Comments on: I seriously can’t wait http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:34:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Jake http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-435185 Jake Wed, 07 May 2008 19:28:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-435185 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...OMG! Yay more christians who believe Jesus is a violent vengeful bastard! YAY! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…OMG! Yay more christians who believe Jesus is a violent vengeful bastard! YAY!

]]> By: Pluto http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-234105 Pluto Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:02:30 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-234105 “I can’t wait to be in heaven,” Well there are some razor blades in the bathroom and sleeping pill in the cabinet so why wait? “I can’t wait to be in heaven,”
Well there are some razor blades in the bathroom and sleeping pill in the cabinet so why wait?

]]> By: Redbeard http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-234093 Redbeard Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:47:59 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-234093 Why the hell would we want to get into your wimpy Christian Heaven? Our Heaven is so much better. Why the hell would we want to get into your wimpy Christian Heaven?

Our Heaven is so much better.

]]> By: Some Guy http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-115007 Some Guy Thu, 10 May 2007 05:54:41 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-115007 Enjoy the stale beer and diseased strippers, Brian. Enjoy the stale beer and diseased strippers, Brian.

]]> By: monica, shaina,and tara http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-36368 monica, shaina,and tara Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:18:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-36368 HAHAHAHAHA this site is so great man lmao-shaina how did you think of all this stuff?ITS SO AWESOME!<b>YOU ROCK,DUDE!</B>-monica ...wtf?! what type of person can be sicoticly moronic about shite like this?!?!-tara HAHAHAHAHA this site is so great man lmao-shaina

how did you think of all this stuff?ITS SO AWESOME!YOU ROCK,DUDE!-monica

…wtf?! what type of person can be sicoticly moronic about shite like this?!?!-tara

]]> By: Penne http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14337 Penne Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:18:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14337 As far as you know. As far as you know.

]]> By: TRIX http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14314 TRIX Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:45:28 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14314 Oh, well. At least GARY doesn't want to preform vulgar acts with oars and super glue :p Oh, well. At least GARY doesn’t want to preform vulgar acts with oars and super glue :p

]]> By: TRIX http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14311 TRIX Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:43:51 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14311 Looks like I haven't gotten my Rant-inite drugs out of my system. I'll have to be real picky to GARY this time. I forgot to point out certain parts. @GARY . "Study of ALL things is what led me to GOD and away from beliefs like evolution and planed parent hood teaching that life has no meaning is what has led to billions of aborted babies and unwed mothers since 1960 when evolution became the main teaching and GOD was taken out of school vilont crime has gone up 995%,unwed birth 325%,girls 10-14 325%,divorce 111%,unmarried couples 536%,illegal drug use 6000% & this takes in to account for population growth." -Use Google. I did and I found out the rate of all crime in the US to have NOT RISEN AT ALL! It actually went down 18.401% and is now a fraction of 1%(as of '04: .469%). Just knowing that, I highly doubt your other statistics are true (where'd you get them?). Let's find out, shall we? --Unwed mothers has increased 30.5%, mainly due to the fact that women have more choice over their sex life, and usually don't like the "commitment" of marriage.'60-'04 --I couldn't find any stats on "girls 10-14", but I don't doubt that the percentage has risen; after all, the population DID increase. --Divorce has increased 1.5%. Jeez, where'd you get your stat from, GARY? This stat increased because women have gained more voice in the house hold. --Unmarried Couples. What the HELL is that supposed to mean? Boyfriend-Girlfriends? --Illegal drug use, I didn't need an expert to tell me this is a lie. 6000%? That's fake. -GARY, your statistics are flawed. In no way has evolution in schools caused these thing. It's called politics and culture. They change over time. AND FURTHERMORE, you claiming that evolution has cause 'BILLIONS' of aborted babies? That's BULLSHIT. There have been a little more than (est) a few hundred thousand in the US since 1960. . "Would you go to cort today with out an attorney? If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile perhour over the speed limit its only 1 mile perhour, but its still braking the law, it does not matter how good you are are how many laws you have upheld and the ludge is going to judge you accordingly, unless you have an attorney," -If I go 1 mile an hour over the speed limit, no cop is going to give me a ticket. And if, theoretically I did go to court, the judge would toss the case out. And I would hope I had a damn attorney. . "Scientest not beleiving in what teach has led to the big bang THEORY (key word). Every thing bagan from nothing,I thought even science teaches to get something from nothing is impossible math 0+0=0, 0×0=0, 0-0=0.well you get the point." -Scientists were trying to find a way to explain how the universe came into being after discovering that the universe was expanding, you idiot (key word). Oh, and we didn't get something from nothing; all energy and matter in the universe was in an infinitely small singularity. GARY+Religion= No grammar skills. . "thats mans law not GODs. The lack of belief in the written word of GOD is what has led to so called christians to murder in the name of GOD, the gap theory, setting dates for the return of christ. satins only power over us is deseption, what we do with it is the result of that deseption, he wants us to doupt th word of GOD, thats what he did with eve in the garden, the fist thing he said (did GOD say). GOD told JESUS you are my son, the first thing satin said to him is (if you are the son of GOD) GOD already told him he was. The differance in JESUS and other men is he believes the word of GOD and ther for was able to live a sinless life. not believing is what has led to copied religions man trying to make GOD what they want him to be to fit there lives so they don’t have to fit his life, im sorry but it leads to destruction every time. GOD says you will know them by their fruit, if they are true you should be able to see it. Salvation is not about going to church are religion. JESUS fulfilled the law, we are no longer under the law he payed for all mans sins once and for all. Receiving salvation is simply understanding that we are not perfect and cannot be good enough to stand before a perfect and rightious judge without a perfect and rightious attorney, in a since we are getting defured ajutication." -What the hell are you trying to say? And it's God, not GOD, you sinner. . I'm not going to bother ranting anymore to this post. GARY, put down your bible, pick up that science book- NOT THE BIBLE-, and open your mind. I'm a firm believer in MWI- Many Worlds Interpretation. Google it. And learn some goddamn grammar. Mr. T pity the fool who don't know grammar. . PS my email is in another one of my posts. look for it, don't pray to god. Looks like I haven’t gotten my Rant-inite drugs out of my system. I’ll have to be real picky to GARY this time. I forgot to point out certain parts.
@GARY
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“Study of ALL things is what led me to GOD and away from beliefs like evolution and planed parent hood teaching that life has no meaning is what has led to billions of aborted babies and unwed mothers since 1960 when evolution became the main teaching and GOD was taken out of school vilont crime has gone up 995%,unwed birth 325%,girls 10-14 325%,divorce 111%,unmarried couples 536%,illegal drug use 6000% & this takes in to account for population growth.”
-Use Google. I did and I found out the rate of all crime in the US to have NOT RISEN AT ALL! It actually went down 18.401% and is now a fraction of 1%(as of ‘04: .469%). Just knowing that, I highly doubt your other statistics are true (where’d you get them?). Let’s find out, shall we?
–Unwed mothers has increased 30.5%, mainly due to the fact that women have more choice over their sex life, and usually don’t like the “commitment” of marriage.’60-’04
–I couldn’t find any stats on “girls 10-14″, but I don’t doubt that the percentage has risen; after all, the population DID increase.
–Divorce has increased 1.5%. Jeez, where’d you get your stat from, GARY? This stat increased because women have gained more voice in the house hold.
–Unmarried Couples. What the HELL is that supposed to mean? Boyfriend-Girlfriends?
–Illegal drug use, I didn’t need an expert to tell me this is a lie. 6000%? That’s fake.
-GARY, your statistics are flawed. In no way has evolution in schools caused these thing. It’s called politics and culture. They change over time. AND FURTHERMORE, you claiming that evolution has cause ‘BILLIONS’ of aborted babies? That’s BULLSHIT. There have been a little more than (est) a few hundred thousand in the US since 1960.
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“Would you go to cort today with out an attorney? If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile perhour over the speed limit its only 1 mile perhour, but its still braking the law, it does not matter how good you are are how many laws you have upheld and the ludge is going to judge you accordingly, unless you have an attorney,”
-If I go 1 mile an hour over the speed limit, no cop is going to give me a ticket. And if, theoretically I did go to court, the judge would toss the case out. And I would hope I had a damn attorney.
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“Scientest not beleiving in what teach has led to the big bang THEORY (key word). Every thing bagan from nothing,I thought even science teaches to get something from nothing is impossible math 0+0=0, 0×0=0, 0-0=0.well you get the point.”
-Scientists were trying to find a way to explain how the universe came into being after discovering that the universe was expanding, you idiot (key word). Oh, and we didn’t get something from nothing; all energy and matter in the universe was in an infinitely small singularity. GARY+Religion= No grammar skills.
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“thats mans law not GODs. The lack of belief in the written word of GOD is what has led to so called christians to murder in the name of GOD, the gap theory, setting dates for the return of christ. satins only power over us is deseption, what we do with it is the result of that deseption, he wants us to doupt th word of GOD, thats what he did with eve in the garden, the fist thing he said (did GOD say). GOD told JESUS you are my son, the first thing satin said to him is (if you are the son of GOD) GOD already told him he was. The differance in JESUS and other men is he believes the word of GOD and ther for was able to live a sinless life. not believing is what has led to copied religions man trying to make GOD what they want him to be to fit there lives so they don’t have to fit his life, im sorry but it leads to destruction every time. GOD says you will know them by their fruit, if they are true you should be able to see it. Salvation is not about going to church are religion. JESUS fulfilled the law, we are no longer under the law he payed for all mans sins once and for all. Receiving salvation is simply understanding that we are not perfect and cannot be good enough to stand before a perfect and rightious judge without a perfect and rightious attorney, in a since we are getting defured ajutication.”
-What the hell are you trying to say? And it’s God, not GOD, you sinner.
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I’m not going to bother ranting anymore to this post.
GARY, put down your bible, pick up that science book- NOT THE BIBLE-, and open your mind. I’m a firm believer in MWI- Many Worlds Interpretation. Google it. And learn some goddamn grammar. Mr. T pity the fool who don’t know grammar.
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PS my email is in another one of my posts. look for it, don’t pray to god.

]]> By: Davey Jones' Slacker http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14161 Davey Jones' Slacker Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:08:35 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14161 Aww look. I went and cleaned my car and missed all the fun! . Gary, you're a fuckwit of the first order. Please, please, please don't have kids. Instead, do the gene pool a massive favour and go top yourself, right now. That's our oxygen you're wasting, retard. . There, that feels better. Aww look. I went and cleaned my car and missed all the fun!
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Gary, you’re a fuckwit of the first order. Please, please, please don’t have kids. Instead, do the gene pool a massive favour and go top yourself, right now. That’s our oxygen you’re wasting, retard.
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There, that feels better.

]]> By: Cap'n Saucy http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14158 Cap'n Saucy Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:57:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14158 Gary, I might have been angry, but I couldn't read your post. My brain just doesn't know what to do with it. You might be better off just going to sit quietly in an empty church and communing one-on-one with your God. Peace. Gary,
I might have been angry, but I couldn’t read your post. My brain just doesn’t know what to do with it. You might be better off just going to sit quietly in an empty church and communing one-on-one with your God. Peace.

]]> By: Jingles http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14153 Jingles Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:27:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14153 Woops... orbits, not orbitals... I'm so angry, I'm going quantum. Woops… orbits, not orbitals… I’m so angry, I’m going quantum.

]]> By: Jingles http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14151 Jingles Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:25:04 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14151 hmmmm... well, what can I say? . My physics lecturers must of been wrong when they taught me about angular momentum. Hell, the last few hundred years of physics can be thrown down the drain. . After all, if the word of a (slightly? somewhat? severely? You choose.) deranged religious fundimentalist with no grasp of manners, (YOU... COME TO OUR SITE... TO ARGUE... AGAINST SCIENCE... WITH THOSE ARGUMENTS!?!//?!1?/!!! 1one1one... that is just rude) . logic, (so many contradicting statements only a sentance or two apart... logical flaws you can sail a pirate ship through... must not laugh...) . grammar, (see how many "and"s a sentance you can find. My reord is four on this post, and I wasn't trying) . spelling, (How can you screw up our? It is three bloody letters... you couldn't even get the right number, let alone right letters) . basic scientific knowledge, (especially terminology... FOR FSM's SAKE, LEARN WHAT THE WORD THEORY REALLY MEANS. I'll give you a hint; it isn't "a crappy guess based on the words of one book and a load of preachers with vested interests") . basic theological knowledge ("im sure he probably used a volcano to destroy soddum and gamora" Right... a big volcano in the middle east, I wonder how we all missed that? For your information, archaeological evidence has found the POSSIBLE remains of SODOM or GOMORRAH, and it just looks like they built on a clay layer, overlooking a body of water. So... God? No... Bad planning... quite likely) . . . says that so, so much of the tested, tried, well understood field of mechanical physics is wrong and that the conservation of angular momentum means the planetary orbits cannot exist in currently observed orbitals, well I guess you must be right. . I'll go trade in my fancy modern medicine and science for a bran' spnkin noo bble rite now. OOHHH can't you just taste the religion! . . . Now Gary, I know you are jerking our noodles here. You are not that stupid. NO ONE is that stupid. Still, stfu until you learn how to debate without resorting to trolling. . A ranter with bells on, Jingles hmmmm… well, what can I say?
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My physics lecturers must of been wrong when they taught me about angular momentum. Hell, the last few hundred years of physics can be thrown down the drain.
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After all, if the word of a (slightly? somewhat? severely? You choose.) deranged religious fundimentalist with no grasp of manners,
(YOU… COME TO OUR SITE… TO ARGUE… AGAINST SCIENCE… WITH THOSE ARGUMENTS!?!//?!1?/!!! 1one1one… that is just rude)
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logic,
(so many contradicting statements only a sentance or two apart… logical flaws you can sail a pirate ship through… must not laugh…)
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grammar,
(see how many “and”s a sentance you can find. My reord is four on this post, and I wasn’t trying)
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spelling,
(How can you screw up our? It is three bloody letters… you couldn’t even get the right number, let alone right letters)
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basic scientific knowledge,
(especially terminology… FOR FSM’s SAKE, LEARN WHAT THE WORD THEORY REALLY MEANS. I’ll give you a hint; it isn’t “a crappy guess based on the words of one book and a load of preachers with vested interests”)
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basic theological knowledge
(”im sure he probably used a volcano to destroy soddum and gamora”
Right… a big volcano in the middle east, I wonder how we all missed that? For your information, archaeological evidence has found the POSSIBLE remains of SODOM or GOMORRAH, and it just looks like they built on a clay layer, overlooking a body of water. So… God? No… Bad planning… quite likely)
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says that so, so much of the tested, tried, well understood field of mechanical physics is wrong and that the conservation of angular momentum means the planetary orbits cannot exist in currently observed orbitals, well I guess you must be right.
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I’ll go trade in my fancy modern medicine and science for a bran’ spnkin noo bble rite now. OOHHH can’t you just taste the religion!
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Now Gary, I know you are jerking our noodles here. You are not that stupid. NO ONE is that stupid. Still, stfu until you learn how to debate without resorting to trolling.
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A ranter with bells on,
Jingles

]]> By: bones http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14150 bones Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:22:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14150 this is great reading.. - it's a shame christians can never spell, it might tell us all something one day. - probably that god doesnt want us to know how to spell because then we'll hatch sinister plots to write NEW books with NEW truths, obviously which will all be lies because god doesn't need to reveal truth anymore: religion has already got it all worked out. - anything new or beyond is witchcraft and heresy - - - i've decided to convert from atheism: it's simply too depressing to believe all these retards blowing themselves and my dearly beloved siblings into smithereens do it for nothing. - then again the world is overpopulated, there is some good to come of it. - anyway only god can cheer me up now. so here goes: - YEARGH, will ye pass me an eyepatch, me hearties? - wow it's already beginning to baffle me how anyone could possibly be happy without believing in beer volcanoes in the hereafter?? i mean what else is there? - noodles to you, my new friends, noodles to you this is great reading..
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it’s a shame christians can never spell, it might tell us all something one day.
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probably that god doesnt want us to know how to spell because then we’ll hatch sinister plots to write NEW books with NEW truths, obviously which will all be lies because god doesn’t need to reveal truth anymore: religion has already got it all worked out.
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anything new or beyond is witchcraft and heresy
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i’ve decided to convert from atheism: it’s simply too depressing to believe all these retards blowing themselves and my dearly beloved siblings into smithereens do it for nothing.
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then again the world is overpopulated, there is some good to come of it.
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anyway only god can cheer me up now. so here goes:
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YEARGH, will ye pass me an eyepatch, me hearties?
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wow it’s already beginning to baffle me how anyone could possibly be happy without believing in beer volcanoes in the hereafter?? i mean what else is there?
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noodles to you, my new friends, noodles to you

]]> By: J http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14147 J Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:43:02 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14147 Gary, Gary, Gary, . I'm reminded of the wise, wise, wise words of Ken Ham, professional idiot. At the beginning of The Lie Evolution, he describes how he felt when, after struggling with the ‘religion vs science’ problem, he started reading more religious books pointed out to him by a fellow church goer. He says: . ‘When I realized there were easy answers to this creation/evolution dilemma, there came a real burden from the Lord to go out and share this information with others’. . Easy answers? Who on earth looks at the mind-blowing complexity of the world and says ‘Well, there must be an easy answer for all of this!’. Who thinks ‘The answers that a pre-industrial, pre-medical, pre-enlightenment society of fishermen, carpenters and shepherds came up with 2,000 years ago are *obviously* going to be better than ours, because they’re nice and easy to understand’? . You’ve already been shot down about Lance Armstrong, but perhaps you’d like a quote from the cycling legend himself: . http://atheism.about.com/b/a/190974.htm . ‘ET Magazine quoted Armstrong saying “If there was a god, I’d still have both nuts.”’ . But, you seem to be saying that no matter what we believe, so long as we believe we’re going to be healed or whatever, it’s god who does the healing. Well, what cowardly nonsense. Welcome, readers, back into the world of deliberately unproveable theories. Science expands, religion runs into mystification. . This kind of running away from the evidence straight into absurdity reminds me of being six years old and playing an advanced form of cops and robbers in the playground. I remember pointing my ‘gun’ fingers and shouting ‘Bang!’, and my evil target robber refusing to ‘die’ because he was crouching down. ‘Can’t be shot if you’re ducking’, he said. I beg to differ. . Gary, you seem like a nice guy from some of the things you said before. But you’re never going to be persuaded to see sense on this, are you? In spite of your pretensions to study, you’ve made your mind up to see life through god-tinted glasses and that looks like being where you’ll stay. And, judging from the statistics you chose to quote, your god-based ethics do differ from my humanistic ones, since you’ve inherited Christianity’s obsessions with anything sex-related. . Basically, so long as you stay away from weaponry and politics, I’m happy to share the planet with you. But don’t impose your made-up god on other people. We can see right through him. Not like we can see through radio waves. Like we can see through a vacuum. . You finished with ‘pull your heads out of your PHD’s and look at the forrest insted of the trees…’ . This just sums up the sheer anti-knowledge bias of everything you say. You simply cannot accept that someone who spends their life patiently working on a specialised field could possibly know something worthwhile that you don’t. And that the world’s many scientists could actually, between then, say something meaningful about the world. You’re happier with the pre-school, ABC, ‘Oh, just shut up and accept that God did it’ answer. . Well, if everyone else took that position, Lance would have died of his cancer because there’d have been no treatment whatsoever. Half the people on this site would have died in their infancy, from cholera, or TB, or smallpox, or plague, or any number of scientifically preventable conditions. . Sheer arrogance, of the sort that costs lives. I have no PhD, and if I did, it wouldn’t be in science. I just know to listen to people who know a hell of a lot more than I do. People who can prove it, who can show me their working until I’m satisfied. And I count myself lucky to live in a time when the work of so many people can all advance my own knowledge. Guess you’re not interested in that. Like Ken Ham, you’ll only accept an answer if it’s ‘easy’. . Look at the forest? As TRIX said, it’s made up of trees, Gary – lots and lots of trees. But you wouldn’t have noticed. You’re happy staring at a child’s drawing of a forest instead. So there’s a god on the drawing, too? Big deal. When I get hold of it, there’ll be a Flying Spaghetti Monster, too. Gary, Gary, Gary,
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I’m reminded of the wise, wise, wise words of Ken Ham, professional idiot. At the beginning of The Lie Evolution, he describes how he felt when, after struggling with the ‘religion vs science’ problem, he started reading more religious books pointed out to him by a fellow church goer. He says:
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‘When I realized there were easy answers to this creation/evolution dilemma, there came a real burden from the Lord to go out and share this information with others’.
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Easy answers? Who on earth looks at the mind-blowing complexity of the world and says ‘Well, there must be an easy answer for all of this!’. Who thinks ‘The answers that a pre-industrial, pre-medical, pre-enlightenment society of fishermen, carpenters and shepherds came up with 2,000 years ago are *obviously* going to be better than ours, because they’re nice and easy to understand’?
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You’ve already been shot down about Lance Armstrong, but perhaps you’d like a quote from the cycling legend himself:
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http://atheism.about.com/b/a/190974.htm
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‘ET Magazine quoted Armstrong saying “If there was a god, I’d still have both nuts.”’
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But, you seem to be saying that no matter what we believe, so long as we believe we’re going to be healed or whatever, it’s god who does the healing. Well, what cowardly nonsense. Welcome, readers, back into the world of deliberately unproveable theories. Science expands, religion runs into mystification.
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This kind of running away from the evidence straight into absurdity reminds me of being six years old and playing an advanced form of cops and robbers in the playground. I remember pointing my ‘gun’ fingers and shouting ‘Bang!’, and my evil target robber refusing to ‘die’ because he was crouching down. ‘Can’t be shot if you’re ducking’, he said. I beg to differ.
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Gary, you seem like a nice guy from some of the things you said before. But you’re never going to be persuaded to see sense on this, are you? In spite of your pretensions to study, you’ve made your mind up to see life through god-tinted glasses and that looks like being where you’ll stay. And, judging from the statistics you chose to quote, your god-based ethics do differ from my humanistic ones, since you’ve inherited Christianity’s obsessions with anything sex-related.
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Basically, so long as you stay away from weaponry and politics, I’m happy to share the planet with you. But don’t impose your made-up god on other people. We can see right through him. Not like we can see through radio waves. Like we can see through a vacuum.
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You finished with ‘pull your heads out of your PHD’s and look at the forrest insted of the trees…’
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This just sums up the sheer anti-knowledge bias of everything you say. You simply cannot accept that someone who spends their life patiently working on a specialised field could possibly know something worthwhile that you don’t. And that the world’s many scientists could actually, between then, say something meaningful about the world. You’re happier with the pre-school, ABC, ‘Oh, just shut up and accept that God did it’ answer.
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Well, if everyone else took that position, Lance would have died of his cancer because there’d have been no treatment whatsoever. Half the people on this site would have died in their infancy, from cholera, or TB, or smallpox, or plague, or any number of scientifically preventable conditions.
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Sheer arrogance, of the sort that costs lives. I have no PhD, and if I did, it wouldn’t be in science. I just know to listen to people who know a hell of a lot more than I do. People who can prove it, who can show me their working until I’m satisfied. And I count myself lucky to live in a time when the work of so many people can all advance my own knowledge. Guess you’re not interested in that. Like Ken Ham, you’ll only accept an answer if it’s ‘easy’.
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Look at the forest? As TRIX said, it’s made up of trees, Gary – lots and lots of trees. But you wouldn’t have noticed. You’re happy staring at a child’s drawing of a forest instead. So there’s a god on the drawing, too? Big deal. When I get hold of it, there’ll be a Flying Spaghetti Monster, too.

]]> By: Homo narrans http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14142 Homo narrans Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:28:59 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14142 +++“If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile perhour over the speed limit its only 1 mile perhour, but its still braking the law, it does not matter how good you are are how many laws you have upheld and the ludge is going to judge you accordingly,”–…….UH….if you get a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the limit then you found yourself a really anal cop. Either way, the judge in a case like that WILL, hopefully, judge accordingly–and, y’know, be fair and understand that making one mistake isn’t enough to screw you over for life. Your anti-spelling god would just throw you into a pit of fire for being human like he created you to be.+++ Yep, because a fair and just (and supremely loving!) God recognises that finite crimes require infinite punishment. +++Public Kid: “Yeah, we learned about evolution today.” Home Kid: “Evlotion is not reel! GOD made us! THE bible sayz so!!!” PK: “Are you alright?” HK: “STAY AWAY YOU MORAN!! YOU DENI THE WURD OF GOD! YOU SHALL BURN!” PK: “Dude, I am a buddist. I don’t belive in your god anymore.” HK: “GOD WILL SMIT YOU EVIL SANTA WORSHIPPER!!11!!” PK: “Is your Caps Lock broke, dummy? And you spelled Satan wrong. Santa?” HK: “CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL11!!!!111!!11!!1!!1!” PK: “Yo, I think you need to learn how to spell. ‘Cause you sound like a retard.” etc, etc.+++ ...that sounds familiar. GARY, learn to spell. Fysics = Physics, Satin = Satan (unless satin really is evil and you've got something against plushy fabrics) and Ower = Our. And those crime statistics you so boldly tout? erm, whose ass did you pull those out of? if that were true, i wouldn't be able to walk down a street without being stabbed, mugged or ass-raped. Society is not yet bedlam, but the way you fundies go it will be soon enough. so much for the Bible making intelligent, moral human beings of us all. +++“If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile perhour over the speed limit its only 1 mile perhour, but its still braking the law, it does not matter how good you are are how many laws you have upheld and the ludge is going to judge you accordingly,”–…….UH….if you get a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the limit then you found yourself a really anal cop. Either way, the judge in a case like that WILL, hopefully, judge accordingly–and, y’know, be fair and understand that making one mistake isn’t enough to screw you over for life. Your anti-spelling god would just throw you into a pit of fire for being human like he created you to be.+++

Yep, because a fair and just (and supremely loving!) God recognises that finite crimes require infinite punishment.

+++Public Kid: “Yeah, we learned about evolution today.”
Home Kid: “Evlotion is not reel! GOD made us! THE bible sayz so!!!”
PK: “Are you alright?”
HK: “STAY AWAY YOU MORAN!! YOU DENI THE WURD OF GOD! YOU SHALL BURN!”
PK: “Dude, I am a buddist. I don’t belive in your god anymore.”
HK: “GOD WILL SMIT YOU EVIL SANTA WORSHIPPER!!11!!”
PK: “Is your Caps Lock broke, dummy? And you spelled Satan wrong. Santa?”
HK: “CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL11!!!!111!!11!!1!!1!”
PK: “Yo, I think you need to learn how to spell. ‘Cause you sound like a retard.”
etc, etc.+++

…that sounds familiar.
GARY, learn to spell. Fysics = Physics, Satin = Satan (unless satin really is evil and you’ve got something against plushy fabrics) and Ower = Our.
And those crime statistics you so boldly tout? erm, whose ass did you pull those out of? if that were true, i wouldn’t be able to walk down a street without being stabbed, mugged or ass-raped. Society is not yet bedlam, but the way you fundies go it will be soon enough.
so much for the Bible making intelligent, moral human beings of us all.

]]> By: gill http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14103 gill Sun, 12 Nov 2006 06:28:44 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14103 "If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile perhour over the speed limit its only 1 mile perhour, but its still braking the law, it does not matter how good you are are how many laws you have upheld and the ludge is going to judge you accordingly,"--.......UH....if you get a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the limit then you found yourself a really anal cop. Either way, the judge in a case like that WILL, hopefully, judge accordingly--and, y'know, be fair and understand that making one mistake isn't enough to screw you over for life. Your anti-spelling god would just throw you into a pit of fire for being human like he created you to be. - "what i found was through the evedence it points to the GOD of the jews"-- Oh, jeeze. Us Jews don't need this kinda publicity! (Bad GARY! Go rant about jee-zus being the sun off gawde and leave other religions outta it.) I am embarassed on behalf of this fruitloop. 'Evidence points towards religion', yeesh... “If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile perhour over the speed limit its only 1 mile perhour, but its still braking the law, it does not matter how good you are are how many laws you have upheld and the ludge is going to judge you accordingly,”–…….UH….if you get a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the limit then you found yourself a really anal cop. Either way, the judge in a case like that WILL, hopefully, judge accordingly–and, y’know, be fair and understand that making one mistake isn’t enough to screw you over for life. Your anti-spelling god would just throw you into a pit of fire for being human like he created you to be.
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“what i found was through the evedence it points to the GOD of the jews”– Oh, jeeze. Us Jews don’t need this kinda publicity! (Bad GARY! Go rant about jee-zus being the sun off gawde and leave other religions outta it.) I am embarassed on behalf of this fruitloop. ‘Evidence points towards religion’, yeesh…

]]> By: TRIX http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14092 TRIX Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:35:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14092 shoot. I posted double. Tab button is too close to caps lock. shoot. I posted double. Tab button is too close to caps lock.

]]> By: TRIX http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14091 TRIX Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:34:05 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14091 On a side note, I think that was one of the longest posts ever. But I may be mistaken. . @Mad John Kidd Yes, I think a conversation with a home-schooled and a public schooled kid would go: Public Kid: "Yeah, we learned about evolution today." Home Kid: "Evlotion is not reel! GOD made us! THE bible sayz so!!!" PK: "Are you alright?" HK: "STAY AWAY YOU MORAN!! YOU DENI THE WURD OF GOD! YOU SHALL BURN!" PK: "Dude, I am a buddist. I don't belive in your god anymore." HK: "GOD WILL SMIT YOU EVIL SANTA WORSHIPPER!!11!!" PK: "Is your Caps Lock broke, dummy? And you spelled Satan wrong. Santa?" HK: "CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL11!!!!111!!11!!1!!1!" PK: "Yo, I think you need to learn how to spell. 'Cause you sound like a retard." etc, etc. . Kids these days. On a side note, I think that was one of the longest posts ever. But I may be mistaken.
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@Mad John Kidd
Yes, I think a conversation with a home-schooled and a public schooled kid would go:
Public Kid: “Yeah, we learned about evolution today.”
Home Kid: “Evlotion is not reel! GOD made us! THE bible sayz so!!!”
PK: “Are you alright?”
HK: “STAY AWAY YOU MORAN!! YOU DENI THE WURD OF GOD! YOU SHALL BURN!”
PK: “Dude, I am a buddist. I don’t belive in your god anymore.”
HK: “GOD WILL SMIT YOU EVIL SANTA WORSHIPPER!!11!!”
PK: “Is your Caps Lock broke, dummy? And you spelled Satan wrong. Santa?”
HK: “CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL11!!!!111!!11!!1!!1!”
PK: “Yo, I think you need to learn how to spell. ‘Cause you sound like a retard.”
etc, etc.
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Kids these days.

]]> By: TRIX http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14090 TRIX Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:27:00 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14090 On a side note, I think that was one of the longest posts ever. But I may be mistaken. . @Mad John Kidd Yes, I think a conversation with a home-schooled and a public schooled kid would go: Public Kid: "Yeah, we learned about evolution today." Home Kid: "Evlotion is not reel! GOD made us! THE bible sayz so!!!" PK: "Are you alright?" HK: "STAY AWAY YOU MORAN!! YOU DENI THE WURD OF GOD! YOU SHALL BURN!" PK: On a side note, I think that was one of the longest posts ever. But I may be mistaken.
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@Mad John Kidd
Yes, I think a conversation with a home-schooled and a public schooled kid would go:
Public Kid: “Yeah, we learned about evolution today.”
Home Kid: “Evlotion is not reel! GOD made us! THE bible sayz so!!!”
PK: “Are you alright?”
HK: “STAY AWAY YOU MORAN!! YOU DENI THE WURD OF GOD! YOU SHALL BURN!”
PK:

]]> By: TRIX http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14089 TRIX Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:20:03 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/09/15/cannot-wait.htm#comment-14089 @GARY As far as I know, Darwin was actually a devout Christian before he wrote "Origins of the Species", but after he wrote it, the Church kicked him out. So, Darwin had embraced God, but his fellow church-goers kicked him out. . By the way, GARY, where'd you get those statistics from? If crime went up that much, everyone would be a crook. . "As for miracles they happen every day, you call them coincidences and unexplainable, but there comes a time when it’s to coincidental to be coincidence." - Miracles are coincidence. Give me a photo of a miracle. . "People raised from the dead,healed miraculously, delivered instantly from drug and alcohol addictions, you name it it happens as GOD said it would but if you dont beleive it then you will never see it, you will denie the evidence." -So, God created zombies, quack doctors, going cold turkey, and bad grammer? Oh, and I believe in God, but I never have seen Him, and if you give me evidence, I won't deny it. I'll just see how reliable it is. . "Lance Armstrong is the perfect example when the doctors gave up he would not he beleived and lived." -Lance Armstrong had a testicular cancer growth on his groin the size of a grapefruit. The doctors never gave up on him, they just cut the testicle off. . "Global flood ,expanding heavens,gulf stream,round earth,all in the bible and they did not need billions of $ are high tech equitment to tell us all this." -Umm, yeah. In the bible, the earth is flat, stars are fixed, the universe revolves around the earth and the world was as big as the Mediterranean. They knew of no Gulf Stream. So, yeah, give credit where credit is due: to science. . "Science has shown that all living things are far more complex than any thing we can make, but you want me to beleive it happened by accident, i’ve hade accidents and nothing good was produced, thats evidence" -Personally, I believe that every event has an infinite number of outcomes. And every outcome has a different quantum universe. So therefore, your conscience is in the universe we live in now: where Earth formed and evolution made us. Hell, there's even a universe where YOU, GARY, ARE TRYING TO SPREAD THE WORD OF THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER! For reference see the Star Trek: TNG episode "Parallels" (Best. Episode. Ever.). Also accidents have made things like telephones, (which you use), penicillin (which you've used), and even photography (betcha didn't know that!). . "Science books have changed more it the past few years than the bible through out history.ther are no fossils that show evolution, they date rocks with fossils and fossils with rocks and call it science,(circular reasoning),There is far more proof of a young earth than an old earth. Evolution is every bit a religion, you believe something you can not prove. What does planets and moons spinning backwards have to do with any thing? Read about conservation of angular momentum, why are all the planets so differnt and made up of different amounts of gases if they all came from the same bang and where did all the dirt and matter come from to make the little dot that spun so fast it exploded, seeing how matter can not be created are destroyed." -Oh no. You didn't. YOU INSULTED SCIENCE! -Science books changing are a good thing: it means they are up to date. The bible doesn't, so it isn't. -There are fossils that show evolution, namely, say, ALL OF THEM! We have proved mutation with fruit flies, and mutation leads to evolution (the two almost go hand in hand). -Evolution is a likely way to explain how we exist. We can't prove it because we don't have a time machine. -Planets and moons spinning backward can possibly mean a chaotic past. -You read about Conservation of Angular Momentum? Good, your learning. -Planets are made of different materials because: 1) heavier elements, like iron, fell closer to the sun. light elements, like hydrogen, are thrust outwards during star formation. Over Billions of years, spent star fuel includes: carbon, helium, iron, silicon, neon, and other crap. these clump together by gravity to form, you guessed right, plants. -At the big bang, there was no matter. There was only energy. Matter didn't form until about several hundred thousand years later. The big bang is exempt from normal physics because the forces of the universe were all combined. "My belief system heals the sick raises the dead saves lives and the souls of the millions of babies that your system aborts." -Right. One of my friends is a pastors daughter. When she got pregnant (not mine), her dad dragged her to the abortion clinic to get an abortion. She got it, and she doesn't even show that she got it. It's called free choice. Read about it. "So i say pull your heads out of your PHD’s and look at the forrest insted of the trees…." -The forest is made of trees you big dummy! And our Ph.D's are more creditable than your bible. Anyone can go out, buy a bible, and quote it as fact. It's like saying "Hamlet" is true because it's written down. Ph.d's are a little harder to get than a book. . And don't get on my case about being a godless sinner. I am a Anglican and I go to church every Sunday (mainly because my girlfriend asked me to) but that doesn't mean I can't reject false icons like god or Adam and eve. (Jesus was real). Get real. Put away that bible and see what science can do for you. Got any problems? Email me at trix6rabbit@yahoo.com . END RANT OF PICKYNESS . "Welcome to Christianity. Do you want lies with that?" @GARY
As far as I know, Darwin was actually a devout Christian before he wrote “Origins of the Species”, but after he wrote it, the Church kicked him out. So, Darwin had embraced God, but his fellow church-goers kicked him out.
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By the way, GARY, where’d you get those statistics from? If crime went up that much, everyone would be a crook.
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“As for miracles they happen every day, you call them coincidences and unexplainable, but there comes a time when it’s to coincidental to be coincidence.”
- Miracles are coincidence. Give me a photo of a miracle.
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“People raised from the dead,healed miraculously, delivered instantly from drug and alcohol addictions, you name it it happens as GOD said it would but if you dont beleive it then you will never see it, you will denie the evidence.”
-So, God created zombies, quack doctors, going cold turkey, and bad grammer?
Oh, and I believe in God, but I never have seen Him, and if you give me evidence, I won’t deny it. I’ll just see how reliable it is.
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“Lance Armstrong is the perfect example when the doctors gave up he would not he beleived and lived.”
-Lance Armstrong had a testicular cancer growth on his groin the size of a grapefruit. The doctors never gave up on him, they just cut the testicle off.
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“Global flood ,expanding heavens,gulf stream,round earth,all in the bible and they did not need billions of $ are high tech equitment to tell us all this.”
-Umm, yeah. In the bible, the earth is flat, stars are fixed, the universe revolves around the earth and the world was as big as the Mediterranean. They knew of no Gulf Stream. So, yeah, give credit where credit is due: to science.
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“Science has shown that all living things are far more complex than any thing we can make, but you want me to beleive it happened by accident, i’ve hade accidents and nothing good was produced, thats evidence”
-Personally, I believe that every event has an infinite number of outcomes. And every outcome has a different quantum universe. So therefore, your conscience is in the universe we live in now: where Earth formed and evolution made us. Hell, there’s even a universe where YOU, GARY, ARE TRYING TO SPREAD THE WORD OF THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER! For reference see the Star Trek: TNG episode “Parallels” (Best. Episode. Ever.). Also accidents have made things like telephones, (which you use), penicillin (which you’ve used), and even photography (betcha didn’t know that!).
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“Science books have changed more it the past few years than the bible through out history.ther are no fossils that show evolution, they date rocks with fossils and fossils with rocks and call it science,(circular reasoning),There is far more proof of a young earth than an old earth. Evolution is every bit a religion, you believe something you can not prove. What does planets and moons spinning backwards have to do with any thing? Read about conservation of angular momentum, why are all the planets so differnt and made up of different amounts of gases if they all came from the same bang and where did all the dirt and matter come from to make the little dot that spun so fast it exploded, seeing how matter can not be created are destroyed.”
-Oh no. You didn’t. YOU INSULTED SCIENCE!
-Science books changing are a good thing: it means they are up to date. The bible doesn’t, so it isn’t.
-There are fossils that show evolution, namely, say, ALL OF THEM! We have proved mutation with fruit flies, and mutation leads to evolution (the two almost go hand in hand).
-Evolution is a likely way to explain how we exist. We can’t prove it because we don’t have a time machine.
-Planets and moons spinning backward can possibly mean a chaotic past.
-You read about Conservation of Angular Momentum? Good, your learning.
-Planets are made of different materials because: 1) heavier elements, like iron, fell closer to the sun. light elements, like hydrogen, are thrust outwards during star formation. Over Billions of years, spent star fuel includes: carbon, helium, iron, silicon, neon, and other crap. these clump together by gravity to form, you guessed right, plants.
-At the big bang, there was no matter. There was only energy. Matter didn’t form until about several hundred thousand years later. The big bang is exempt from normal physics because the forces of the universe were all combined.
“My belief system heals the sick raises the dead saves lives and the souls of the millions of babies that your system aborts.”
-Right. One of my friends is a pastors daughter. When she got pregnant (not mine), her dad dragged her to the abortion clinic to get an abortion. She got it, and she doesn’t even show that she got it. It’s called free choice. Read about it.
“So i say pull your heads out of your PHD’s and look at the forrest insted of the trees….”
-The forest is made of trees you big dummy! And our Ph.D’s are more creditable than your bible. Anyone can go out, buy a bible, and quote it as fact. It’s like saying “Hamlet” is true because it’s written down. Ph.d’s are a little harder to get than a book.
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And don’t get on my case about being a godless sinner. I am a Anglican and I go to church every Sunday (mainly because my girlfriend asked me to) but that doesn’t mean I can’t reject false icons like god or Adam and eve. (Jesus was real). Get real. Put away that bible and see what science can do for you.
Got any problems? Email me at trix6rabbit@yahoo.com
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END RANT OF PICKYNESS
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“Welcome to Christianity. Do you want lies with that?”

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