Comments on: Think about this, asshole…. http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:45:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: AVISPA http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-317438 AVISPA Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:25:46 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-317438 I'll keep my soul AND freedom with the FSM, thank you very much I’ll keep my soul AND freedom with the FSM, thank you very much

]]> By: Flying Scotsman http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187261 Flying Scotsman Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:35:07 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187261 @Tim Montague. . Whilst I appreciate that humans all have their very own foibles, I worry about your scientific training when you so clearly fail to self-apply. For example, you believe in the existence of the Krebs cycle because of the positive evidence presented for it. You fail to believe in the millions of other possible cycles out there because of a *lack of evidence presented*. Quite simply, a good scientist should utilise Occam's razor to its fullest, and believe only that for which evidence exists. . There is not, and can never be, empirical evidence for God, thus the ONLY rational recourse should be disbelief. You got your PhD, as I got mine, from a university. I put it to you that Universities and Academia can never be anything but diametrically opposed to organised religion. Academic endeavour is an attempt to elucidate truth, without any pre-conceived notion of what that truth is. Religion seeks to shoe horn any non-contradictory facts to suit its preconceived notions, and to reject the ones that do contradict it. . May the FSM guide you to a greater understanding, RAmen Scotty @Tim Montague.
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Whilst I appreciate that humans all have their very own foibles, I worry about your scientific training when you so clearly fail to self-apply. For example, you believe in the existence of the Krebs cycle because of the positive evidence presented for it. You fail to believe in the millions of other possible cycles out there because of a *lack of evidence presented*. Quite simply, a good scientist should utilise Occam’s razor to its fullest, and believe only that for which evidence exists.
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There is not, and can never be, empirical evidence for God, thus the ONLY rational recourse should be disbelief. You got your PhD, as I got mine, from a university. I put it to you that Universities and Academia can never be anything but diametrically opposed to organised religion. Academic endeavour is an attempt to elucidate truth, without any pre-conceived notion of what that truth is. Religion seeks to shoe horn any non-contradictory facts to suit its preconceived notions, and to reject the ones that do contradict it.
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May the FSM guide you to a greater understanding,
RAmen
Scotty

]]> By: Flying Scotsman http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187226 Flying Scotsman Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:28:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187226 Now now, I think we're doing Tyler a disservice here. I mean he's only using the argument that organised religion has used for centuries - people died to protect *my* right to try and repress *you* from expressing the same right. It seems somewhat hypocritical, trying to use the freedom that those soldiers died for to try and repress that freedom. Of course, this is the stated goal of the people that the soldiers are dying to try and defeat. They want to stop you from believing in your God, instead you must believe in theirs. Sound familiar anyone? On the other hand, I have to disagree with WPoFD. I doubt anyone (with a brain) thinks that the separation of church and state is anything but a good thing. Big respect to Staff Sgt Snieder - brilliant post, and I agree completely. Scotty (first post!) Now now,
I think we’re doing Tyler a disservice here. I mean he’s only using the argument that organised religion has used for centuries - people died to protect *my* right to try and repress *you* from expressing the same right. It seems somewhat hypocritical, trying to use the freedom that those soldiers died for to try and repress that freedom.

Of course, this is the stated goal of the people that the soldiers are dying to try and defeat. They want to stop you from believing in your God, instead you must believe in theirs. Sound familiar anyone?

On the other hand, I have to disagree with WPoFD. I doubt anyone (with a brain) thinks that the separation of church and state is anything but a good thing.

Big respect to Staff Sgt Snieder - brilliant post, and I agree completely.

Scotty (first post!)

]]> By: Lumenesca http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187188 Lumenesca Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:42:38 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187188 May all these non-believers be graced by His Noodly Appendage. ;D May all these non-believers be graced by His Noodly Appendage. ;D

]]> By: Aristotle http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187165 Aristotle Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:16:46 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187165 "What if we’re not American?" Is that even possible? :P “What if we’re not American?”

Is that even possible? :P

]]> By: Etay http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187106 Etay Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:05:11 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-187106 What if we're not American? Think. The United States is <i>not</i> an island in an endless sea. What if we’re not American?
Think. The United States is not an island in an endless sea.

]]> By: Homo narrans http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-17876 Homo narrans Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:02:25 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-17876 Also, considering tha a good number of non-americans are active on this site, it's a little presumptious to say that only american GIs have ever died for our freedom. not to sound too much like an arse, but america was late to join both world wars. (note - i am not condoning world wars here) Also, considering tha a good number of non-americans are active on this site, it’s a little presumptious to say that only american GIs have ever died for our freedom. not to sound too much like an arse, but america was late to join both world wars.
(note - i am not condoning world wars here)

]]> By: Captian of the Nowtheworldhasmeaning http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-17874 Captian of the Nowtheworldhasmeaning Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:55:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-17874 "Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: Jesus Christ and the American G.I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom." . I have heard something similar before, oh yeah that was it, the 9/11 bombers said something along the same lines. They were dying in Gods honor to show people the light and evils of the west so as to save their souls. . Jesus never died for me or you, in fact there is very little evidence that Jesus was actually alive or a real person. “Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
Jesus Christ and the American G.I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.”
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I have heard something similar before, oh yeah that was it, the 9/11 bombers said something along the same lines. They were dying in Gods honor to show people the light and evils of the west so as to save their souls.
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Jesus never died for me or you, in fact there is very little evidence that Jesus was actually alive or a real person.

]]> By: hihi http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-17859 hihi Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:51:11 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-17859 Jesus died for hollywood hahaha. So directors could make money with movies like 'Jesus christ super star'!! (movies about Jesus are stupid) Jesus died for hollywood hahaha.
So directors could make money with movies like ‘Jesus christ super star’!! (movies about Jesus are stupid)

]]> By: Mike Williamson http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-2055 Mike Williamson Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:15:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-2055 "And those of you who believe the spaghetti monster is real know it is fake, but you also know that God is real." Hmmm...I didn't know that I knew that God is real, but now that I've been told, I guess I do. Oh, wait. Nope. Still not real. I just celebrated 21 years in the US military, the same day my wife celebrated 2 (yes, she started late). I don't see any doctrine of the FSM that opposes us, or our service. Nor do I respect the attempt to persuade me by stereotype that as an American I must believe in God (Which I don't) and support the war (Which I do) and hate science (Which I don't). The ultimate irony is that, if there is truly no God, Christians won't have a chance to feel stupid about it when they die and nothing happens. “And those of you who believe the spaghetti monster is real know it is fake, but you also know that God is real.”

Hmmm…I didn’t know that I knew that God is real, but now that I’ve been told, I guess I do.

Oh, wait. Nope. Still not real.

I just celebrated 21 years in the US military, the same day my wife celebrated 2 (yes, she started late). I don’t see any doctrine of the FSM that opposes us, or our service. Nor do I respect the attempt to persuade me by stereotype that as an American I must believe in God (Which I don’t) and support the war (Which I do) and hate science (Which I don’t).

The ultimate irony is that, if there is truly no God, Christians won’t have a chance to feel stupid about it when they die and nothing happens.

]]> By: arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-2053 arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:14:40 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-2053 so far no GI has died for my freedom and i'm sure that there is no evidence that some guy named jesus from the town of nazareth existed much less that he died for my soul and then came back to life "and Vin Diesel so loved the world that he gave it his only son: Superman" so far no GI has died for my freedom
and i’m sure that there is no evidence that some guy named jesus from the town of nazareth existed
much less that he died for my soul and then came back to life

“and Vin Diesel so loved the world that he gave it his only son: Superman”

]]> By: puffaliaz http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1601 puffaliaz Wed, 13 Sep 2006 01:02:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1601 while we're on this topic; i'm canadian. our taxes go to supporting OUR troops to help YOUR troops because there are people like the poster who agree with the war; which could've been georges fault in the first place! if you want george to kill of all of your troops, and ours, you're support is really helping. while we’re on this topic; i’m canadian. our taxes go to supporting OUR troops to help YOUR troops because there are people like the poster who agree with the war; which could’ve been georges fault in the first place! if you want george to kill of all of your troops, and ours, you’re support is really helping.

]]> By: Biscuit http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1600 Biscuit Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:17:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1600 "A true patriot loves his country all the time and his government when they deserve it." - Mark Twain To Joe and the SSgt - Thank you for both your service and your words. “A true patriot loves his country all the time and his government when they deserve it.” - Mark Twain

To Joe and the SSgt - Thank you for both your service and your words.

]]> By: Christopher "Flame Mail Me If You Hate Me, I Don't Care" Edwards http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1599 Christopher "Flame Mail Me If You Hate Me, I Don't Care" Edwards Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:04:01 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1599 If Jesus Christ died for my soul, then how come everything I do brings threats of Hell from Christians? Hell, (no pun intended) if God hates everything I do so much, I don't want to go to his Heaven anyways. His 'son' died for our sins, but if we sin, we are still in trouble. What if God impregnated Mary so that when everyone found out about it, they would try to kill her, so God would have no worries. Then Jesus was born, and he didn't die for our sins, but because God wanted us to think that; he was really trying to get an illicit son off of his hands. If Jesus Christ died for my soul, then how come everything I do brings threats of Hell from Christians?
Hell, (no pun intended) if God hates everything I do so much, I don’t want to go to his Heaven anyways.
His ’son’ died for our sins, but if we sin, we are still in trouble.
What if God impregnated Mary so that when everyone found out about it, they would try to kill her, so God would have no worries. Then Jesus was born, and he didn’t die for our sins, but because God wanted us to think that; he was really trying to get an illicit son off of his hands.

]]> By: Joe http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1598 Joe Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:46:28 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1598 Oh, by the way, Iraq doesn't have any large bodies of water. What does that mean? NO NAVY! So unless you are a Sea-Bee, a Seal, a Corpman, or a Chaplin, you haven't seen what Iraq is. Give me a call when you spend endless months walking IED infested streets with your fellow Infantrymen waiting to get blown up or shot. Respectfully, Joe RIP Smith <a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=undefined" rel="nofollow">http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=undefined</a> Oh, by the way, Iraq doesn’t have any large bodies of water. What does that mean? NO NAVY! So unless you are a Sea-Bee, a Seal, a Corpman, or a Chaplin, you haven’t seen what Iraq is. Give me a call when you spend endless months walking IED infested streets with your fellow Infantrymen waiting to get blown up or shot.

Respectfully,
Joe

RIP Smith

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=undefined

]]> By: Joe http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1597 Joe Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:40:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1597 Well I'm just a crazy Iraqi war vet with a list of dead friends and a scientific approach to my beliefs. Let me help you all understand some of my crazy beliefs. First of all, not every American military action is in defense of American freedom. More often than not, military actions are peacekeeping or policing actions. So while you should honor the selfless sacrifice made by the brave souls that are willing to put their lives on the line, you need not respect the orders given to them by a person they may or may not have voted for. I do support my troops but I don't support some of our generals. So let us separate the men and the mission. If anything, you should admire the strength of those who continue on with a mission they think is wrong just because they want to keep their word. Don't believe me? Check this out: <a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=802127968" rel="nofollow">http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=802127968</a> Secondly, as a recovering Christian, I know the bible. I know the beliefs and I know how irrational they are. One would do well to purge himself of such handicap. In a spirit of hypocrisy, I will say that there is far too much going on in this world to waste your time posting responses to an obviously misguided lunatic with a wit far slower than his words. Thank you, Joe Well I’m just a crazy Iraqi war vet with a list of dead friends and a scientific approach to my beliefs. Let me help you all understand some of my crazy beliefs.

First of all, not every American military action is in defense of American freedom. More often than not, military actions are peacekeeping or policing actions. So while you should honor the selfless sacrifice made by the brave souls that are willing to put their lives on the line, you need not respect the orders given to them by a person they may or may not have voted for. I do support my troops but I don’t support some of our generals. So let us separate the men and the mission. If anything, you should admire the strength of those who continue on with a mission they think is wrong just because they want to keep their word. Don’t believe me? Check this out:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=802127968

Secondly, as a recovering Christian, I know the bible. I know the beliefs and I know how irrational they are. One would do well to purge himself of such handicap. In a spirit of hypocrisy, I will say that there is far too much going on in this world to waste your time posting responses to an obviously misguided lunatic with a wit far slower than his words.

Thank you,
Joe

]]> By: puffaliaz http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1596 puffaliaz Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:22:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1596 "I AM SICK OF ALL THE EXPLETIVES AND HATE HERE!!! WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!! ALL OF YOU "CHRISTIANS" DON'T EVEN FOLLOW CHRIST'S TEACHINGS!!! LOOK THEM UP IN THE BIBLE!!! YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON I AM AN ATHEIST!!!! AND THE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ ARE NOT DYING FOR MY FREEDOM! THEY ARE DYING IN IRAQ TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT AND OIL COMAPANIES RICHER!!! SO SHUT THE HELL UP YOU HATE MAILERS!!!" You don't have to read this then. these pages where made specifically for hatemail, so if you are here, you actually want to debate, or are like lots of the idiots here who have nothing better to do but make fools of themselves. “I AM SICK OF ALL THE EXPLETIVES AND HATE HERE!!! WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!! ALL OF YOU “CHRISTIANS” DON’T EVEN FOLLOW CHRIST’S TEACHINGS!!! LOOK THEM UP IN THE BIBLE!!! YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON I AM AN ATHEIST!!!! AND THE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ ARE NOT DYING FOR MY FREEDOM! THEY ARE DYING IN IRAQ TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT AND OIL COMAPANIES RICHER!!! SO SHUT THE HELL UP YOU HATE MAILERS!!!”

You don’t have to read this then. these pages where made specifically for hatemail, so if you are here, you actually want to debate, or are like lots of the idiots here who have nothing better to do but make fools of themselves.

]]> By: puffaliaz http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1595 puffaliaz Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:04:45 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1595 "Its pretty clear that Tyler is, I would estimate, a 14 year old who stumbled across the site." --wulf so? I'm only a few years older than that, and I believe in His Noodlyness “Its pretty clear that Tyler is, I would estimate, a 14 year old who stumbled across the site.” –wulf

so? I’m only a few years older than that, and I believe in His Noodlyness

]]> By: Darn Chistians http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1594 Darn Chistians Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:43:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1594 I AM SICK OF ALL THE EXPLETIVES AND HATE HERE!!! WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!! ALL OF YOU "CHRISTIANS" DON'T EVEN FOLLOW CHRIST'S TEACHINGS!!! LOOK THEM UP IN THE BIBLE!!! YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON I AM AN ATHEIST!!!! AND THE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ ARE NOT DYING FOR MY FREEDOM! THEY ARE DYING IN IRAQ TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT AND OIL COMAPANIES RICHER!!! SO SHUT THE HELL UP YOU HATE MAILERS!!! I AM SICK OF ALL THE EXPLETIVES AND HATE HERE!!! WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!! ALL OF YOU “CHRISTIANS” DON’T EVEN FOLLOW CHRIST’S TEACHINGS!!! LOOK THEM UP IN THE BIBLE!!! YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON I AM AN ATHEIST!!!! AND THE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ ARE NOT DYING FOR MY FREEDOM! THEY ARE DYING IN IRAQ TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT AND OIL COMAPANIES RICHER!!! SO SHUT THE HELL UP YOU HATE MAILERS!!!

]]> By: choronzon http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1593 choronzon Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:29:14 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2006/08/19/think-about-this-asshole.htm#comment-1593 sorry, Patriot, his mom likes sodomy but not zoophilia only kidding... sorry, Patriot, his mom likes sodomy but not zoophilia

only kidding…

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