Hey, I was you website though a form that was arguing Christians vs evolution. Then someone said what about FSM and we learned of your weird clan thing. I went to you “hate mail” section and was sadden by what some people said and how they displayed Christians as Hippocrates. But, I’m hoping you put me into your “hate mail” except this is more of a love mail letter. Knowing you will make fun of this and maybe mess with words I will say what I have to say. When I was looking though your site I literally started to tear up thinking of what you guys are doing and how you are mocking God. because I know that if you were to die today that you would all go to hell. unless at one point you declared Christ as your lord and savior. I just want to say i guess is that God loves you no matter what and that I will pray that you may come to accept Jesus in your heart and I know that this will most likely not effect you but, I had to try so God-bless and keep you safe and out of harm and remember no matter how much you hate him he loves you two times as much :)
PS email me if you put this on your site (and pirates are awesome) -Erik Jackson
There are three t-shirts on my “To Buy” list:
1) I found Jesus. He was behind the sofa the whole time.
2) I taught your girlfriend that thing you like.
3) He’s your God, *you* go to hell.
Sometimes the truth hurts. Hell is real. So’s heaven. God isn’t so much concerened with those two things though. He’s concerned about your life now. I’m not going to say “repent now, lest you be lost to the fire of hell forever.” Not for me to judge. I do think God has a sense of humor, and that FSM is probably cracking Him up right now. As for intelligent design, it’s crap. God made it. You can throw a bunch a fancy words into the mix, but it all boils down to that. And if you refuse to say that in your theory, then it holds no weight. As for evolution, the only question I have, is why, if we’ve done so much evolving, is there not a single fossil that is in that process of change? All the “scientific record” is is a bunch of bones that are like a stone path. I choose creation because it’s concrete. It says God made it, and it was good. I can live with that simplicity. I truly hope you all find what you are looking for, and if that is a beer volcano and stripper factory, then so be it. But be prepared to take responsibility for yourself, should you be wrong. I’ll do the same if, on the day I die, I find myself at the gates of spaghetti.
“I choose creation because it’s concrete.”
I have given this statement a lot of thought, and yet I still cannot make up my mind wether to counter it with ridicule or reason.
Well played, sir.
“As for evolution, the only question I have, is why, if we’ve done so much evolving, is there not a single fossil that is in that process of change? All the “scientific record” is is a bunch of bones that are like a stone path. I choose creation because it’s concrete. It says God made it, and it was good.”
Umm…Damn Son you really have no idea of how evolution works do you? First off evolution is a constant process of gradual change but mostly it is not. The most drastic changes come over the period of a few centuries or even a single generation. The process of change usualy isnt gradual. So this proof (not a single fossil that is in that process of change)you are looking for may not exist for two reasons. Fossils are rare you may be talking about a fossil showing a specific mutation that living animals only had for perhaps a few hundred years. Your discounting that is like me saying on my block there is a 1984 Ford Car and a 1986 Ford Car. But there is no 1985 Ford Car there fore there never was a 1985 Ford Car. Actualy your arguement is more like because there is no 1985 Ford Car on my street neither Ford nor Cars actualy are real. Expecting a year by year fossil record shows how little you understand about the earth your god created. If the fossil record had one fossil from every 1000 years palentologists would be blissful.
The other reason your demand for a single fossil that is in that process of change is unreasonalble is that sometimes evolution may not work like that. There may be no process of change. The parents are of one varity and the offspring are of a different varity. If the change was of an imediate varity the creature in the process of change never existed and therefore could never leave a fossil. This kind of viable mutation (evolution?)can be shown in a labratory setting.
“All the “scientific record” is is a bunch of bones that are like a stone path. I choose creation because it’s concrete. It says God made it, and it was good. I can live with that simplicity.”
You discredit the scientific record because it is nothing but a bunch of bones and there is nothing concrete about it. Ok I might be able to give you that. Unfortunatly you go on to write, “It says God made it, and it was good.” And that is also all the proof you offer. By “It” I assume you mean the bible. Ok fine you have a book saying god made it. I would not hardly declare that as concrete evidence. A book that existed only has oral history and scatered scroles until 325 when the First Ecumenical Council of the Catholic Church was held in Nicaea. Your faith may be concrete but your evidence is not. I am glad you find it simple. Which is unfortunate because faith is about questioning and exploring the mystery which is never simple. I guess simplicity for simple people. I have wondered off topic and just become insulting back to the topic…You say sience is not concrete and all it has is bones. Where are the bones of Adam and Eve? Where are the bones of John the Baptist? Where are the bones Pontias Pilot? Where are the bones of Abraham? If bones are the ultimate proof for the past existence of something I submit that these people never existed. Kind of an eronious arguement dont you think.
Now my disclaimer I believe in god and that god created people threw evolution. ID should never be tought in a science class. ID is theology and suitible for a theology class not science. A creative intelegence is THEOLOGY and NOT SCIENCE. Keep ID out of our science and bio clases.
If Pastafarians should go to Hell (according to Erik), I’d hate to see where Christians go. Jesunderworld. Yep, Jesunderworld, where the Christians can finally admit that they think Jesus is better than G-d.
the ultimate irony is that there is no need of defense. My faith is simple, but my relationshsip to God certainly is not. I believe becasue I want to believe, and what I believe. You believe what you want to believe. No one can change each others minds, so there is little need of bickering over the way life turned into what it is today. I wasn’t trying to discredit evolution. I was simply stating why I choose God instead. And I agree. Intelligent design should not be taught. Chrurch and State, and what not…I may be the only Christian who thinks that, but the simple truth is faith is something for the individual person to come to or deny.You are responsible for the life you lead. Free will…it’s a bitch…that’s why there’s so many churches out there who want to control it. The simple fact is that God loves you, even if you hate Him. Try wrapping your head around it…I know I can’t. That’s why it’s faith. This life is too short to spend hours on the internet arguing between apes-to-humans or God-breathed life. The bigger discussion should be: why spaghetti and not lasagna?
Josh, if you are really genuinely interested in transitional fossils, here is a very good link.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC200.html
As a younger woman in Christian school, I, too, was taught that transitional fossils just don’t exist. And, you’re right - if evolution is real, there must be some somewhere. I was furious when I grew up and found that there are many, many well-documented transitional fossils. I don’t know how to explain the Christian textbooks that claim otherwise - they are either misinformed or lying.
Don’t take my word for it. There are plenty of resources devoted to transitional fossils. Definitely take time to check it out. It’s very fascinating. I don’t believe in GOd, or at least not your God, but you seem like a kind polite person, so may you receive the blessings you deserve from whatever God you favor. :)
hey thanks. Nice to know we don’t have to be asses to one another and not agree. Good luck finding the truth you pursue as well.
http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1120.html
there…..i feel good now.
George Carlin is funnier. For the record, I do believe that dinosaurs existed. As for when, I really don’t care. It could have taken God a few(hundred) million years to work that all out…I’m just saying it’s easier for my simple, human brain to process that we did not, in fact, evolve from primordial goo. Whenever I think about evolution and survival of the fittest, I always wonder this: why is it we are the only animals on this planet to develop technology that goes beyond poking at anthills with sticks? Why is it we, as a race are the only ones who kill just because we can? What is it about us that makes us so full of hate? If not sin, what? It’s there. Nobody can deny that people as a whole treat other people like shit…or at the very least, an inconvenience. Why, if there is no God, or if we are simply the strongest survivors of ancient battles with nature, are we the only ones on this planet that care about whether or not there IS a God? Just a few questions that I ponder from time to time. I have no answers for them. I just like to think about them, ya know?
Tell god to tell noah to put the hippocrates back in his ark
Hey, Josh, that ‘kill because we can’ thing. You ever owned a cat? They kill for fun. As for the hate, most of the haters also have faith. Hitler was Catholic, you know. Yet atheist Bill Gates runs one of the biggest charities in the world.
Go figure!
okey i belive in Jesus and i am christian ok u ppl dun believe i wont force u to but still i dun think u should mock though i definitely believe in darwins theorey of evolution but hey its just me, all im satying is dun mock k ?
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that guy from there u kno……
I’ve never seen so many spelling mistakes in so few lines as in the post above me…
Wow!
I believe that was a joke post, matey: no one who spells that badly could get the anti-spam code right when posting…
Another Christian who refuses to truly acknowledge Jesus’ teachings of tolerence, peace and forgiveness.
By threatening us with going to hell you are spitting upon the core of all of Jesus’ teachings, “Love Thy Neighbour.” If you truly loved your neighbour, you wouldn’t have the sinful urge to cast down his beliefs. Would leave him go about his way, even if you think he is wrong.
FSM isn’t mocking God, it’s mocking a round about way of forcing a religion to be thought in schools, which is illegal in your country. People like you are the ultimate arguement that ID shouldn’t be thought in schools, at least if you’d shut up they could claim it was somehow scientific rather than a sneaky way of forcing your beliefs on people. It is clear that you are willing to go out of your way to force people to your point of view, even if it means breaking the law. Do you think Jesus would look favourably on someone whose life is dedicated to telling his neighbour that he is wrong and will be tortured in a firey pit for all eternity?
You make me sick, faux-christian. I wish that people like you would stop giving real christians a bad name. If you ignore the fundementalist nutjobs, Christianity tries to teach a good message. If there were more real Christians around, the world would be a true Utopia.
I believe in Jesus… and the FSM… Jesus is human, humans are meat, the FSM has meatballs, it’s quite obvious! The FSM’s meatballs are Jesusmeat!
My thoughts exactly.
Keep up the good blogging.
-Sean
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I wonder why Christians are so upset about evolution being taught in schools in the first place? From what I’ve been reading in this thread, Christians don’t really seem to know anything about it anyhow. This tells me that either:
A - Public schools aren’t doing a good job of teaching evolution.
B - Christian’s are really bad at retaining scientific information and understanding “scientific” theory, or the very definition of the word “scientific.” (this actually explains quite well why Christians don’t want to have to learn about it.)
or C - Christians are superior, extra-intuitive creatures, with no need for science, and absolutely all the answers to everything inbedded in their minds by Jesus.
Judging by the hate mail, and how gracefully and intelligently it was delivered, I’d have to say that the C option is pretty unlikely.
Ah… WE LOVE YOU TOO, ERIK JACKSON! I hope everything works out for you, in this life and in whatever happens to you after it. We all want to reduce suffering in the world, we just have different ideas about how to do that.
And just so you don’t assume I’m nothing more than a flaky hippy (because I’m so many other things in addition), I ASSURE you that if you cut me off on the highway I’d STILL flip you off. WITH LOVE.
LOVE,
THE ATHEIST COMMUNITY