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		<title>By: big guy 69</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-883979</link>
		<dc:creator>big guy 69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the balls are you guys all like really smart or somthing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the balls are you guys all like really smart or somthing?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to the comment, those of us whose refridgerators are powered by nuclear energy keep their food cool by faith. Noone man has ever seen uranium nuclei split with his own eyes, nor will they ever.&quot;
Well aside from masses of other evidence, scientists are able to photograph at atomic-scale levels of magnification these days, arent they? So we can, in essence, view uranium nuclei. 
Either way, I don&#039;t imagine we&#039;ll ever see the day when we capture photos at a Jesus-scale level of magnification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;According to the comment, those of us whose refridgerators are powered by nuclear energy keep their food cool by faith. Noone man has ever seen uranium nuclei split with his own eyes, nor will they ever.&#8221;<br />
Well aside from masses of other evidence, scientists are able to photograph at atomic-scale levels of magnification these days, arent they? So we can, in essence, view uranium nuclei.<br />
Either way, I don&#8217;t imagine we&#8217;ll ever see the day when we capture photos at a Jesus-scale level of magnification.</p>
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		<title>By: Apprentice Frederic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apprentice Frederic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The late, great W.C. Fields said it best:  &quot;Every man must believe in something; I believe I&#039;ll have another drink.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The late, great W.C. Fields said it best:  &#8220;Every man must believe in something; I believe I&#8217;ll have another drink.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Garrick McElroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrick McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH NO! NOT THE POWER OF CHRIST!
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I&#039;m gonna sing a song while I wait, is that okay?
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Nothing yet, starting to get hungry.
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Nope.
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I&#039;m gonna take a nap. Be back in a bit.
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Finished napping. Nothing yet. Is he on vacation or something?
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Tired of waiting. Good bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH NO! NOT THE POWER OF CHRIST!<br />
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I&#8217;m gonna sing a song while I wait, is that okay?<br />
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Nothing yet, starting to get hungry.<br />
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Nope.<br />
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I&#8217;m gonna take a nap. Be back in a bit.<br />
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Finished napping. Nothing yet. Is he on vacation or something?<br />
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Tired of waiting. Good bye.</p>
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		<title>By: FSMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>FSMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everything has a maker as you clearly state in the first sentence, then who created the christian god?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everything has a maker as you clearly state in the first sentence, then who created the christian god?</p>
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		<title>By: Commodore Angryy</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-221147</link>
		<dc:creator>Commodore Angryy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alchemist
&quot;Commodore Angryy
“…when this theory comes up fundies say “that explosion is god”.”

ripped from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
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“If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu’s view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, “How about the tortoise?” the Indian said, “Suppose we change the subject.”&quot; Bertrand Russell, 1927 “Why I am not a Christian”&quot;

Ok, what the hell first of all. If i were to quote wikipedia, i wouldn&#039;t be bothered changing the wording around, i&#039;m lazy, and you know it. Second, i actually learn shit in religion class and don&#039;t need wikipedia to provide me with ammunition against fundies. 3rd, if i were looking for stuff about god, why would i type turtles into search? Your entire theory on this is flawed, and i&#039;m personally shocked that you think that i need shit like wikipedia to make me an intellectual. What a dick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alchemist<br />
&#8220;Commodore Angryy<br />
“…when this theory comes up fundies say “that explosion is god”.”</p>
<p>ripped from wikipedia:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down</a><br />
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“If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu’s view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, “How about the tortoise?” the Indian said, “Suppose we change the subject.”&#8221; Bertrand Russell, 1927 “Why I am not a Christian”&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, what the hell first of all. If i were to quote wikipedia, i wouldn&#8217;t be bothered changing the wording around, i&#8217;m lazy, and you know it. Second, i actually learn shit in religion class and don&#8217;t need wikipedia to provide me with ammunition against fundies. 3rd, if i were looking for stuff about god, why would i type turtles into search? Your entire theory on this is flawed, and i&#8217;m personally shocked that you think that i need shit like wikipedia to make me an intellectual. What a dick.</p>
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		<title>By: Red DutchPasta Wench</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-174190</link>
		<dc:creator>Red DutchPasta Wench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think so Booty, rust makes for less enjoyable pastasauce :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think so Booty, rust makes for less enjoyable pastasauce :(</p>
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		<title>By: Booty</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-174169</link>
		<dc:creator>Booty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alchemist - Mine is from Wilkos :)
It is getting a bit rusty round the edges,do you think I need to upgrade too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alchemist &#8211; Mine is from Wilkos :)<br />
It is getting a bit rusty round the edges,do you think I need to upgrade too?</p>
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		<title>By: Commodore Angryy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commodore Angryy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dutchy
the heat and light from the explosion of the BB could have been a catalyst for the entire universe to simply start existing at the speed of light. the normal rules of phsics don&#039;t exist in a black hole, ad certainly not in the beginning, if indeed there was one. and before you say anything, ask yourself... were you there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dutchy<br />
the heat and light from the explosion of the BB could have been a catalyst for the entire universe to simply start existing at the speed of light. the normal rules of phsics don&#8217;t exist in a black hole, ad certainly not in the beginning, if indeed there was one. and before you say anything, ask yourself&#8230; were you there?</p>
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		<title>By: DutchPastaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DutchPastaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAmen Iron Bess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAmen Iron Bess</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Bess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iron Bess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days we are lucky that the fundies are not in power (yet), if they were, there would be a lot of toasted people around.  The fundies have a tendency to get hostile if people do not buy into their particular fairy tale which they are so enamoured with.  Which, IMO, shows that they are afraid of exposing their faith (beliefs) to any kind of scrutiny for fear of all the enormous black holes which would show up in them.  
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I too am completely unapologetic and loud in my response to silly ideas.  But I am also cognizant of the fact that I am able to do that without fear for my very life.  Religion is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous and has shown itself over and over to be a menace to society and to mankind.  Richard Dawkins, is correct when he says that it should not be acceptable to raise children as muslims, or catholics or hindus.  Children should be protected against the evil influences of religion, not encouraged to accept it with blind faith.  
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Once that happens what else could they blindly follow?  White Supremacy?  Book Burning?  Eminem?  Barney?  Burning Witches? etc, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days we are lucky that the fundies are not in power (yet), if they were, there would be a lot of toasted people around.  The fundies have a tendency to get hostile if people do not buy into their particular fairy tale which they are so enamoured with.  Which, IMO, shows that they are afraid of exposing their faith (beliefs) to any kind of scrutiny for fear of all the enormous black holes which would show up in them.<br />
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I too am completely unapologetic and loud in my response to silly ideas.  But I am also cognizant of the fact that I am able to do that without fear for my very life.  Religion is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous and has shown itself over and over to be a menace to society and to mankind.  Richard Dawkins, is correct when he says that it should not be acceptable to raise children as muslims, or catholics or hindus.  Children should be protected against the evil influences of religion, not encouraged to accept it with blind faith.<br />
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Once that happens what else could they blindly follow?  White Supremacy?  Book Burning?  Eminem?  Barney?  Burning Witches? etc, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: DutchPastaGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173824</link>
		<dc:creator>DutchPastaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thalassophobic Pie Rat
&quot;I’ve never studied much physics so no-one shout at me&quot;
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Don&#039;t worry TPR, we don&#039;t shout at people because of their lack of knowledge concerning physics. When christians distort things, quote mine etc because science blows away their fairy tale beliefs and they therefore want to wish away or discredit scientific knowledge and promote ignorance (in which faith can thrive so well) then we do shout at them. At least I do. Loudly and unapolagetically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thalassophobic Pie Rat<br />
&#8220;I’ve never studied much physics so no-one shout at me&#8221;<br />
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Don&#8217;t worry TPR, we don&#8217;t shout at people because of their lack of knowledge concerning physics. When christians distort things, quote mine etc because science blows away their fairy tale beliefs and they therefore want to wish away or discredit scientific knowledge and promote ignorance (in which faith can thrive so well) then we do shout at them. At least I do. Loudly and unapolagetically.</p>
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		<title>By: Alchemist</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173817</link>
		<dc:creator>Alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;@Alchemist - sorry! Forgot about that - got overconfident with my sieve on :D&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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Are you still using the &quot;Prestige, 1mm&quot;? I&#039;ve been thinking about moving to Le Creuset - expensive I know but the witches seem to swear by the make!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;@Alchemist &#8211; sorry! Forgot about that &#8211; got overconfident with my sieve on :D&#8221;</i><br />
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Are you still using the &#8220;Prestige, 1mm&#8221;? I&#8217;ve been thinking about moving to Le Creuset &#8211; expensive I know but the witches seem to swear by the make!</p>
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		<title>By: Booty</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173797</link>
		<dc:creator>Booty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TPR - A black hole in the FSM&#039;s baby blanket, obviously! Duh! ;)
@Alchemist - sorry! Forgot about that - got overconfident with my sieve on :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TPR &#8211; A black hole in the FSM&#8217;s baby blanket, obviously! Duh! ;)<br />
@Alchemist &#8211; sorry! Forgot about that &#8211; got overconfident with my sieve on :D</p>
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		<title>By: Thalassophobic Pie Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173789</link>
		<dc:creator>Thalassophobic Pie Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote] Commodore Angryy

&quot;the BB theory states that the universe wasn’t there to begin with. all that was there was a singualrity, a black hole that contained all the mass of the universe.&quot; [/quote]

I&#039;ve never studied much physics so no-one shout at me; I can understand that it’s possible that everything we know as the universe came from this black hole, but a black hole in what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote] Commodore Angryy</p>
<p>&#8220;the BB theory states that the universe wasn’t there to begin with. all that was there was a singualrity, a black hole that contained all the mass of the universe.&#8221; [/quote]</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never studied much physics so no-one shout at me; I can understand that it’s possible that everything we know as the universe came from this black hole, but a black hole in what?</p>
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		<title>By: Alchemist</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173782</link>
		<dc:creator>Alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Great A’Tuin is swimming through space, silly!&quot;
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Shhhh Booty :) We know that but some of these anthropomorphic personifier&#039;s are still in the dark! 
The Turtle Moves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Great A’Tuin is swimming through space, silly!&#8221;<br />
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Shhhh Booty :) We know that but some of these anthropomorphic personifier&#8217;s are still in the dark!<br />
The Turtle Moves!</p>
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		<title>By: Booty</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173766</link>
		<dc:creator>Booty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great A&#039;Tuin is swimming through space, silly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great A&#8217;Tuin is swimming through space, silly!</p>
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		<title>By: Alchemist</title>
		<link>http://www.venganza.org/2005/07/28/bobby-you-already-have-faith/#comment-173757</link>
		<dc:creator>Alchemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commodore Angryy
&lt;i&gt;&quot;...when this theory comes up fundies say “that explosion is god”.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

ripped from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu&#039;s view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, &quot;How about the tortoise?&quot; the Indian said, &quot;Suppose we change the subject.&quot;&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Bertrand Russell, 1927 &quot;Why I am not a Christian&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commodore Angryy<br />
<i>&#8220;&#8230;when this theory comes up fundies say “that explosion is god”.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>ripped from wikipedia:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down</a><br />
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<i>&#8220;If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu&#8217;s view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, &#8220;How about the tortoise?&#8221; the Indian said, &#8220;Suppose we change the subject.&#8221;"</i> Bertrand Russell, 1927 &#8220;Why I am not a Christian&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DutchPastaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>DutchPastaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But both fission and fusion require at least protons and neutrons to be stable, as well as at the very least the element helium. With your reply you still require them to be so before the BB. Postulating that stable protons, neutrons and even He were around before the BB contradicts a good deal of the rest of BB theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But both fission and fusion require at least protons and neutrons to be stable, as well as at the very least the element helium. With your reply you still require them to be so before the BB. Postulating that stable protons, neutrons and even He were around before the BB contradicts a good deal of the rest of BB theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Commodore Angryy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commodore Angryy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the BB theory states that the universe wasn&#039;t there to begin with. all that was there was a singualrity, a black hole that contained all the mass of the universe. for some reason, it became unstable and exploded. and a nuclear explosion involves fission, and then fusion again. so this theory is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the BB theory states that the universe wasn&#8217;t there to begin with. all that was there was a singualrity, a black hole that contained all the mass of the universe. for some reason, it became unstable and exploded. and a nuclear explosion involves fission, and then fusion again. so this theory is possible.</p>
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