The only Pirate you are is a BUTT PIRATE….butt plugging parrots too!
You and your group of sick, misguided, ugly, half-witted, inbred, drugged up, hippie friends really need a good ass beating. When my deployment of catching drug runners ends in South
America, and I return to San Diego, CA, why don’t we meet somewhere? You bring your freaks…um, I mean “friends”, and I’ll bring my friends. We’ll have a nice little discussion…….
However, before we meet I suggest you fill out a last will and testament……..
Ty is…
I’m not sure a single person here is seriously suggesting that FSM be real. I’m also not sure that everyone here denies the existance of your God. FSM is just a parody of one aspect of the idiotic, power-hungry, “the bible is the only truth and if DVDs aren’t in the bible, they don’t exist” portion of Christitanity. Which from your stance on the decaying America, you seem stupid enough to believe in. Good job.
I personally think America is “decaying” because an idiotically fundamentalist Christian administration is picking fights and eliminating parts of the constitution in order to stir up fear and gain power. In the name of God. I’m sure there’s something about that in history also.
It would be kinda awesome if like Shiva, Apollo and Odin all came by to sign the constitution of the US. ‘Cause, you know, that’s appearently what Jesus did so other Gods needed to get in on the game.
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Ty is right…again,
Your post scares me. Is it me, or have the crusades in the holy land just moved to this site? You know, it’s people like you that I hate, and whoever runs that “Fundies say the darndest things” site: please put his post on it.
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“Ty”, you’re a dumbass. Our “roots”, as you say, are the antithesis to what you preach. Benjamin Franklin was a Deist, Thomas Jefferson refused to believe in the divinity of Jesus, the Trinity, or miracles, and as for George Washingon…
“Washington was an early supporter of religious pluralism. In 1775, he ordered that his troops not burn the pope in effigy on Guy Fawkes Night. When hiring workmen for Mount Vernon, he wrote to his agent that he cared not if the workers were Mohammedans, Jews, Christians of any sect, or Atheists, as long as they were good workers. As president in 1790, he published a letter written to Jewish leaders in which he envisioned a country “which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance . . . May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.”"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_washington#Religious_beliefs
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Ty -
Educate yourself.
The social problems with the U.S. are largely due to bad parenting and not the absence of religion in government. This bad parenting can be a result of over ambitious adults that care more about their SUVs, big houses and fancy vacations or because a widowed mom has to work 2 jobs to make ends meet.
Let me say that again; It’s parenting that makes a difference not our teachers, not our politicians, not our government.
You can be a good (insert your preferred religion) and a good parent just as you can be a good (insert your religion) and a terrible parent. Feel free to play around with all the permutations.
What it comes down to is that if your child is not concerned or afraid of disappointing their parent(s), then no amount of religion in government will help.
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Also, John Adams was a Unitarian.
Honestly, the more I find myself researching this, the more disappointed I am in the current state of tolerance, education, and open-mindedness in this country.
“Not Ty”, excellent point.
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John Adams, on religious canon:
“All these opinions they were enabled to spread and rivet among the people by reducing their minds to a state of sordid ignorance and staring timidity, and by infusing into them a religious horror of letters and knowledge. Thus was human nature chained fast for ages in a cruel, shameful, and deplorable servitude to him, and his subordinate tyrants, who, it was foretold, would exalt himself above all that was called God, and that was worshipped. [A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_adams#Religious_views
Aight, I’m going to stop now, just thought that was an interesting quote. Seems applicable.
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Ty… you said that we were in danger of repeating ourselves because of forgetting history. You are right. However, you are the one that seems to be forgetting so much. You claim that other’s belief has no right in your country. I’m sorry, but doesnt that ring any historical bells? The next step in this path is to say that those people are sub-human. And from there on it gradually gets worse, eventually leading to genocide of those people.
And please read my previous post, I’ll get the point across as easily as I can.
YOU ARE NOT BETTER THAN OTHERS! THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO!
Perhaps you should start bowing down to your God a little bit more. It might teach you some humility.
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lmfao.. i soo did a mistake in backing up that ty noob…
Peter… you rule.. you took youre time to do profound reaserch before making any claims and you showed refferences to your claims.. and you made good points!! people should be more tolerant
and ty… Canada owns your ass.. we might not have a better military… but we dont all live in trailor parks or cottages in the woods either lol… and by the way the internet connection i have is probably better then yours on speed AND price… we arent low tech
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Um, no, Ty, still wrong.
The 1st Amendment means that the US Government is OFFICIALLY a secular organization. “Freedom of religion” means ANY religion, or no religion at all.
And if that ever changed, I’d have to go find somewhere else to live. (Canada, maybe, if it weren’t so bloody cold…)
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Ty is right,
What you don’t know is that the FSM used His Noodly Appendages to put a secret message in the first 8 preambles listed above.
Alabama 1901, Preamble. We *The* people o*F* the State of A*L*abama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almight*Y* God, do orda*IN* and establish the followin*G* Constitution.
Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Ala*S*ka, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and *P*ioneered this gre*A*t land.
Arizona 1911, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arizona, *G*rateful to Amighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution…
Arkansas 1874, Preamble . We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almig*H*ty God for the privil*E*ge of choosing our own form of governmen*T*…
California 1879, Preamble . We, *T*he People of the State of Cal*I*fornia, grateful to Al*M*ighty G*O*d for our freedom.
Colorado 1876, Preamble. We, the people of Colorado, with profou*N*d reverence for the *S*upreme Ruler of Universe.
Connecticut 1818, Preamble. *T*h*E* People of Connecticut, acknowledging with g*R*atitude the good P*R*ovidence of God in permitting them to enjoy.
Delaware 1897, Preamble. Thro*U*gh Divine Goodness a*L*l men have, by natur*E*, the right*S* of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences.
“THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER RULES”
By the way, I’ll grant 1000 points to anyone who finds any other secret messages embedded either the Constitution or the Bible.
And yes, I’ve got way too much time on my hands…
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“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”
All of our founding fathers were deists or athiests. Deists being a logical group that believes in one god, but this god doesnt concern himself with the daily lives of humans, nor does he have a sacred text.
Any law passed that violates the first amendment will be taken down eventually, because the people now I believe are getting a bit more convinced that the Christians are taking America over, and we are going to start waking up.
“E Pluribus Unum”
“Out of many, one”
Not “in god we trust”
If you can pass a law saying a state is a christian state, then maybe you can ban any other religion there, and after that you can ban any religion not christian around the country, and maybe after that you can enforce the christian religion on everyone, if you can do one you can do the other.
Evolution is logical
Creationism isnt
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mark
canada aint so cold… hell in the summer the temperatures sometimes reach 100+ ferenheight… exceptmin BC where the summers are cooler then normal and the winters are too warm for snow lol…
and if you decide to drop by the province quebec.. ull hate the french.. but ull surely love the internet… 10 and 20 mbps connections for under 60$ USD… and 5 mbps for 30$ usd… always fun :P
Canada is a great place to live in… except teens nowadays seem to generally like drugs a little too much….
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Oh, and one little point I wanted to add to the excellent debunking here.
America’s “roots” included slavery.
Just a little awakening for those who believe that we have a utopian past.
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Allen -
Execellent point. Then just play that out for a couple of hundred years. This utopian Christian state will break up into “sects” because Baptists are “more equal” than Catholics.
Any large organization will tend to subdivide its self into smaller groups. Those smaller groups will then get into power struggles for control of the organization.
AND Secret -
Don’t forget the Exodus, Chapter 21 – the “Biblical Policies and Procedures Manual Regarding Slavery.”
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The only Pirate you are is a BUTT PIRATE….butt plugging parrots too!
WOW, SO YER A HOMOPHOBE TOO…
You and your group of sick, misguided, ugly, half-witted, inbred, drugged up, hippie friends really need a good ass beating. When my deployment of catching drug runners ends in South
America,
WOW, “CATCHING DRUG RUNNERS”, LOL, YEAH RIGHT.
and I return to San Diego, CA, why don’t we meet somewhere? You bring your freaks…um, I mean “friends”, and I’ll bring my friends. We’ll have a nice little discussion…….
WOW, DID YOU HAVE A VISION FROM GOD AND HE TOLD YOU BEAT UP OTHERS THAT DO NOT SHARE YOUR VIEWS.
However, before we meet I suggest you fill out a last will and testament……..
WOW, WHY FILL OUT A WILL, IS YER GOD TELLING YOU TO KILL OTHERS NOW?
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Oh, and one little point I wanted to add to the excellent debunking here.
America’s “roots” included slavery.
Just a little awakening for those who believe that we have a utopian past.
Posted by: What happened to Ty? | August 26, 2006 at 06:03 AM
As with anything I look at the both sides of this issue, slavery is evil yes, it was good business then though. I do not advocate the slavery of any person that would take away their freedoms.
However you must look at the big picture, back then having a slave was essential to having a good business and provide enough, cotton, food, etc. to the economy. And may I remind you that the slaves many wealthy people had then were treated better than they were treated in the 19th century.
Adam’s said something to the effect of…
“Any man who loves his wealth more than his liberty is not worthy of this freedom, he should be sent back from whence he came, bend down and lick the hand that feeds you.”
No time has ever been a utopia. Many when considering the Bill of rights and the Declaration of Independence, questioned the articles because of the wealthy men who had slaves. Many of the men in Congress then hated slavery.
And may I remind you also that many slaves then were recruited into the war because they wanted the war to happen, not because they were drafted, mind you some were ordered to come with their masters, but the majority of them wanted freedom, irony, tragic that it did not happen, but irony none the less.
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hey, remember when this carpenter named jeff, jess, jesus that’s it, created the universe, only to not mention it when he was preaching PEACE AND TOLLERENCE all over the middle east. That’s probably a bit harsh, i can accept any ones beleifs (as misguided and ignorant as they are) for what they are worth.
Quick physics question for those who crave the intelligunt desine, when an apple falls at 9.81ms-2 does that happen because of the earths gravitational attraction or that god wasn’t around to catch it?
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“And look at our constitution where there was no referrence to Buddah, and there certainly was no signatures with the name Muhammad. Freedom of religion in America is forms of Christianity (catholic, protestant, etc.) Wake up to the facts!!!”
Aha! Your poor, misguided soul. Let me enlighten you and Sause the road to the Spaghetti Gates where strippers dance eternally and beer flows like the Nile.
You see, because of the fact that you were rejecting His Saucyness he decided to insert his noodley appendage into your frontal lobe, a common tactic used by The Noodley Pirate to disorient any given target. This direct contact with the noodley appendage caused you to create a logical fallacy in your post, while you might have made a valid point before you hit “Post”, or at least thought you did, you have been “noodley appendaged”.
What you are doing is denying the antecedent, as well as arguing from ignorance. I know, I know, you must be slapping your forehead saying ” HOW COULD I?” but I shall forge on in the name of His Noodleyness.
You see, you are saying that freedom of religion is restricted to only Christianity! Right? Some conclusion there! But for the purposes of logic education we shall ignore the fact that the claim is obviously “wack”. You state that this must be true because Buddha or Muhammad aren’t mentioned. Uh oh, logical fallacy! You see, you are saying:
The Constitution does not mention Buddha.
There were no signatures of “Muhammad” on the Constituion.
Therefore, freedom of religion is constricted to only sects of Christianity!
See what is wrong there? Additionally, as for the argument from ignorance bit, you failed to mention His Saucyness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Although, it is his fault for noodle appendaging your somewhat feeble mind. May His Grace bless you!
Ramen.
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Ty is only one of the many inbred that has suffered a noodlobotomy and is running hither and tither around red-stateistan with sauce for brains.
It is better to pity his kind and focus on converting the world to FSMism.
The worthy will follow.
The unworthy will drool and shoot one another.
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Wow, he even puts down the name of Budhism. Now this is probably one of the best religions, because it teaches not only love and tolerance, but:
1. It does not at any point condone murder, unlike biblical based religions, who always seem to find some passage that allows them to do what they know is morally wrong.
2. It is pretty much one of the few, if not the only, religion that actually teaches acceptance of other religions.
Now, if only this was taught more widely amongst the other worldwide religions, we’d all get along just fine…
Or would we?
The fact is that these people are just using religion as an excuse to hate, and they would just find a different excuse to hate if you took religion away from them. People in general arent very nice.
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You do realize that “budhism” is the way of the flying spaghetti monster and the beer volcanoes? There are Budlight volcanoes and Budselect volcanoes. As a group, they are know as Budhism; it is the special name for Budweiser volcanoes. :p
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‘A good ass beating’ eh? I’m intrigued. Will there be lubricant involved? Where per chance would one go about recieving said ‘ass beating’. It’s for…errrrr…a friend. Yes a friend. Thats it, a friend. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm…ass beating. Look forward to it honey.
Yours truly
Mr P. Ness and Mr E. Rection
P.S. Bring oars.
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“Allen” wrote: back then having a slave was essential to having a good business and provide enough, cotton, food, etc. to the economy. And may I remind you that the slaves many wealthy people had then were treated better than they were treated in the 19th century.
I, for one, am SHOCKED to see that this homophobic prosthelytizing christian is a racist as well.
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Me?
If so, let me clarify. I am not a racist, in fact I think that it is possibly the cruelest part of American history, and I am not Christian, I despise the bible as I despise anything that is cruel.
I was looking at both sides on the slavery issue, and over all I would choose freedom for any man/woman when it came to something like this. Slavery wasnt right in the least bit, but to them it was good business. That is all that I was saying.
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“Of course you won’t show up. What’s the matter, your little “spaghetti monster” won’t protect you? Of course not, for it does not exist. However, God is always on my side and protects me.”
You could switch the two Deity’s around in this sentence, and it would be the same argument!!
PS. I’m so glad Ty isn’t around. Too much of a fundie.
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Look even closer…
Alabama 1901, Preamble. We *T*he people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almight*Y* God*,* do ordain and e*ST*ablish the *F*ollowing Constit*U*tion.
Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God a*N*d to th*O*se wh*O* founded our nation and pioneered this great land.
Arizona 1911, Pream*B*le. We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution…
Ty, STFU NOOB.
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I truly love the hate mail on this site. Is it homophobic? Check. Is it violent? Check. Is it riddled with spelling and grammar errors? Check. It must be Christian hate mail!
A couple of thoughts.
First of all, I can’t stand the people who think they speak for everyone when they say the FSM is make-believe and we don’t believe in him. Maybe YOU don’t, buddy-boy, but some of us do. Arrgh!
Second: Allen, I respect that you’re trying to be historically conscious, but I have to say that you are tragically ignorant of U.S. slavery. I’m guessing here, but it sounds like you never had anything more in-depth than high-school education on the subject. High schools generally don’t go into the incredibly high incidences of rape, murder, and brutality inherent in U.S. slavery. Futhermore, USAians knew as early as the late 1700’s that slavery was actually _bad_ for business – intelligent people recognized that slaves don’t do good work because they aren’t very motivated. Funny how that works. So, seriously, as long as you keep saying what you’re saying, you’re going to get labeled as a “racist” – simply because you’re so willfully ignorant about a subject that is so personal to so many people. I suggest you pick up some good reading material before pretending to be an expert next time. Cheers!
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Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others.
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Yeeeah, Animal Farm represent!
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Glad some one understands it
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Glad some one understands it
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What’s this guys dealio? Isn’t the bible supposed to teach tolerance and good will? Well I guess it also teaches to rage holy war for the gains of God so at least they’re being consistant with the inconsistancy of the bible.
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The only Pirate you are is a BUTT PIRATE. Butt plugging parrots too!
**Ooo… a Gay Pirate/Butt Plugging Parrot combo? Sounds awesome! Tell you what. You go ahead and be homophobic. I’ll sit here and be heterophobic.**
You and your group of sick **I am perfectly sane and fit as a fiddle, so I see no sickness with me.**, misguided **Who’s misguiding me? If God is real, he knew this would happen, and he guided me here, I would guess. Other than that, I am my guide and I guided myself here, I meant to go nowhere else.**, ugly **I am quite often told that I am not ugly, thank you very much.**, half-witted **You are the one spending your time trying to threaten someone’s idea of… Oh, nevermind. You are just dense.**, inbred **That would be Christians.**, drugged up **I do take Concerta, but that’s because people don’t have the mental strength to put up with me.**, hippie **Hippies and pirates have very different views. Where did you get the idea that Pastafarians are hippies?** friends really need a good ass beating **I thought you were homophobic…Will you at least give a reach around?**. When my deployment of catching drug runners ends in South America, and I return to San Diego, CA **Not San Diego , Canada?**, why don’t we meet somewhere? **You mean like a… a date? =3** You bring your freaks…um, I mean “friends” **Erm… you seem like the freak here.**, and I’ll bring my friends **And we’ll have a gay old time!**. We’ll have a nice little discussion…
However, before we meet I suggest you fill out a last will and testament…
**Now apparently, you are the freak here. You are the one chasing drug runners in South America, although drug runners aren’t actually ‘runners’ until they are out of there. You’re trying to perform an abortion to kill an 8-year-old there. You are also half-witted. You think we will care that Mr Macho Commando doesn’t like what we’re doing? You go ahead and kill us or pound our asses or whatever; murder of a Gay Pirate/Butt Plugging Parrot is no more legal than Plain-Jane murder, which is more illegal than drug running. If that was to complex for you Colonel Matrix, I essentially said murder is worse than drug running. Now, go eat some Green Berets and sharpen your garden tools. I’ll just sit over here on the other side of the US while you and your buddies ‘Army it up’ waiting for me and my freaks to show. Have fun!**
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I am not an athiest, I am not spiritual, and I am not completely affiliated with the scientific community, but I know enough about the bible to know that jesus would not like you beating up/killing “homos” in his name (only been to church 5 times). Follow him all the way or none at all, but dont drag his name in the shit
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Suul Matuul, Bah’hi also preaches that all religions should be respected, all come from the one god. FSM, if I remember correctly.
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What’s this guys dealio? Isn’t the bible supposed to teach tolerance and good will? Well I guess it also teaches to rage holy war for the gains of God so at least they’re being consistant with the inconsistancy of the bible
Why yes thats why “Jesus” died for there sins, so that idiots like this one here can go about killing homos. What a nice religion :)
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Ty,
You are correct in your assessment that Muhammad and Buddha aren’t mentioned in the US Constitution nor in any state constitution. However, you are remiss to observe that Jesus’ name also fails to appear in any of those documents. Therefore, the God or Creator references could just as easily be read to refer to FSM or any other deity.
The OP has never seen combat in any way, drug runners or no. It was a very pathetic attempt to sound tough. It is worth noting that the vast majority of South American drug interdiction is run from Florida, while very little (aka none) is run from San Diego. Anyone with a map would probably know this.
Todd
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Is it just me that finds it tempting to start a drug running trade now based on this shining example of what our opponents would be.
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i may be sick, but i’m definitely not ugly!
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“You are aware, are you not, that the founding fathers left the old world, and formed the new to escape religious persecution. The freedom to believe in any religion one chooses, or none at all, is the reason America is.”
If you’re referring to the fuckin homo puritaints, they didn’t leave to escape persecution, they left to show the church of england there way was better way, and to learn by example. They also didn’t want anyone to have a different religion besides theirs, but i dont care what the hell you believe in, just get the facts right
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1. NO the Puritans did leave england to escape religous persucution.
2. As someone has said before me george washington wrote in a letter that he did not care wether his soldiers/workers were muslim,jewish or any other religion so at least one of our founding fathers must not have cared wether his workers were a different religion he just wanted good workers.
3.HAHA you just got your ASS whooped by a 12 year old.
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Hey asswipe, I’m in San Diego all the time. Am I supposed to be scared? I’m not.
First, I’m sure that you don’t have any friends. Second, if you do; they are all to busy playing with themselves. Run along to the circle jerk jr. !
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Ok guys lets get one thing straight. Saying words like “asswipe” and “twat” on the internet do not make you COOL. In fact you just sound immature.
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Will you be bringing the seized drugs from South America to the meeting?
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lets hope not. they could’ve been poisoned before the meeting… if enough brainpower is applicable…
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When I saw the list of Preambles, I was grateful that my state had a decent one. After all, it is the “Live Free or Die” state. I am grateful that I can go to sleep at night knowing that my children will not be subjected to the travesty of Creationism or ID being taught in a science class. I don’t care if the theories of Creationism or ID are taught in other contexts, as long as they are presented as theories and not fact. Of course, they should prominently feature Pastafarianism among the theories.
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We are so damn funny…
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Yes, Jacob, Yes we are.
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Ooh! Oooh! Can our ‘discussion’ include me beating your inbread, sick, misguided, ugly, half-witted, drugged-up, redneck ass from here to Nantuckett with my broadsword? Cause that’d sure be fun.
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Yarr why don’t i give ‘yer no good redneck ass a good ol pirate beating, and then you can walk the plank into davey jones locker.
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