 am

    I’m drawn once more to consider a Larson comic, posted by someone oh so central to this argument.

  28. 28 One Eyed Jack Oct 23rd, 2006 at 5:33 am

    Not really dead on topic here, but we’re talking about intelligence, so I thought I would paste this link from one of my other favorite sites, Phil Plait’s “Bad Astronomy”. It appears science is once again on notice from the Catholic Church:
    .
    http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2006/10/22/pope-of-wax/
    .
    I truly love Phil’s last two paragraphs. It’s amazing how often religous pundits fail to notice the irony in their own statements.
    .
    OEJ

  29. 29 Ketchup Oct 23rd, 2006 at 7:10 am

    Some of the wittiest, most genuinely funny people I know have PhDs in Math, Physics and Computer Science (generally considered signs of intelligence). The reverse also seems to hold true, as all those people with PhDs that I know are almost universally possessed of sharp wit and good sense of humor.

    Personally, I think you have to be at least reasonably intelligent to appreciate the humor of FSM. Ramen, intelligent brothers.

  30. 30 The Aker Oct 23rd, 2006 at 8:02 am

    The entire point of these intellectuals endorsing the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not to prove that he exists, but that if an omnipotent being exists, it is just as accurate to call it “god” as it is to call it “Flying Spaghetti Monster”. And as to the whole anti-humor campaign, you can either live life taking it seriously and focusing on the negatives, or its possible to try to help people via science and still get a good laugh out of it before you die. Personally, I know which I choose.

  31. 31 Phil Plait Oct 23rd, 2006 at 9:31 am

    First, thanks for the link, One-Eyed-Jack!

    Second, I’m not bragging or nothing, but I’m kinda smart. And I do get FSM. Maybe my intelligence isn’t genuine, though. Could I be a knock-off intellectual? That would suck.

  32. 32 Zen Oct 23rd, 2006 at 11:33 am

    @ -f

    For someone who obviously considers themselves to be of far greater intelligence than the rest of us, I notice that you seem to be spending an awful lot of time on here - in fact far more time than I do. Please tell us, who are you trying to convince with your “intelligence” - us…or yourself? We understand if you don’t the joke - and apprantly you don’t. Or at least if you do get the joke, you have to learn how to take one. So please, join us in thriving from His Noodley Appendage, if you choose not to, it’s your choice, but why waste your “intelligence” on something you seem to find so dumb and mundane?

  33. 33 Adam H Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:35 pm

    To those who were talking about intelligence and degrees a gew posts back i agree that not all smart people go to uni and apparently the pass mark for a degree in medecine is 50% - just a little something to prove the point about some people who go to uni not being tht bright. I say apparently because i got tht info randomly from the teacher during a stats lesson he said he was at uni with some people who did medecine. Can any 1 confirm if 50% is the pass mark and then post, please?

  34. 34 liz Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm

    F
    there are several levels of intelligence, only one of them academia. There is also street smarts and applicable intelligence. I know of many people who are intelligent and have PHD’s but lack the ability to draw a corelation between a no parking sign and a parking ticket. Trust me, i’ve written enough tickets to have published a book on the topic. (working on it)
    furthermore, I have met many people who have not gone to university and have led successful lives in the business sector. It’s all relative to the work that they do. the same is true for FSM. For my own curiousity, do you have a degree? Are you educated? I am sure the rest of us ‘unintelligent’ posters would love to know where….what’s the phrase/ oh yes we would like to know where you get off telling us we must be unintelligent.
    Read the gospel buddy. Especailly the ‘I’d rather you didn’t’ Section.
    RAmen

  35. 35 Nick2 Oct 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 pm

    I consider myself a generally intelegent person. I come here in my spare time.

  36. 36 gill Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:10 pm

    -f – “Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.”—Actually, I’ve come across quite a few scientists, doctors, so on so forth…and me, of course, I’m no moron. *cough*
    “But in a discussion about religion, their opinion is no more enlightened, no more informed, and no more valuable than yours,”—so does that mean no one is ever allowed to have an opinion on religion but those who majored in studying it? Anyone who can get a PhD in ANYTHING is intelligent enough to consider carefully the many quirks of religion and form an intellectual opinion. I’d certainly trust them over the white trash down the street. (Assuming there is, in fact, white trash down the street near you.)

  37. 37 Anna Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:26 pm

    You’ve been annoying me for some time. For one thing, getting a diploma in any field implies that you had the mental potential and stamina needed to attain that goal. Going to college for 4 years or more, you generally pick up other knowledge in addition to the stuff you paid for. I would assume that most (if not all) of the people who regularly post here are fairly intelligent, not only from the content of the posts, but by the comonly known fact that most smart people love funny stuff.

  38. 38 Nowtheworldhasmeaning Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:28 pm

    -f,
    .
    Please tell me what qualifications you have? Come come, let us know what educational heights you have acheived, up to PHD? If not FUCK OFF!

  39. 39 Enlightened. Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:30 pm

    “Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke, so what we get is people who know nothing and want a place to mock religion, as well as people who have read up a bit on evolution or have read up on Dawkins and have a few points on which they can argue.

    And here I thought that being genuinely intelligent was what permitted me to have the time to read websites like this, in as much as it requires a bit of ingenuity, critical and executive thinking, and technical proficiency (my work has been called the product of genius, but I am far too humble to mention it) to cram as much as I do into my day and still have a decent amount of goof-off time.

    Thank you for enlightening me. I now know that I am only superficially intelligent, as opposed to genuinely so.

  40. 40 Enlightened. Oct 23rd, 2006 at 2:33 pm

    “Are we reading the same forums here? Tell me they are not full of morons.”

    Typically we refer to them by their religious affiliation. “Morons” is really harsh. For shame.

  41. 41 Marcus Marinara Oct 23rd, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    “Typically we refer to them by their religious affiliation. “Morons” is really harsh. For shame.”
    .
    Yes, I think this is a typo: he meant “Mormons”.

  42. 42 Peter Oct 23rd, 2006 at 3:44 pm

    “It’s not accurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent followers by its nature. Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke…”
    Actually, I think it’s the truly intelligent who realize humor is one of (if not the) most important things in life. If you can’t laugh, why bother living?

  43. 43 metaphysical naturalist Oct 23rd, 2006 at 4:31 pm

    Wait, so you actually think that getting a PhD is simply a matter of studying hard? That intelligence is in no way inherited or socialized?

  44. 44 One Eyed Jack Oct 23rd, 2006 at 6:12 pm

    I knew Phil Plait was a Pastafarian. Had to be. hehe.
    .
    OEJ

  45. 45 SaucyWench Oct 23rd, 2006 at 6:39 pm

    One of the things I love about this site is how intelligent and witty so many Pastafarians are. I’m not one to debate theology, and I don’t have a PhD, yet I’m no fool. There are plenty of intelligent posters of the non-Pastafarian type also, but I don’t find them very amusing. I admire those of us who debate Christians on their own terms, however. Now, I have to go look for a vegetable costume for Halloween. My department at work has been instructed to dress up as vegetables.

  46. 46 Travis Oct 23rd, 2006 at 6:42 pm

    If you are under the age of 20 you are automaticly stupid- According to -f’s logic, since you can’t have a PHD @ that point. So basicly, wasting many years of your life @ an academic institution = intelligent. Just thought i’d sum it up

  47. 47 RAT Oct 23rd, 2006 at 7:25 pm

    -f,
    God loves you, everybody else….
    Sorry -f, a bit below the belt but hey it makes me laugh and drains my intellect!!
    Can you tell me is intelligence a requirement to get into Heaven?

  48. 48 PirateyMorgan Oct 23rd, 2006 at 7:53 pm

    I’d just like to say that this is just hilarious. Look at all the people getting worked up because we believe in FSM instead of God. Hello people! What happened to religious freedom? Oh, since I’m a pastafarian, I’m stupid and deserve to go to hell? Yeah, all of you people getting worked up about this make me laugh till I pee!

  49. 49 Puttanesca Oct 23rd, 2006 at 8:47 pm

    And I’ll still be laughing after I pass away, as I quaff from the beer volcano and watch those handsome strippers rolling off the assembly line! Ramen!

  50. 50 Obscurans Oct 24th, 2006 at 12:19 am

    Travis: I’m 15, in university 2nd yr and I see no reason why I can’t have a PhD before 20…
    -f you.
    Oh, and stop this discussion. The “intelligence” -f’s talking about is only “christian intelligence”, which is equal to 1/(academic knowledge). -f’s intelligence is infinity, while ours is 0.

  51. 51 Opa-Opa Oct 24th, 2006 at 12:31 am

    “Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke,”

    Thank you. I hate how people always think genuinely intelligent people like us have the time to process anything other than completely bare statements of fact. As if I could possibly dedicate my precious brain cycles to the terribly obfuscated idea behind the FSM. It would just take so much mind juice to even begin to think about it.

    Just the other day, the following exchange took place between me and a good friend of mine:
    Him: “Knock Knock!”
    Me: “SHUT UP CAN’T YOU SEE I’M BEING GENUINELY INTELLIGENT”

  52. 52 nikkiee Oct 24th, 2006 at 12:31 am

    @Obscurans
    “christian intelligence”
    Yet another oxymoron! There are so many good ones on this site.
    RAmen

  53. 53 nikkiee Oct 24th, 2006 at 1:40 am

    @Opa-Opa
    …Him: “Knock Knock!”……
    Who’s there?

  54. 54 shawn Oct 24th, 2006 at 7:23 am

    “Genuinely intelligent people don’t have time for the joke”
    Jokes take no time at all. Either you get it or you dont. Then its funney or it isnt. I dont see as how the joke part takes any time at all. Or is it that intelligent people dont participate in jokes. Are you saying that all intelligent people are boring, glum and joke free?

  55. 55 mopert Oct 24th, 2006 at 10:53 am

    Hey F-!
    You said the expertise of PhDs is narrow. They know about the field they have worked on, so why should they know more about religion than anybody else? This is your point, right?
    So here is an answer. Getting a PhD is more than remembering random shit. Having a PhD means making a scientific carrier, specifying and in fact narrowing the field of work. When you do this, you get fucking aware of the fact that you cannot study the whole world, and you will stay ignorant in many respects. But why should this keep one from studiying, from trying to understand the world? The question is how to treat ignorance.

    And this is the point where science and religion differ. Science accepts ignorance, religion does not. A scientist knows that he doesn’t know shit - but he also knows that he could investigate things and would, with patience, find out. For religious people, there is nothing you they don’t know (or, from the scientist’s view, they do not accept their ignorance and are too fucking lazy to switch on their brains). In religion, everything you don’t know - is GOD! (sorry, I of course would say the Spaghetti monster). By the way, in logic, you call this “argumentum ad ignorantiam”.

    Believe what you want, but if you can switch on your brains and think about it… realize that religion and science are perspectives - and fucking are different.

    Greetz, mopert!

  56. 56 liz Oct 24th, 2006 at 11:32 am

    I heard einstien had a wicked sense of humour……look at the hair….nuff said…

  57. 57 shukuchi Oct 24th, 2006 at 3:17 pm

    You specified intelligence. Do your responses mean everyone who does not study religion is unintelligent? And how many Christians do get a PHD in religion? I’m willing to bet that a lot of them choose other subjects. So what makes them more qualified than us?

    Also, I’ve got to say that unintelligent people would go “lol, spagetti” and forget about the FSM. Intelligent ones would get the purpose and continue to be amused and support this new God.

  58. 58 lunchlady Oct 24th, 2006 at 6:32 pm

    I agree with SaucyWench - I find Pastafarians to be seriously funny as well as seriously (or is that genuinely?) intelligent, as a whole. There are many witty folks hanging out here. Plus, there’s the fun of being a pirate.
    lunchlady
    PS Too bad you have to be a vegetable for Halloween at work, SaucyWench - I get to wear my full pirate regalia (well, except I have to leave my pistol and sword at home), and go to school and feed my students pasta!

  59. 59 Steven J Oct 25th, 2006 at 1:23 am

    Tell you what. When you can present to me evidence that you are right, and FSM is wrong- then I will convert to whatever religion you are. But you have to present evidence against thousands of years of time that your religion didnt’ exist, present a logical explanation for the countless inconsistencies in your holy book, explain why your religion is “more” correct than the thousands of other religions that present the reason “because god said so”… actually… how about you just email me; I have a checklist.

  60. 60 SaucyWench Oct 25th, 2006 at 4:03 am

    lunchlady, how lucky you are! Now wait a minute, though. Couldn’t I at least pay a little homage to His Noodliness and go as tomato or spinach pasta of some kind? I think that qualifies as a vegetable. At the very least, it would confuse people.

  61. 61 Lamna Oct 25th, 2006 at 6:28 am

    I thought einstin liked a laugth, so he was either fakeing it or he was a idiot and FSM was takeing over him to create his ideas.

  62. 62 i dunno i laught to much Oct 25th, 2006 at 6:48 am

    Actually Einstien couldn’t spell his own name.

  63. 63 lunchlady Oct 25th, 2006 at 11:05 am

    Hey, SaucyWench, if Reagan could declare ketchup a vegetable as part of school lunch, I don’t see why His Noodliness couldn’t declare spinach fettucine a vegetable as well. Then, with some sauce and meatballs, you would certainly be a complete and balanced tribute to Pastafarianism! (and don’t forget the beer!)

  64. 64 Anna Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    I wish the lunchladies at my school were followers of his holy noodle. Twould be much more amusing. Mabye I can convert them….
    And some beer is made from vegetables(not just grain), isn’t it? Mabye that’s rum I’m thinking of. well, I know you can make SOMETHING alcoholic from the green stuff.

  65. 65 the mace Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:56 pm

    well duh its not acurate to say that FSM attracts intelligent FOLLOWERS.
    its just satire, i hope no one honest-to-goodness follows it like a real religion.
    FSM does, however, gather groups of evolution-supporting, logic-using, in-general smart people. and thats good.

  66. 66 the mace Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:58 pm

    and i think everyone here would protest to the phrase “people who know nothing”…

  67. 67 lunchlady Oct 25th, 2006 at 4:15 pm

    Anna
    While I can’t actually prosthyletize (sp? too lazy to spellcheck) at school, and the parents would be horrified if I even mentioned His Noodly Goodness, I can and do support “Pasta Your Way” day, every Thursday, so hopefully as these kids grow up, they will come to love Him, and all He stands for, as much as I do…
    Next year, I’m going to promote TLAPD Day, too!
    What fun!
    (Gues I won’t mention Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory, either)

  68. 68 B Oct 25th, 2006 at 4:49 pm

    We are here therefore we are not smart.

    You are here therefore you are not smart.

    RAmen

  69. 69 ND Oct 25th, 2006 at 7:02 pm

    Well, if you want to go my George Bush, apparently your religion doesn’t attract very intelligent followers either. At least the people here know how to take a joke and use proper grammar, but hey, I guess knowing how to use the language you speak every day of your life is just below your level of “intelligence”, right?

  70. 70 PastaServer134 Oct 26th, 2006 at 12:22 am

    It’s true the FSM does not ATTRACT intelligent followers; the FSM just CREATED us that way.

  71. 71 hexhunter Oct 26th, 2006 at 4:55 am

    this is really offending me people, take back your blasphemous words and accept the FSM in your heart, or die and go to hell…

    anyway, my IQ is 126, apparantly average is 100, and I just recieved my ‘Gospel of the FSM’. may I ask what your IQ is -f??? and if any other pastafarians, evolutionists or ‘intelligent’ designisters wish to include theirs, mabye with a link, perhaps we can solve this?

  72. 72 Obscurans Oct 26th, 2006 at 5:01 am

    Don’t use the scientific scale of IQ.
    .
    Use the christian scale of IQ, defined as 1/(knowledge)
    .
    Therefore his IQ is infinity, and ours is just plain 0 (arbitrarily near to).

  73. 73 Obscurans Oct 26th, 2006 at 5:01 am

    BTW: mine is 153, and the average is going up all the time (maybe education gets better)?

  74. 74 naijiew Oct 26th, 2006 at 9:22 am

    Well, if Dawkins is all you know, then you probably have to read up more. Most of Dawkins books are actually very good assimilations of major ideas from many different scientists. If you would to go and read up on books and scientific papers from every single scientists involved in evolution, you’ll probably be able to get your Masters in Evolutionary Bio right away. Hence Dawkins books are highly recommended since they are targeted at the layman too, the language not too technical and bla…
    .
    You can try Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, Stephen Jay Gould, James Watson, and for a more balanced view The Language of God by Francis Collins, an evangelical christian and the head of the human genome project. However, I believe most freethinkers/atheists would arrive at the same conclusion they had initially anyway…
    .
    It’s not accurate to say FSM attracts smart people.
    It’s not accurate to say Christianity attracts smart people neither.
    You can’t say Christians are all moral.
    You can’t say Atheists are all moral.
    You just can’t make 2 lists of names and start comparing… it’s 3-year-old’s logic at it’s best.

  75. 75 Smartypants Oct 26th, 2006 at 9:26 am

    well. I’m reel smart ‘n stuff. U can tell I’m reeeel smart cuz my daddy got me inta a gud skool by payin dem lotsa moneys. Dat’s kewl. I ran some bisnesses inta th’ ground befor I sold ‘em to my daddy’s frends. I jus know i’m way smarter ‘n enybody else. Lissen ta this: “Nuuuu-kleee-yer!” See! Smarter ‘n the President! I’d lyk ta see HIM pruh-nounce that!

  76. 76 hexhunter Oct 26th, 2006 at 9:43 am

    Bill Bryson’s ‘A short histroy of nearly everything’, even my Mum was able to read it. I can’t imagine a person could actually read it and still be into ID…

  77. 77 Enya Oct 26th, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    ID is just for uneducated people who desperately want to be ’scientists’. It is so full of inconsistencies that it hurts. It only works on isolated, unsophisticated people, who desperately look for easy answers. Without wanting to offend anyone, but that is why it works best in the USA, sad, but true.

  78. 78 Enya Oct 26th, 2006 at 12:21 pm

    by the way, English is a foreign language to me. Can you, dear -f, argue in a language foreign to you? I guess I never laughed enogh :’(

  79. 79 hi-IQ Oct 26th, 2006 at 1:37 pm

    This is my favorite website. The first time I saw it I laughed so hard I cried. I share it with other ‘un-intelligent’ people, too. They also agree it is a great site. Did I mention that according to the Stanford-Binet test my IQ is 162? Well above genius. Or that I attended highly-gifted magnet schools from second grade to senior year of HS? But hey, who believes in phony intelligence tests anyway?

  80. 80 Devil Ponies Oct 26th, 2006 at 1:58 pm

    Actually, I did an entire essay on the diffrence between ID and evolution, and it got published in the newspaper…Now a stupid person couldn’t do that. Plus whats the point of being intelligent if your a stuck of prude that everyone hates…Where’s the fun in that?

  81. 81 Devil Ponies Oct 26th, 2006 at 1:58 pm

    Actually, I did an entire essay on the diffrence between ID and evolution, and it got published in the newspaper…Now a stupid person couldn’t do that. Plus whats the point of being intelligent if your a stuck up prude that everyone hates…Where’s the fun in that?

  82. 82 Nowtheworldhasmeaning Oct 26th, 2006 at 3:25 pm

    In a way he the openning post is kind of correct, I mean we are not actually showing are full potential here. Then again I don’t really need my full potential to out wit a christian!

  83. 83 supa size me Oct 26th, 2006 at 6:05 pm

    It seems like you have time for the joke, otherwise you would not have sent this hate-mail.

  84. 84 Hacbarton Oct 26th, 2006 at 8:12 pm

    That statement itself is idiotic…any fool can believe in a god (any god) because a book or their parents told them to…to look beyond that takes not only guts and self-confidence but a brief sense of logic that isn’t circular (”I believe in this book” “why?” “because it told me to”)….and about the web site….any fool can read and comprehend something; only the knowing can enjoy the joke.

  85. 85 liz Oct 27th, 2006 at 7:11 am

    Last time I checked, sheep (and other easily led livestock) didn’t have very large mental capacities. Shocking that those who follow blindly would be attacking those who think for themselves. something to ponder I’m sure.

  86. 86 Jack Sparrow Oct 27th, 2006 at 9:05 am

    Betcha my IQ is higher than yourse!

  87. 87 Brother Boyardee Oct 27th, 2006 at 11:37 am

    > what we get is people who know nothing and want
    > a place to mock religion

    -f,

    I believe you are confusing divine inspiration with mocking. To be sure, there are some parallels between Pastafarianism and Christianity, but just the parts that by chance, or by His noodly inspiration, Christians got right, such as the creation of the world by a single “Creator” (in 7 days for Christians, in 0.062831853 seconds, approximately, for Pastafarians). This is not a mocking of Christianity - Christians deserve credit for getting a few things right - and Pastafarians are not afraid to give credit where credit is due.

    We Pastafarians simply want a level playing field - let all religions/theories be free - let them all be taught. If you truly believed in religious freedom you would be a supporter of Pastafarianism.

    As for Dawkins, well again Christians and Pastafarians, can find some common ground. Dawkins has famously said that “religion is the root of all evil”. I don’t know about the Christian god, but how can “noodly goodness” be “evil” - by definition that is not possible, so Dawkins is wrong.

    I would urge you -f, and you Mr Dawkins, to open your hearts to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and let him into your life.

    Go in garlicy peace my friends.

    Brother Boyardee

  88. 88 Kaysie Oct 27th, 2006 at 1:33 pm

    I just stumbled across this site, and had a good chuckle out of this thread.

    I’ve always said “Life, no one gets out alive”. So you can either have a good time, enjoy yourself, enjoy the finer things in life. Or you can take everything totally seriously and be completely miserable for the rest of your life. Me? I think I’ll chuckle and ponder the more amusing things I stumble across…

  89. 89 SeanJA Oct 27th, 2006 at 1:34 pm

    I think you guys scared him away…

    –Sean

  90. 90 Jeremy Oct 27th, 2006 at 1:48 pm

    It’s true. Smart people have no time for humor. I looked it up…seriously.

  91. 91 shannonbanana Oct 27th, 2006 at 2:00 pm

    you’ve got to be kidding me. if you all take any of this stuff seriously you are just letting everyone know that you are very niave.sp? this site is ment to be humorus and prove a point. the point is that if intelligent design which is strictly based on faith alone can be taught is schools then why can’t something absurd as the flying spagetti monster? i am not saying that faith is a bad thing, i am not an atheist, but it should definitly not be taught in schools as a science.. that’s what church is for. there is much more evidence that supports evolution than that supports intelligent design and therefore, intelligent design should not be taught as a science.

  92. 92 Uomo Felice Della Pasta Oct 27th, 2006 at 5:44 pm

    By American law I am not yet an adult, but I have an IQ over 50 points above the U.S.A average. In general, yes we are a clever lot.

  93. 93 J Oct 27th, 2006 at 6:00 pm

    @ Jack Sparrow,
    .
    You are confusing me. You are named after a paragon of piraticality, but your posts suggest to me an anti-pastafarian trend.
    .
    Lay yer cards on the table, ye scabrous dog. Arr ye with us, or ‘gainst us?

  94. 94 nikkiee Oct 27th, 2006 at 6:51 pm

    @Devil Ponies
    “Actually, I did an entire essay on the diffrence between ID and evolution, and it got published in the newspaper…”
    Post it for us.
    @liz Oct 27th, 2006 at 7:11 am
    “Last time I checked, sheep (and other easily led livestock) didn’t have very large mental capacities. ”
    Spot on liz.

  95. 95 Snotty Boot the Pirate Oct 28th, 2006 at 9:42 pm

    Most genuinley intelligent people have a sence of humor.

  96. 96 Crazy Delicious Oct 28th, 2006 at 11:41 pm

    Uhhh inteligent people like humor to. You don’t like the FSM fine, just dont call us all stupid when you have no proff were all as brain dead as you claim. You probly dont even know any of us personaly either so go make fun of people you know are retarted to make yourself feel better.

  97. 97 Ted Linguini Oct 28th, 2006 at 11:50 pm

    As someone who often eats bagels, I feel eminently qualified to expound on this matter of intelligence and how it is represented within the FSM community as a whole. Having only been knocked unconscious twice, I believe in the FSM. Having eaten more acid than TUMS and Rolaids combined, I stil can’t get stupid enough to believe in Adam, Eve, unicorns, Noah or tea leaves.

    IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION, THEN DON’T GET A FLU SHOT THIS YEAR!

    (Allow me to explain for the un-intelligent design loonies. Influenza viruses mutate (evolve) constantly so that each new strain must be identified and an anti-viral must be developed. However, in a world where there is no evolution, then this must not actually happen. Belive that if you will and skip the flu shot. Perhaps a few idiots will not fare so well with an untreated sickness and the herd will be culled of a few IQ curve-killers.

    Take faith and twirl it on a fork.

    Arrrhhhhgghhhhh. Ramen

  98. 98 Mike Meier Oct 29th, 2006 at 11:52 am

    -f seems to confuse intelligence with leisure time.
    .
    Is there a correlation between intelligence and free time? Do smart people work more than not-so-smart people because they are working on difficult projects (some do), or less because they’ve got figured things out and don’t have to work so hard to earn a living? Probably both.
    .
    You have to be pretty smart AND motivated AND dedicated to get a PhD. While not having a PhD doesn’t mean one is not intelligent, motivated, or dedicated.
    .
    Obviously this site attracts people from all intelligence levels, but it’s the hate mail that proves “f’s point.

  99. 99 NeoPiratical Oct 29th, 2006 at 1:24 pm

    @BroBoy
    Oct 27th, 2006 at 11:37 am
    .
    “[T]here are some parallels between Pastafarianism and Christianity … such as the creation of the world by a single “Creator” (in 7 days for Christians, in 0.062831853 seconds, approximately, for Pastafarians).”
    .
    I thought it was 10-12 minutes (or until the noodles are ‘al dente’). Then drain and serve with a delicious Saucy Wench and a tasty beer. However, I consulted the GOTFSM and - Y’aaargh! Enlightenment on page 51!
    .
    However, I found no requirement that I forgo Saucy Wenches and tasty beer, so my belief in the wisdom of Pastafarianism is unshaken.
    .
    May we all be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
    .
    RAmen!

  100. 100 paul Oct 29th, 2006 at 7:45 pm

    If you say that intelligent people are not attracted to pastafarianism, then their fields of expertiese are of no consequence. As soon as you say that an intelligent person is attracted to pastafarianism, then intelligent people ARE in fact attracted to it. you cannot say they they do not when by your own admission they do. the idea of them being “and exception to a rule” is likewise stupid, because by your own admission they are intelligent, and attracted to pastafarianism.

    period.

  101. 101 Sean Oct 30th, 2006 at 5:13 am

    I can easily rebut this comment because I myself am genuinely intelligent. I have a literally perfect academic record, including qualifications in maths, physics, chemistry, biology, geology and astronomy. Presently, I’m reading for a degree in Earth Sciences at St. Edmund Hall in the University of Oxford, which I fully expect to follow up with a doctorate. I have been collecting geological specimens and scientific textbooks for most of my life.

    Everything that I have seen and read in every field of science has confirmed the existence of His Noodliness. For example, the problem of wave-particle duality is completely solved by considering light and so on to be streams of wavy spaghetti.

    Yours as intimidatingly as possible,

    etc.

  102. 102 Zok Oct 30th, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    Does not attract intelligent followers? O RLY??? ;)

    http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelligence%20&%20religion.htm

  103. 103 A T H E I S T Oct 31st, 2006 at 12:02 am

    Don’t forget the Atheist’s Pope Richard Dawkins

  104. 104 PastaServer134 Nov 1st, 2006 at 11:31 am

    Above, Ted Linguini wrote “Take faith and twirl it on a fork.” This suggests a great tag line for the Church of the FSM:
    “Pastafarianism: Faith you can twirl on a fork.”

  105. 105 Max Globs Nov 1st, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    I have seen countless people debating over evolution, and I can conclude that their work achieved nothing. The IDers are so rooted in their faith that any evidence can be beaten by a simple “God did it.” That is where FSMism comes in; simple mockery and humor can expose the ridiculousness of some of the creationist ideas. If you are simply suggesting that most people on our forums are stupid, then you have wasted your time. The fact is that most people in this world are stupid. If you look at any community, you will probably find that most members are stupid. You are one of said stupid people. Congratulations, -f-er

  106. 106 Fr. Corpus Callosum Nov 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pm

    Thanks for the reference Zok! This is good stuff. Max: Long live ridicule of the stupid! Since we’re buried in the annoying fuckers we way as well have a little fun.

  107. 107 Max Globs Nov 1st, 2006 at 3:40 pm

    That’s the spirit!

  108. 108 Mad John Kidd Nov 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 am

    “Pastafarianism: Faith you can twirl on a fork.”
    I love it, matey.

  109. 109 Cap'n Jeni Nov 3rd, 2006 at 1:14 am

    I, too, agree with the new motto. I want a bumper sticker.
    .
    Like Hi IQ, my own IQ is 162. Pretty high. I also have three jobs and go to school, so I’m busy too. Yet I still have time to meander over to this site once or twice a day. Honestly, if I didn’t find the time to laugh, I’d probably go completely mad and start believing that an invisible man lived in the sky, had premarital sex with a fourteen year old, then later killed the resulting child and turned him into a zombie.

    You know, Jesus being a zombie explains a lot. Coming back from the dead, the brain eating… hmm…

  110. 110 Tom