Comments on: Only in a land of http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:27:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Alice http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-162463 Alice Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:10:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-162463 I must add something very late, but I must say, I am impressed by the 13 year old! Bravo, even now that you are 15 ;) I must add something very late, but I must say, I am impressed by the 13 year old!

Bravo, even now that you are 15 ;)

]]> By: Penne http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-19663 Penne Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:10:44 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-19663 this one is just too easy. this one is just too easy.

]]> By: jesus christ http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-19661 jesus christ Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:00:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-19661 the fact that god just created everything out of nowhere is a fairytale. way to be a hypocrite the fact that god just created everything out of nowhere is a fairytale. way to be a hypocrite

]]> By: nikkiee http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10541 nikkiee Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10541 How is that? Bold! How is that?
Bold!

]]> By: One Eyed Jack http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10539 One Eyed Jack Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:23 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10539 Bah! Guess this blog doesn't recognize html tags. Bah! Guess this blog doesn’t recognize html tags.

]]> By: One Eyed Jack http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10538 One Eyed Jack Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:02:07 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10538 Let's see if we can fix this boldface </B> How is that? Let’s see if we can fix this boldface How is that?

]]> By: nikkiee http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10537 nikkiee Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:55:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10537 Well yes OEJ I think you are blessed to be an aspiring theologian and not the prophet himself. Three oars and a dog would command a great deal of flexibility!! Well yes OEJ
I think you are blessed to be an aspiring theologian and not the prophet himself. Three oars and a dog would command a great deal of flexibility!!

]]> By: One Eyed Jack http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10529 One Eyed Jack Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:40:06 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10529 nikkiee, . One must be flexible like His Noodly Appendage. . RAmen. nikkiee,
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One must be flexible like His Noodly Appendage.
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RAmen.

]]> By: nikkiee http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10526 nikkiee Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:26:00 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10526 OEj You are a man of many talents! RAmen @ Davey Big bang = every time traveller in the entire history of the universe, all arriving at the same time, in the same place. Travellers at the End of Time? Micheal Moorcock (never did find out if Moorcock was his rel family name) Another eloquent Englishman. I think he be a pirate. OEj
You are a man of many talents!
RAmen
@ Davey
Big bang = every time traveller in the entire history of the universe, all arriving at the same time, in the same place.
Travellers at the End of Time? Micheal Moorcock (never did find out if Moorcock was his rel family name) Another eloquent Englishman. I think he be a pirate.

]]> By: Lamna http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10394 Lamna Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:15:30 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10394 Ouch paradoxs hurt, you should have been there when i tryed to kill my grandad. Of and if the second law means that life cant evolve it means that you cant build a car, or make a better computer, or evan learn anything. Ouch paradoxs hurt, you should have been there when i tryed to kill my grandad. Of and if the second law means that life cant evolve it means that you cant build a car, or make a better computer, or evan learn anything.

]]> By: Mike Meier http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10384 Mike Meier Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:25:01 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10384 @Enlightened Nice touch -- Godâ„¢ @Enlightened
Nice touch — Godâ„¢

]]> By: Uomo Felice Della Pasta http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10383 Uomo Felice Della Pasta Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:21:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10383 Actually, it can't be in the history of the universe. The past, present AND future of the universe. Actually, it can’t be in the history of the universe. The past, present AND future of the universe.

]]> By: Davey http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10381 Davey Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:17:21 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10381 Big bang = every time traveller in the entire history of the universe, all arriving at the same time, in the same place. . Moral: if you ever do happen to find yourself in possession of a fully functioning time machine, the thought "I wonder how far back this thing can go?" is NOT to be pursued. . Or perhaps it'd be better if you did. Ouch, I think I just paradoxed meself... Big bang = every time traveller in the entire history of the universe, all arriving at the same time, in the same place.
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Moral: if you ever do happen to find yourself in possession of a fully functioning time machine, the thought “I wonder how far back this thing can go?” is NOT to be pursued.
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Or perhaps it’d be better if you did. Ouch, I think I just paradoxed meself…

]]> By: Uomo Felice Della Pasta http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10379 Uomo Felice Della Pasta Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:09:11 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10379 There are theories about how there are conditions which provide all the resources for life, I chose to follow the many worlds theory. For every possibility, there is a universe in which it is a reality, so there are many universes in which life is possible. As for the big bang, something must have happened to create such a tremendous burst of energy. This may have been everything imploding upon itself, we can already see the energy from the big bang lessening, and instead of the universe expanding it will start to fall in upon itself until everything collides and another big bang occurs, and who knows how many times this cycle has repeated itself, or indeed how many times it will do so? There are theories about how there are conditions which provide all the resources for life, I chose to follow the many worlds theory. For every possibility, there is a universe in which it is a reality, so there are many universes in which life is possible. As for the big bang, something must have happened to create such a tremendous burst of energy. This may have been everything imploding upon itself, we can already see the energy from the big bang lessening, and instead of the universe expanding it will start to fall in upon itself until everything collides and another big bang occurs, and who knows how many times this cycle has repeated itself, or indeed how many times it will do so?

]]> By: Lamna http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10370 Lamna Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:59:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10370 What a idiot. Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. The big bang may not be right, maybe the universe existed forever. But there are lots of transition fossils. It cleaver what he did there he made it look like he is saying there is no part fish part bird fossil. But what he meant is that there is no fossil of a proto bird (there are loads) and no proto fish (loads again) If the fish and bird are not good enough how about whales plenty of transitionall forms and humans have many. Oh and you said DisneyR without a R .But if your stupid and have not researched our side of the debate and think that we believe there was a fish-bird, then you are a moron That will cost you aprox 12 million dollars. May the sauce be with you. What a idiot. Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. The big bang may not be right, maybe the universe existed forever. But there are lots of transition fossils. It cleaver what he did there he made it look like he is saying there is no part fish part bird fossil. But what he meant is that there is no fossil of a proto bird (there are loads) and no proto fish (loads again) If the fish and bird are not good enough how about whales plenty of transitionall forms and humans have many. Oh and you said DisneyR without a R .But if your stupid and have not researched our side of the debate and think that we believe there was a fish-bird, then you are a moron That will cost you aprox 12 million dollars. May the sauce be with you.

]]> By: Enlightened. http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10362 Enlightened. Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:49:35 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10362 Poooh... left off a tag and now my post makes no sense. /sigh ` Sorry, everyone! Poooh… left off a tag and now my post makes no sense. /sigh
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Sorry, everyone!

]]> By: Enlightened. http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10361 Enlightened. Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:49:00 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10361 <b>WARNING... LONG REBUTTAL FOLLOWING... THOSE FAMILIAR WITH MY POSTING STYLE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SKIP... THOSE WITH LUNCH BREAKS COMING UP SOON SHOULD SKIP AS WELL... THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND HAVE A PASTASTIC DAY...</b> @Cody: ` <b>Hi, there.</b> ` Hello! ` <b>I go to a public school in Kansas. Can’t we all just agree that none of the theories (yes, including God) really make 100% sense when it comes to the creation of the universe? Werefox and Alexa are completely right: if your argument is based on causality, then God, as well as Flying Spaghetti Monster, is out. I’m still hoping for evolution to find its theory of the beginning of the universe, because, honestly, the big bang doesn’t really do it for me, either.<b> ` Once again for the record. Evolution is not a creation theory. I therefore have to categorically reject your assertion that it is not 100% valid vis-a-vis origin theory. You cannot debunk it because it has no relation whatsoever to your argument. ` <b>And who says God didn’t create the world to begin with something small and make it evolve? If I were a god (and I know I’m not, so don’t try to point it out to me), I would enjoy starting little things and seeing where they went. What’s wrong with a little curiosity?</b> ` What makes you think Godâ„¢ thinks the way you do? He sorta probably has a much grander sense of scale and perspective. `<b> So, apparently, God wasn’t very creative, was He? We have fish, we have birds, we have mammals, we have reptiles, and we have bugs. Billions of different species, right? But only, what….. five classifications that most people can think of….. six, if you count humans as non-animals…..</b> ` You assume we know everything there is to know about our world. But if you want to toss this out, I would say it goes rather far to prove commonality between sub species; each classification started from a slightly differently evolved cell… yep, strongly supports evolution theory AND the law of genetics. ` <b>I’m a Christian; I believe in God. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God couldn’t speak in metaphore. Nowhere did it say that the prophets couldn’t, either.</b> ` Uhh… Christians say that. Non-Christians and certain sects of Christianity argue for a strong allegorical component, not to mention some downright fabrication on the parts of editors and some well-intended translation errors, but they are shot down repeatedly by Christians who insist on a literal interpretation. That is your religion’s boo-boo, not mine. Otherwise, a lot of people died at the stake for a metaphor, and that is unforgiveable. ` <b>I had a theory a couple years ago. It involved humankind evolving so far, that we invented time travel and had super-awesome powers and stuff… I realize that this theory has a lot of holes. But that’s ok; it’s just a theory. It’s not my thesis, and it’s certainly not my dissertation. It’s just an idea. You remember those, don’t you? They’re ok. They won’t bite.</b> ` Except… your use of the word theory… you keep saying that. I do not think it means what you think it means. ` Stick to calling it an idea and you will be fine. =) Otherwise, it’d have to submit to the same rigorous testing processes that scientific theories do—to ensure it was repeatable, generable under consistent conditions, uniform in output of empirical data, and unable to be disproven to date. Once your idea takes on those proportions, then you can call it a theory. ` So many gaps in education these days. But I appreciate your defense of your school system, even though it has not done as well for such a clearly intelligent, literate young person as yourself as it ought. Best of luck for the future. WARNING… LONG REBUTTAL FOLLOWING… THOSE FAMILIAR WITH MY POSTING STYLE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SKIP… THOSE WITH LUNCH BREAKS COMING UP SOON SHOULD SKIP AS WELL… THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND HAVE A PASTASTIC DAY…
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Hi, there.
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I go to a public school in Kansas. Can’t we all just agree that none of the theories (yes, including God) really make 100% sense when it comes to the creation of the universe?
Werefox and Alexa are completely right: if your argument is based on causality, then God, as well as Flying Spaghetti Monster, is out. I’m still hoping for evolution to find its theory of the beginning of the universe, because, honestly, the big bang doesn’t really do it for me, either.
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Once again for the record. Evolution is not a creation theory. I therefore have to categorically reject your assertion that it is not 100% valid vis-a-vis origin theory. You cannot debunk it because it has no relation whatsoever to your argument.
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And who says God didn’t create the world to begin with something small and make it evolve? If I were a god (and I know I’m not, so don’t try to point it out to me), I would enjoy starting little things and seeing where they went. What’s wrong with a little curiosity?
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What makes you think Godâ„¢ thinks the way you do? He sorta probably has a much grander sense of scale and perspective.
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So, apparently, God wasn’t very creative, was He? We have fish, we have birds, we have mammals, we have reptiles, and we have bugs. Billions of different species, right? But only, what….. five classifications that most people can think of….. six, if you count humans as non-animals…..
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You assume we know everything there is to know about our world. But if you want to toss this out, I would say it goes rather far to prove commonality between sub species; each classification started from a slightly differently evolved cell… yep, strongly supports evolution theory AND the law of genetics.
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I’m a Christian; I believe in God. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God couldn’t speak in metaphore. Nowhere did it say that the prophets couldn’t, either.
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Uhh… Christians say that. Non-Christians and certain sects of Christianity argue for a strong allegorical component, not to mention some downright fabrication on the parts of editors and some well-intended translation errors, but they are shot down repeatedly by Christians who insist on a literal interpretation. That is your religion’s boo-boo, not mine. Otherwise, a lot of people died at the stake for a metaphor, and that is unforgiveable.
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I had a theory a couple years ago. It involved humankind evolving so far, that we invented time travel and had super-awesome powers and stuff…
I realize that this theory has a lot of holes. But that’s ok; it’s just a theory. It’s not my thesis, and it’s certainly not my dissertation. It’s just an idea. You remember those, don’t you? They’re ok. They won’t bite.
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Except… your use of the word theory… you keep saying that. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Stick to calling it an idea and you will be fine. =) Otherwise, it’d have to submit to the same rigorous testing processes that scientific theories do—to ensure it was repeatable, generable under consistent conditions, uniform in output of empirical data, and unable to be disproven to date. Once your idea takes on those proportions, then you can call it a theory.
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So many gaps in education these days. But I appreciate your defense of your school system, even though it has not done as well for such a clearly intelligent, literate young person as yourself as it ought. Best of luck for the future.

]]> By: Darwin's Monkey http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10341 Darwin's Monkey Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:34:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10341 "There are NO transistionary fossils in the record (ie. half bird, half fish)." . LOL this guy is truely thick, you just can't make people like this understand can you, "How come we still have Apes if they evolved into humans? Apes are there to show how foolish you evolutionists are." . How many times do we have to tell you man did not evolve from Apes they both had a common ancestor. Do you actually know anything? If yuo will only read the Churches lies on evolution how can you expect to learn about how anazing evolution truely is. Please Please read R Dawkins The blind watchmaker and come back here after you have. “There are NO transistionary fossils in the record (ie. half bird, half fish).”
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LOL this guy is truely thick, you just can’t make people like this understand can you,

“How come we still have Apes if they evolved into humans? Apes are there to show how foolish you evolutionists are.”
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How many times do we have to tell you man did not evolve from Apes they both had a common ancestor. Do you actually know anything? If yuo will only read the Churches lies on evolution how can you expect to learn about how anazing evolution truely is. Please Please read R Dawkins The blind watchmaker and come back here after you have.

]]> By: Darwin's Monkey http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10337 Darwin's Monkey Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:26:32 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10337 "Only in a land of fairy tales and disney lands can people believe that “things” just poof “appear”." . Totally agree, one question how did God come about then? “Only in a land of fairy tales and disney lands can people believe that “things” just poof “appear”.”
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Totally agree, one question how did God come about then?

]]> By: One Eyed Jack http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10326 One Eyed Jack Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:37:04 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2005/08/20/only-in-a-land-of.htm#comment-10326 Just one quick point on the second law of thermodynamics. I love it when people use this argument. It proves how truly uneducated they are. . The second law of thermodynamics has been stated many ways, but in essence "The entropy of a closed system will increse over time." In other words, heat will tend to dissipate and chaos will tend to increase. The basic problem with this argument is that the Earth is not a closed system. Ample energy is constantly introduced to the Earth from the sun. Get it? . FYI, even Answers in Genesis, the world's most fucked up excuse for religion trying to masquerade as science, rejects the second law argument as crap. Incidently, they also reject your "ape-man" argument. You are seriously screwed if you can't even get AIG to agree with you. . Here's a dollar. Go buy a clue. . OEJ Just one quick point on the second law of thermodynamics. I love it when people use this argument. It proves how truly uneducated they are.
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The second law of thermodynamics has been stated many ways, but in essence “The entropy of a closed system will increse over time.” In other words, heat will tend to dissipate and chaos will tend to increase. The basic problem with this argument is that the Earth is not a closed system. Ample energy is constantly introduced to the Earth from the sun. Get it?
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FYI, even Answers in Genesis, the world’s most fucked up excuse for religion trying to masquerade as science, rejects the second law argument as crap. Incidently, they also reject your “ape-man” argument. You are seriously screwed if you can’t even get AIG to agree with you.
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Here’s a dollar. Go buy a clue.
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OEJ

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