While one may correctly say that evolution is a fraud, that is not to say that that same person “believes in†Creation as it is literally set forth in Genesis.
The answer is: We don’t know where we came from. Let’s find out.
Evolution is as much, if not more, of an irrational religion than what any Creationist spouts.
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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Look up Christian Think Tank, then come back and talk to me. :).
Relax. I was just making fun of you for all the times you’ve done that in this argument. {=)
Right, but mine were legitimate. You don’t back up your arguments with evidence. I have, and you’re playing the card stacking game with me. I’m used to this treatment, even from PHD Scientists sadly enough. That’d be the difference.
the earth isn’t 6000 years old. it is billions of years old. and yes, radioactive decay and carbon dating to prove so. just saying its false is ignorant.
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isn’t the real michael martin a philosopher at Boston university, not to mention, an atheist.
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uh oh, i guess he’s going to hell for being atheist. i know i’m going to hell. i just know that if there’s beer and women, i’m perfectly fine.
May his great noodlyness forgive me….
“Or perhaps, Jesus was a Liar, Lunatic or Lord? Would you like to go there with me….cause I’d highly doubt you’d want to mess with me here. ”
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Actually I’d go so far as to say that the character known as Jesus is fictional. There is actually very little evidence of his existance, other than the bible itself ( and lets face it this is the lest trust worthy article EVER).
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Using the bible as evidence is similar to using the Harry Potter books as evidence that Harry Potter is a real person. “look Potter is a real English name and Paddington station is real too, obviously he is a real person.”.
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So while I would not say anything directly about Jesus, because I believe he is a fictional character, the writes of this work of fiction are blatant liars, parhaps loonies who can tell it was 2000 years ago.
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Faith makes you ignorant, which in itself is not a crime but to be happy about your ignorance is the greatest crime ever for a human. Please wake up, I don’t think any of my posts will help you, but at least go and read some material regarding evolution and the age of the earth. After all I have read (and to my displeasure) can quote the bible, I have also read the Koran a few times, so I already know your side at least try learning about mine.
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I truely recommend Dawkins, the Blind watchmaker.
Oh for goodness sake! The Doc really, truly believes that the world is only 6000 years old! Hahahahahahaha! This is rich. Thank you so much, Doctor. This has made my day. So, Oral Roberts University gives PHD’s?
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Just a word to the wise, though: you need to credit where you are snitching your materials from. Otherwise you really could get into trouble. Because they are posted on a website that you can easily access does not mean that they are not someone’s intellectual property — although the intellectual part is debatable.
“Look up Christian Think Tank, then come back and talk to me. :).
Relax. I was just making fun of you for all the times you’ve done that in this argument. {=)
Right, but mine were legitimate. You don’t back up your arguments with evidence. I have, and you’re playing the card stacking game with me. I’m used to this treatment, even from PHD Scientists sadly enough. ”
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Evidence? what evidence do you need hundreds of books, websites and programs. Evolution is not a practical joke that has gone on since Darwin came up with it for “shits and giggles” thousands of scientists devote there lives to improving and learning by observation and testing.
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The evidence you presented regarding Jesus was not evidence, an empty tomb does not equil someone raising from the dead. Say for instance your Dog died you put it on the floor with a blanket over it, you come back and it is gone, do you think to yourself
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A) best get a cross and some holy water I have a vampire dog to catch
B) It must be Jesus’s dog, praise the lord
C) Someone has obviously moved it.
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Due to the time period for the tomb 2000 years you have a further D option, has in the course of 2000 years the body decayed to such an extent there is no evidence of the body anymore?
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It is obvious you have been brought up not to use logic when it comes to your faith but you really should try.
RAmen Captain RAmen. You’re sure to get a nice view of the beer volcanoe and a couple hundred strippers the way you’re headed!
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Tell me, oh well-read one, why we are not. (Because your explanation is not adequate, and its self defeating and false)…Please Doc. You don’t have to prove that we are not the sum of our biology because my explanation is not adequate, self-defeating and false? This is school yard pansy talk! I said we are the sum of our chemistry and biology( we are what we are because of our brains…which preceed MIND, can’t have mind without brain…). You said C.S Lewis says we are not, which I think means you say we are not. I said prove it, you said you don’t have to because my argument was somehow invalid. CHICKEN!! BAWK BAWWWK. Give me the one bit of evidence that says we are more than the sum of our parts. I can hold the universe in my mind. I can travel to places I’ve never been, and consider your god is my own. It is called imagination. Imagine that there is no god. Imagine that evolution is real. Can you? You claim debating ideas is your forte. Drop the double-speak and talk about imagination.
The good doctor seems to be a member of the WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com forum as well.
Ramen Pixel Pete, when you get to the big noodly harbour in the sky look for me ship “The Now the world has Meaning” she be docked to in the west ‘arbour. We’ll go a plunderin’ together.
What causes a post to “await moderation”??
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I didn’t say anything nasty in the post. There are two links to wikipedia for references, could that be it??
“What causes a post to “await moderationâ€??”
Perhaps this is an existential statement. I have been awaiting for years.
lol.
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I got this one one of my posts, and was just wondering why.
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“Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
Is Creationism Science? Sure it is……I have a tool, especially made for doing Creation science. It measures ’stuff’. When I pose the question “was man created by god, or did man evolve?” the tool says “man was created by god”. When i ask it to explain why evolution is wrong, it says “because nobody can prove it is right”. When I ask it to tell me why god created athiests, it says “free will”. When I use scientific tools, I can’t ask those kinds of questions. I can measure atoms, or length, or weight, or chemical composition etc. The answers I get aren’t in the form of ideas or beliefs. I get to decide what to believe based on how I interpret the evidence. I get to follow the bits and they lead to hypothesis, theory, fact; or to some conclusion I may have not even considered. When all of physics, astronomy etc. finally explain how everything works, you can go ahead and say “well, god created it that way”. That’s what happens with creationism. At first, god created the heavens and the earth. People said “well, ok, if the bible says so it must be true”. Then some unfortunate scientist sniffs out a lead, and challenges the creation scenario. He’s burned at the stake. No one argues for years. Pretty soon, more and more people are educated in the sciences, and now creationists say, “oh well, maybe it wasn’t as clear cut as god created everything like we said at first, but he had a hand in it.” It seems that as science marches forward, creationists keep conceeding ground and playing catch-up. You let us do the work. If you want to swoop in at the end and give god credit, go ahead. Not much of a contribution to humanity if you ask me.
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You have a magic 8 ball too??
This is a bit long, but worth reading. http://www.unm.edu/~humanism/socvsjes.htm
I was talking to marc
People keep posting too fast and making the conversation confusing!
My mom said the Magic 8 ball and the ouija board were bad, mmmkay?