I do believe you are

Published July 24th, 2006 by Bobby Henderson

I do believe you are a fucking retard and I hope you burn in hell. Fuck you and the flying spaghetti monster. Postmodernism is a self defeating concept. Read Josh McDowell’s book for a good overview of what life is truly about you dumbass humanist. You obviously think life is just a big damn joke. Its all for humor and entertainment. I look forward to the day it fucks you right in the ass. Oh the age of the earth doesn’t fucking matter! Technology, hell we’d be better of without it anyways. God is not a flying spaghetti monster because only a human could think up such a dumbass retarded idea like that. Intelligent Design is observable. It does not require faith, it requires the ability to understand what irreducible complexity is along with several other phenomena that has been discovered in Science. Evolution is a conjecture. Of course, an idiot of your brain size would probably believe we came from monkeys…and quite frankly, you are probably the best evidence that Evolutionists have that human beings came from a monkey. I’m still having problems teaching my dog 2+2=4. I hope to someday prove Darwinian philosophy and be able to have my dog recite Shakespeare to me. Then I will believe Evolution is true. Until then….its all a big damn joke. Charles Darwin went insane when he was 28 anyways (didn’t know that did you?) Let me put it this way to you concerning your bologna flying spaghetti monster. If we are created in the image of what you believe God to be, we would look like spaghetti. Common sense is a valuable asset. Lets try this…I’m going to go very sloooooowly for you Bobby. Retarded people…like Bobby Henderson….will burn in hell unless you give your life to Jesus Christ. Life is not hard. Neither is it a joke. But I believe that anybody with a brain the size of a peanut should be exposed for the fraud that the person is. Quite frankly, I do not know why I’m wasting my time…because you are probably too stupid to read this e-mail anyways. At any rate, I have better things to do than point out your circular reasoning within your arguments. You are a disgrace to anything that humanity or your stupid existentialistic philosophy represents.

Casey Powell

*update*

Unless you want to be sued, take my name off of that message.  Thanks.

Casey Powell

*update 2*

Just take the whole message off of the board!  I gave you no permission to post that.  I want it off, or I will contact my lawyer.  And that is not a joke.

Casey Powell

*note from Bobby * - I’m not going to take your name off the message.  However, I will henceforth refer to you as either C. Powell or Casey P. so that you remain anonymous.  Additionally, I’ll include your email address here, in case anyone needs to get in touch with you. *

jesusmarine2005@yahoo.com

*update 3*

Actually no. I am not a piece of spaghetti! Neither are you. Therefore, God
  created us in the image of himself. When looking at the spaghetti monster, I
  then look back at God. When basing a comparison on "COMMON SENSE" the FSM
  makes absolutely NO SENSE! "Why then are the mountain tops not made of
  spaghetti noodalege. Is not the water on the earth a steaming pot of
  spaghetti sauce?" Dude thats what your crap sounds like. So in essence, from
  having read your website, I can conclude that it is irrational to believe in
  the FSM and that the Bible is much more explanatory than the FSM Gospel. For
  this reason, basing the evidence on a fair and objective criteria that a)
  which explains the most accurate concepts of the human existence in today’s
  reality (Ockham’s Razor) and b) was the FSM given any significant value
  beyond the scope of today’s audience. When doing a fair and observant
  observation of the material, then I can say no. As far as whether or not the
  Bible misses a few thousand years, go to a site and find Genesis…..usually
  the origins are given a ??? All we know is the beginning. "In the beginning,
  God." Thus it goes back to the beginning, whenever that is. If by chance it
  was written a few thousands years later, then we can also notate that the
  Jews were VERY good at keeping accurate oral compilations and records, but
  of course your 10 year old knowledge of how the Bible was compiled would
  discredit your credulity on the issue. The reason Evolution makes no sense
  is for several reasons. One – we have no evidence of eyewitnesses that saw a
  guy with bad mental health on the island of Galapogos, besides his "claim"
  which I definitely do not trust. No. two – we have lacking evidence of how
  water came about based on the evidence of Evolutionary Scientists. With this
  in mind, I can accurately claim that if it happened the way Evolutionists
  claim, then we have an issue, because the sun’s energy would cause
  everything in the world to burn up and die! The Genesis recollection is more
  accurate based on this criteria. The necessary components for the necessity
  of life on earth proves the Creationist model to be true and accurate. The
  answer to your question about dinosaurs is that the Bible actually makes
  numerous accounts of dinosaurs existing with man, though you seem to be
  quite ignorant of that as well. So the fact that you have conjured up an
  imaginary FSM is not too impressive…and neither is your support of
  Evolution. And as far as when "Jesus was watching" lets see. What does Jesus
  say, "Before there was Abraham, I am." Meaning, I was real from the very
  beginning of time. I am displays a claim to deity here. "I am who I am"
  from Exodus. I have plenty of evidence to back this up, but most of these
  items are beyond the scope of what I can fit in this e-mail. I would
  recommend for further consultation to refer to Glenn Miller at

www.christian-thinktank.com. Thats the most unbiased site I have ever found
  (secular and nonsecular). The man asks for no money, will not accept
  donations, and does not try to sell a book or anything whatsoever on it. It
  is not a site of propaganda at all. It is a site for skeptics (like
  yourself) to ask very tough questions and for him to give you a direct and
  honest answer to your skepticism. I actually challenge you to challenge him
  with your questions.

God bless,

Casey Powell   C. Powell

*update 4*

expect to hear from my lawyer

You are committing a tort.  This is a form of defamation of character known
  as libel.  I can sue you for creating a publication of something I gave you
  no permission to actually post on your website (and actually explicitly told
  you not to post on your site).  Keep it up there and I’m pretty sure I can
  get a few million dollars from you there Mr. Henderson.

Casey Powell

*update 5*

also keep in mind

If you want people to take you seriously, you might want to consider taking
  my name off of it (and especially putting my e-mail up there?  Come on,
  thats a load right there).  You are going to earn a horrible reputation that
  way. Keep it up.

*update 6*

Are you trying to convert or deconvert?

*update 7*

What I can definitely say is that I gave you no permission for posting that
  message.  As a matter of fact, I told you explicitly NOT to post that
  message. I have the e-mail to confirm it (from my other account).  I also
  have your contact information down as well.  And I’m scheduled to meet with
  my lawyer tomorrow concerning the matter at hand.  Apparently, he thinks I
  have a case (for libel that is).  So I’d recommend unsoliciting that
  statement unless legal action should be taken against you regarding the
  matter.

Until then,

(I have been requested (per lawyer) not to provide my name)

*update 8*

Bobby Henderson

Age: 24
  From: Tucson Arizona

I believe thats all I need to locate you….thanks.

*update 9*

See…the problem is this…I did not make that quote

Godfrey v. Cornell University/ Dolenga

In this case, Godfrey alleged that several defamatory messages about him
  were posted on on the soc.culture.canada newsgroup by a Cornell University
  graduate student and Canadian citizen (Michael Dolenga) using Cornell as an
  ISP. Soon after Dolenga’s original post, Godfrey requested that Cornell
  University block Dolenga from posting any additional such messages. Cornell
  denied this request Several years after the postings had been made, Godfrey
  sued both Dolenga (who had since graduated) and Cornell University in
  England for defamation. Godfrey won a default judgement against Dolenga, who
  did not offer a defense. … [edited for brevity, it goes on for pages]…

*update 10* – Aug 1st, 2006

Bobby,
You have 2 options.  One you take my name off of your site, you take the messages off of your site that were posted by you and you take my e-mail off of your site.  In the event that you don’t, I sue you for $400,000 for libel and invasion of privacy (and I’m not kidding about that either).  You have 24 hours to decide which alternative you would rather go through.

*update 11* – August 1st, 2006

I am personally done talking to a bunch of 8 year olds who have no clue
or purpose for life period. I could argue with an 8 year old all day
long and get nowhere, so I’m over this retarded childish behavior. The
grace I am willing to give these people is the relinquishment from this
website (thats right, I’m trying to get this shut down for good). Bobby
Henderson, I’ll see you in court. The subpoena is coming your way.

Casey Powell

*update 12* – some older unpublished emails I received from Casey. (the bold was added for emphasis)

*received july 30*

and in exchange for taking my quote off – I feel one good turn deserves another.  I was getting ready to start
a webpage to smeer your site.  In return for taking the quote off, I
will not use (and I mean this, NEVER use) the flying spaghetti monster
eating horse to start a campaign to smeer your site.  I will also send
you the picture if you wish too, as you requested.  I feel that a fair
exchange.  In fact, shoot, I might even buy your book just to read it
and see your point of view on this thing. Thanks man,

Casey Powell

*received july 30* (bold added for emphasis)

By the way, I shall submit an apology for that e-mail.  I have no right to tell you you will burn in hell.  I was simply infuriated by the comments on your page.  God bless you Bobby, in all seriousness, I hope you find Jesus Christ for who he truly is.  Not just a joke made up by mankind, but a loving Savior who would do anything for you.  The only true God who truly created the world as the finely tuned universe that it is.  Bobby, God bless you and in a way, I’m glad you have this site.  It shows that in some way you are searching for something.  I’m going to be honest with you.  My position is this.  When I was searching for whatever it was it was…(whoever it may be, whatever it may be), I kept an open mind.  I looked at both sides honestly and came to a conclusion based on that.  I support ID and Creationism because from my review of both sides, Evolutionists just can’t answer the questions I have, whereas ID sites have no problem.  Evolutionistic sites (pandasthumb.org, talkorigin.net, glennmorton@entouch.net) simply just don’t add up.  I’m kind of a new Christian in a sense, so I’m used to using language like that, though I’m attempting to try to get better with that.  Please accept my apology, as what I stated was truly wrong.  Furthermore, please take it off your site, as I don’t want to disgrace Christ with those words of hate.  May the hate be replaced with love Bobby.

Casey Powell

Here’s another message from Casey, also received July 30th *

This is defamation of character for two reasons.  One, I did not post the claim.  Someone has recently gotten a hold of my Yahoo account, which I am now cancelling as a result.  No. 2, I believe I have told you numerous times to take that off of my account.  When I initially found out it had been posted under my e-mail address accounts, I immediately believe I had contacted you to take it off of the page.  That is a libel claim for those two reasons.  It is a defamation of character issue, so I would recommend that you take it off of your site.

Casey Powell

*And another email from Casey:

I’m trying to tell you that I, Casey Powell, did not write the message. Somehow, it was posted by someone who broke into my yahoo account which is the reason I am not using the yahoo account to contact you now.  I can’t even get into the other yahoo account Bobby.  I am terminating the account due to privacy issues.  So while it was from my yahoo account, I personally did not write it, which is why I’m trying to ask you to remove my name from it.  I would personally like for you to take the whole message off, because I believe it is quite an offensive comment to your publication of material on your website.  But at the least, I don’t believe in submitting comments like that to people’s websites and did not submit that to yours.  I have been trying to explain that I did not make the post.  This is a personal matter that I am trying to get cleared up by deleting the yahoo account that this comment was posted from.  I apologize for this disturbance to your site.  Please be assured that I would not submit anything like this to anybody’s site Mr. Henderson.

Casey Powell

*update 13* – August 2nd, 2006

*note from Bobby-  The original hate mail and Casey’s comments to this blog come from the same IP address.



319 Responses to “I do believe you are”

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  1. chris whelehan says:

    dude…..do us all a favor
    get laid

  2. Cameron says:

    Don’t worry, Casey. As a stong Christian, I’m sure you stand behind your email without fear of what other people think. Besides, your god will save you from the retaliation which may or may not insue, based on your single-minded views. …won’t he?

  3. Casey Powell says:

    I did not issue that comment. Someone got a hold of my account, though I did submit an apology for Bobby Henderson and took responsible for the matter at hand, I did not post the actual comment. That was posted from my yahoo account, yes. But someone actually managed to break into my yahoo account, which is the reason I’m ready to extinguish the account. I am hoping that Mr. Henderson will take my name off of the comment as it was not initially issued by myself, though I suspect someone from the public library who actually may have somehow gotten into my account from Yahoo. The fact though, that he is defamating my character through the post and by my request for him to remove the post (as well as actually putting up my e-mail address that I did not issue him permission to use) can tell you a little something about the character of this website itself (notice how I have made no claims regarding the website itself, as I can not and will not reissue a defamation of character against Mr. Bobby Henderson). I apologize for any misunderstanding regarding the quote itself. Please acknowledge that it was not written by the alleged “Casey Powell” as mentioned within the context of the quote by Mr. Bobby Henderson. Thanks and have a good day.

    God bless,
    Casey Powell

  4. Casey Powell says:

    If you are actually willing to have an intellectual conversation with me concerning your views, then I will engage in a conversation with you. If not, I will simply dismiss this site as “single-minded” since it does not take a fair account of what Christianity is all about and assumes its position as superior to all others (self stultifyingly so).

    God bless,
    the “real” Casey Powell

  5. Casey Powell says:

    As far as whether you wish to turn the question against Jesus….think about this. 9 New Testament writers compiled the Bible. Luke was a doctor. He accepted the virgin birth of Christ while giving an honest account to “Theophilus.” This is important because Theophilus was a Roman authority who was willing to kill Luke for telling a lie. Based on empirical observations made by Sir William Ramsey, a famous archaeologist who found more than enough proof for the archaeological superiority contained within the books of Luke and Acts, Ramsey is quoted as stating, “Luke should be placed along the same lines of the top historians of all time.” You might remember Ramsey as the guy who founded the periodic table. Niels Bohr later contributed to other discoveries of chemical elements founded within the periodic table. As far as other outside evidence of Christ, we have more than ample besides the Biblical writers. For instance, Flavius Josephus was an orthodox Jew who had ABSOLUTELY no reason to lie about who Christ was. As a matter of fact, his partiality would probably lay him to be more apt to discredit this source. I am going to show you an excerpt from a book I’m going to be publishing soon:
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  6. Casey Powell says:

    Why is all of this important? Because of the Bible is as accurate as its claims are, then Romans 10:9-13 is very significant. 9That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”[a] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[b]

    I hope you’re beginning to see why Christians believe what they do. The God of “Jews and Gentiles” means he is God over EVERYBODY! In other words, it is not a matter of being “tolerant.” In certain situations, as such if a theif were stealing your wallet of purse, you would definitely agree that you should not be tolerant of this attitude (or just belong in a looney bin somewhere). It is a matter of an objective statement that applies, not just to me, not just to my church, not just to people who are Christians, but to EVERY “tribe, tongue and nation.” These words are from Christ himself, the Holy Spirit who actually lives within everybody (you probably are not spiritually mature to understand this enough). A nonacknowledgement of metaphysical implications (also known as postmodernism, a self defeating concept) is the only way we can get around the Holy Spirit. Parapscyhology has enhanced our ability to be able to evaluate the actual supernatural existence of our world. Psychologists today actually study the effects that demons and other supernatural spirits have on other people. One example studied thoroughly by Psychologists is Edgar Cayce. So the reason I’m sharing this with you is not to just take up space but to show you that this thing is real and not a joke. If anybody has any questions, I will submit to you my e-mail address (as long as you have honest questions and are earnestly seeking the truth). cpowell@q-express.net. Just remember, you can not refute absolute or objective truth, so don’t believe a relativist. In other words, in issues such as morality and universal truths, whats true for me is true for everybody else. The world, no matter how much we’d like for it to, does not revolve around us. As a pastor who I personally interviewed when seeking this stuff out told me in regards to the Christian faith, “You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.” I studied 50 different religions, as well as Agnostic, Atheistic and Skeptical points of views. Not to mention, I studied Existentialism (the ones who don’t like labels put on them and believe virtually that nothing is objectively true). I interviewed Ophthamologists, Biologists, Evolutionists, Intelligent Design supporters, studied the Dover case thoroughly, looked at both sides honestly and based my criteria by who was telling the truth. The reason I chose Christianity, Intelligent Design, and Creationism is because to try to argue against their evidence, I found myself either committing silly logic or self-defeating logic to try to get around it. If you are honestly open to reviewing the evidence, there is no way around Christianity. I can assure you of that personally.

    God bless,
    Casey Powell

  7. Casey Powell says:

    Thanks for everybody’s understanding on the matter. I apologize for any misunderstanding. I am not an advocate of the FSM site, though I was quite astonished to see a message like that in my sent box for that account when I initially discovered it. I would certainly not go to an extreme like that. To Mr. Henderson, JesusMarine2005 is being terminated and I assure you we will not have this misunderstanding again. I would appreciate you giving credit to the heathen who actually posted the quote and not issuing the accusation to me however. Just call him, “The apostle Saucey of the FSM” or something like that.

    lol, God bless all,
    Casey Powell

  8. Chuck says:

    Ca: do believe you are a fucking retard and I hope you burn in hell. Fuck you and the flying spaghetti monster.

    Wow Casey or JesusMarine which equates to your level of Christian hostility and anger.

    Do you have any idea who your GODS are.

    Take a look at these religious paintings with held from your religions.

    http://www.ufoartwork.com/

    I am sick of people telling others about GOD and the fact none of you can even point him out then none of you practice what you preach but it does make a good laugh:):):):).

    All you Christians support murderers controlling nations with lies, who is going to hell, the anti-christ followers.

    If someone decsacrates history it’s the religious or the person that wrote the TJ(Talmud of Jmannuel) these are examples.

    C

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