You have GOT to be kidding me…seriously. The reason I ask, is because I truly wonder how you can conclude that a “Flying Spaghetti Monster†created and ordained life from before there was ANYTHING. I really would be interested to see your premises and conclusion in a semi-logical format. The other thing, is that I hope and pray that you realize your dreadful inaccuracy and pray that God would forgive you of your blasphemies. They are truly dishonoring at the least. Praying that you change,
The RkticFox










My math teacher enver really taught us anything he just sort of graded all of the tests and was surprised when half of us failed. THen there was my other math teacher who got exited about math, im not talking like, well this is kinda interesting, im talking, YOU GUYS WILL REALLY LIKE THIS!!!!!
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as semi-logical as God.
FSM pwns!
The RkticFox May his Noodlie Mightiness Make you Pasta dry and unpleasant!
Shut up.
Praying that you grow a few neurons,
Tabby.
Neurons grow? What sort of fertiliser do you use? Please don’t say bible clippings.
RAmen
Bible clippings would probably make a great paper-mache pinata, though!
(Oh my goodness, I’m going to burn for that, too…)
dude, the flying spaghetti monster is gonna eat you.
Omg teh spaghetti monster is t3h pwn. watch wat j00 says or t3h spaghetti monster will pwn you LOL!
Jesus. Jesus Christ. You lot really don’t get it, do you?
IT. IS. NOT. WHAT. ANYONE. REALLY. FUCKING. THINKS. WE. ARE JUST TAKING. THE. PISS. OUT. OF. RELIGON. IN. GENERAL.
I mean, if the Bible was nominated for an award, I think that the people who made it all up(Who are now laughing like drains at all of you Christians. In *Heaven*cough) would be pretty pissed if it was for Humor. I’ve read the Bible. It just takes the factor of trying to make you laugh at ludicrous suggestions too far.
You gotta love this site - especially the hatemail-section :)
Good FSM !!! (PBUH)
RAmen
It is so easy to mock and make fun of what others consider sacred. After reading the many responses on this site I am again convinced that Christianity has it right. “None are righteous, no not one”. Jesus was a real historical person. There is plenty of historical evidence to research about him. You think Plato and Aristotle were brilliant try reading the book of Romans in the Bible. Or try reading Aquinas or Augustine. Go to Monergism.com and pick out any number of great men who believed and have lived their lives serving the One God. Try doing a little research before you so loudly mock others who have spent their lives believing in the unseen God. Blabbering about what you do not understand is not a sign of anything but foolishness.
“Jesus was a real historical person. There is plenty of historical evidence to research about him. You think Plato and Aristotle were brilliant try reading the book of Romans in the Bible. Or try reading Aquinas or Augustine”
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all of the above is true, there was a MAN called Jesus, who undoubtedly had some noodly ideas about not killing each other and so on. There’s proof to this effect. I’ve never argued against this, indeed i’ve yet to see anyone argue against this. what profoundly disturbs me is how we make the leap from there to being the son of god, or indeed t here neing a god. just because someone has a bright idea (and i include aquinas who has some great non theological works to his name) does not make the fact that theres a deity true, even if they say so.
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Proof of one thing is not proof of another. Egyptian kings and queens definitely existed, there’s plenty of proof they existed - but were they living gods as they claim? proof of the first case is not proof of the devine.
Jim,
Telling us to do a little research before mouthing off is a little stupid, some of us have given examples of great knowledge and understanding of the bible, I have also manage to read through the Koran (I must admit to not having a great understanding). My relgious studies exam (GCSE) went swimmingly, as it was baised on Christianity and I’d had 16 year of Cathlic upbringing my understanding of the bible is strong.
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Not only this but of late I have been hugely interested in philosophy. And it is not just me I know plenty of people on this site have great back grounds and intellectual points to be shared and discussed. And while not all posts, are intellectual the site policy of non-censorship stands, I must admit that a few of my posts have used abusive and unintellectual comments but I reserve the right to reply as I see fit when I see fit. Plus fighting fire with fire while not correct is fun.
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This site is a great and entertaining way of getting across a point of view. The same way church sponsors used cartoonists to mock Darwin. Jim you should look at yourself and your own understanding of the point that is beuing made here to realise that it is not mocking for mockings sake but a protest.
Jim,
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You are right that history is filled with men that served god and accomplished great things. They really didn’t have a choice did they? It isn’t too far back in history that to denounce God was a one-way ticket to the chopping block or worse. No doubt some of those great thinkers were sincere in their beliefs, but a little fact checking will show the number of sincere theists declines as the choke hold of the church loosens. Today, you will be hard pressed to find many true theists among the intellectual greats.
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Incidently, there is good evidence from their own writings that many of the US Founding Fathers were not theists … deists perhaps, but not theists. Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Paine and John Adams are among the obvious, but I doubt they were alone in their views.
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As far as Aquinas goes, his ‘proofs’ are rarely cited today because the are easily proven flawed. The only one that is still used is the Teleological Argument, and I will gladly debate that with you since ID is what sparked this site.
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RAMen.
“Jesus was a real historical person. There is plenty of historical evidence to research about him.”
As spider already mentioned, Jesus did exist and no one can deny that, not even us pastafarians. He is a historical person who had great ideas and tried to make the world a better place, but what is highly debatable and unable to be proven is whether he was the son of God. This, I find too hard to believe.
My seriousness is over, for I feel I have proven my point.
As for the FSM, He is clearly real and shall not be debated! I have been touched by His Noodly Appendage, and have seen the light of the pasta… FSM is just as provable as God, and I would like you to slurp your bolognaise on that one!
Prove this point, my fellow pastafarians!
RAmen!
In retaliation, where is your proof that your “God” created life? An ancient book that has been translated from it’s original text? Well, we have a book too, so you can’t use that. I can’t see how your beliefs are any more logical than mine. Hey, at least my beliefs taste good.
Look what i found while looknig through the topic.
You’re kidding… right? So you belive spagetti and meatballs created the universe. You believe food created the deep blue seas, skys, and human beings? Whats next, Dog crap creating the Earth? All this is is an act of boredom, just like Darwin. He believed an explosion created the Earth, let me ask you something, when has an explosion created anything, never it destroys things. Who ever came up with this idea, I pray God will show mercy on you when you stand before his throne. End of quote.
Ok Darwin never came up with the big bang theory, infact he believed the universe was made by god, and i dont think it was boredom that made him discovery evolution. Any way evolution has nothing to do with the big bang at all.
@Jim…
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It is so easy to mock and make fun of what others consider sacred. After reading the many responses on this site I am again convinced that Christianity has it right. “None are righteous, no not oneâ€. Jesus was a real historical person. There is plenty of historical evidence to research about him.
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I have always said that the “Elect Jesus Christ for God” campaign was a stroke of marketing genius. It really changed the face of information distribution and religious conversion technique as well. I consider this irrefutable proof that there was indeed a Jesus Christ. With you so far.
and You think Plato and Aristotle were brilliant try reading the book of Romans in the Bible.
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Okay, I’ll bite. Any passages in particular?
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Or try reading Aquinas or Augustine. Go to Monergism.com and pick out any number of great men who believed and have lived their lives serving the One God. Try doing a little research before you so loudly mock others who have spent their lives believing in the unseen God.
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Okay, I bit… from the website:
Monergism: The view that the Holy Spirit is the only agent who effects regeneration of Christians. It is in contrast with synergism, the view that there is a cooperation between the divine and the human in the regeneration process.
Wait… what?
Monergism is a redemptive blessing purchased by Christ for those the Father has given Him (1 Pet 1:3, John 3:5,6, 6:37, 39). This grace works independently of any human cooperation and conveys that power into the fallen soul whereby the person who is to be saved is effectually enabled to respond to the gospel call.
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Okay, so… God picked a few people out of the billions who have ever lived (144,000 if I recall correctly) and according to this website… those are the only people going to heaven no matter what the rest of us do.
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Well, that’s a relief. Either I won the lottery or I lost it, and in the meantime, it doesn’t matter what I do! Beer and strippers for everyone!
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Blabbering about what you do not understand is not a sign of anything but foolishness.
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Indeed?
You have GOT to be kidding me…seriously. The reason I ask, is because I truly wonder how you can conclude that a “GOD†created and ordained life from before there was ANYTHING. I really would be interested to see your premises and conclusion in a semi-logical format. The other thing, is that I hope and pray that you realize your dreadful inaccuracy and pray that the FSM would forgive you of your blasphemies. They are truly dishonoring at the least. Praying that you change,
Not My Real Name
Lamna
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You are missing the point of Darwinism, before this it was a held assumption to make something complex you need something more complex.
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Now Darwin blow this out the water, so the assumption can therefore no longer be used as an assumption.
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Now I am not doing all the work for you, How do you think this effects the way people think of how the Universe was created?